BROADHEADS - MONTEC, NAP ETC.

[gon4elk]

LAST EDITED ON May-01-05 AT 12:26PM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON May-01-05 AT 12:23?PM (MST)

If this has been addressed before - sorry. Spent some time in the sporting goods store yesterday looking at the different, I'll call them "small type" broadheads(Montec,NAP's Crossfire and Nitron,Wasp's BOSS Etc.). I like the idea of the Montec One-piece construction and I'm sure these all are very accurate. The thing that concerns me is are they big enough to do the job on Elk sized game? I've read articles that say sure, but I'm still sceptical - awfully small. Like the old saying goes "Opinions are like As@#!##*, everybody has one." Well I'd like to here yours if you've used these "small" heads on Elk or bigger. I'm trying to decide if I want to "risk" it this fall on Elk.

Let me clarify something. I'm sure all broadheads could kill an elk if hit in the right place. What I mean by get the "job" done is, Elk have a thick hide and a lot of hair, just like a sponge for soaking up blood. I wonder if the small heads can make a wound big enough to keep a good blood trail going ? Too many times we here of guys losing animals because the trail dried up. It's happened to me and it's a frustrating, sick feeling.

 

[BOHNTR]

In short.....Plenty big enough! Those style heads, along with Muzzy's, innerloc, and Wac'ems have put down big game consistently. I know it's been said before, but put them where they're suppose to be and no problems.....that's with ANY style head. Have fun and good luck.

BOHNTR )))---------->

 

[quickdrawkinker]

In my opinion the best broadhead in that category would be the Slick Trick, if you haven't looked at these you might want to. Go to www.slicktrick.net and check these out. They are the same smaller head design, but they are a 4-blade and built extremly well and group with field points. Do a search on broadhead testing by 5 shot and you will see that these heads performed better than most any other broadhead period. It even out penetrated the cut-on-contact style heads in both the steel drum and the tire.

 

[Kirby]

Definatly big enought to do the job.
Have no hesitation on worring about that.

Kirby

 

[Drake]

I shot the cossfire's last year and took 2 4 point bucks and a 3 point bull elk with them, 1st buck was a 60 yrd shot right through his heart and broke the far shoulder, the 2nd buck was frontal shot and the arrow come out his hind quarter, the bull was 54 yrd shot, 1st arrow took him right through the lungs and stuck into a tree next to him, the bull did a 1 eighty and started sniffing my arrow the next arrow took him through the heart he side steped about 5 feet away from the tree and looked at the tree till he fell over dead. they shoot identical to my field tips out 2 80 yrds.. i cannot say enough about this head and the replacment cartridge is so slick...I found the head i will shoot for a very long time.

 

[bowhuntwa]

Its a tough decision to choose which broadhead to shoot because there are so many out there. My personal opinion that is that perfect arrow flight is a must (every shot!!!) Arrow flight is more important than a larger size hole, besides the difference between the really small broadheads and normal size is usually no more than 1/4". I did not do well in college physics so I dont know if a larger blade is better for a bigger hole or is bigger better for catching more air and throwing the arrow off course???
The Monotecs are strong but when shot they make a whistleing noise. I have shot thunderhead 100's and I had a problem with 1 out of 5 being off a few inches. I dont know why, I weigh each arrow, knock, insert and fletch.
The archery shop I shoot at tested several different brands and styles. The conclusion was that the Boss Bullet, WacEm's and sonic shot the best with many different shooters testing. Sonics were strong and very accurate, they cost around $40-$45 per 6, but its worth it when an entire hunt comes down to one shot. Who wants to buy 5-10 different brands of broadheads to test them, i dont have an extra $200 to spend on testing. Maybe a magazine will do a test and let us know.

Well thats my 2 cents. Good topic, by the way I shoot Boss Bullets

 

[five_point_buck]

HERE IS A LINK TO A COMPARISON TEST....

http://www.american-hunter.com/broadheads/broadhead_test.htm


five_point_buck
aka Larry Pasero Jr.

 

[ddy58]

I shoot montecs and ive never had a problem with them making noise.

 

[elkbow28]

plenty big enough to do job, but had bad experience. I was guiding Sid Breem (Atlanta Braves) in colorado last year. I called in abull and he shot it at 20 yds.. The elk was broadside, not quartering away, looked as if shot placement was right on the money, lower 2/3 2-4 inches behind shoulder. After waiting for 1- 1 1/2 we started tracking (8:00) at (1:00) after numerous hours of spotty blood and leaf turning on hands and knees, we resorted to walking in planned circle patterns. The bull was headed towards a water hole they frequented.I headed there and started circling. Found the bull tucked up under (in) a cedar pinon tree within 100 yds from water. I walked past hin 50 yds away not making like I had found him, as he kept his eye on me. After finding sid, we decided to take the same path as i did before, gave him instructions on where he was , and what tree he was under, and stay right behind me not looking or making eye contact at the bull, he was to draw his bow when I told him to, while walking then he would turn when I stopped and I would give him yardage to bedded bull. worked like a charm. bull was broadside if not slightly quartering away. After arrow impact the bull jumped up and headed across open mesa hurdled range fence and dissapeard into brush800 yds away.(have all this on video) gave him some time and tracked again it looked like the same type blood trail as before. After about 3/4 mile we found the bull piled up...FINALLY!!! aFTER INSPECTING SHOT PLACEMENT YOU COULD NOT HAVE WALKED UP AND STUCK ARROWS INTO THE BULL ANY BETTER, enterance holes 1 1/2 apart in perfect spot as prev. stated, but exit holes werejust in front of hind quarter???? After visually inspecting lungs we found 1 blade had clipped backside of 1 lung, and second arrow got backside of same lung with whole head. As we scratched our heads Corey(another guide) and I came to the conclusion that beacause the montec G-5 heads are so durable and made with herdened steel there is no flex or give in blades the shots must have glanced off of a rib deterring the arrows original pat. Both the third and fourth ribs had single blade slice in the rear side... We were able to recover this animal because of persistence knowledge of area, and many years of tracking experience,
They are the only other head that I have gotten 12 of 12 to spin check out of box besides NAP thunderhead 100 gr. I personally have harvested 28 elk and mule deer with these heads. I have never hit one and not killed it...knock on wood. Practice helps also..
I would like your input on this. Maybe someone else had same experience or explanation.. AND NO I GUARENTEE THEY WERE NOT QUARTERING TOWARDS SHOTS....