Best late season rifle elk tag?

[PLK]

NR with a bunch of points (25) that is tired of waiting for an early season rifle tag. Unit and outfitter recommendations appreciated.

 

[Wapitiwilly]

Take a look at 3A/3C early. There are a couple of great outfitters in those units.

 

[WapitiBob]

Buy a bow, call steve Chappel.

 

[PLK]

Take a look at 3A/3C early. There are a couple of great outfitters in those units.

I likely don‘t have enough points to draw 3A/3C early. Only 2 nonresident tags.

 

[Skykarp]

NR with a bunch of points (25) that is tired of waiting for an early season rifle tag. Unit and outfitter recommendations appreciated.

There are only 140 people either with you in your point group or ahead of you. Gambling them on a late hunt seems like a a rushed or emotionally driven move. Unless health or age are an issue I would stay the course. If your dead set on hunting , pick up a bow or smoke stick and take your pick of units.

There is a 4B and 8 hunt with early rifle tags this year that you would have decent odds at. If you chose to not do those hunts do to trophy class why are you willing to gamble them on a late rifle hunt?

Just my 2 cents I’m not far behind you at 20 points and with the new added point creep it’s going to make it more interesting.

Good luck it’s anxiety season for anyone with a boat load of points.

 

[JDECK]

There's also early muzzleloader that you can draw with your points.

 

[Mudslinger]

I would shoot for 27 or 1 if I were you. I would hate to wait that long and go with a late season hunt. 1 would be muzzleloader.

 

[AZ8]

Man, that’s a ton of points to throw your hands up in defeat.

Hope you find a way!

 

[AZGuy]

Terrible idea, absolutely terrible!

 

[flycrewsupe]

I'm in with 26 NR points. I'm in for the long haul. Early rifle or bust.

 

[AZGuy]

I would shoot for 27 or 1 if I were you. I would hate to wait that long and go with a late season hunt. 1 would be muzzleloader.

You nailed it! Unit 1 muzzleloader is 100% with 24 points. The dates are perfect. That hunt would be a blast.

 

[PLK]

You nailed it! Unit 1 muzzleloader is 100% with 24 points. The dates are perfect. That hunt would be a blast.

Wasn’t unit 1 an early rifle hunt in 2021? How did you determine that it will be 100% with 24 points?

 

[Blank]

I had a friend in your situation a couple years ago, and I had him call Steve Chappell. They hunted Unit 9 muzzleloader and got a nice 380 bull for the TV show. He had a great time.

 

[AZGuy]

Wasn’t unit 1 an early rifle hunt in 2021? How did you determine that it will be 100% with 24 points?

I was going off GoHunt. 27early rifle would be 100% too.

 

[PLK]

I was going off GoHunt. 27early rifle would be 100% too.

Thanks. Epic Outdoors says 25+ for unit 1 early muzzleloader and 24+ for unit 27 early rifle. I guess there is a chance. I’ve been looking at the point totals and it doesn’t seem like many of the top point holders are drawing tags.

 

[AZGuy]

Interesting

 

[Plumber333]

Unit 23 Late Rifle with Mogollon Rim Outfitters - Greg Krogh! Him and his guides have this unit dialed in and his hunters take great bulls every year. I took this bull with them this past season in 2021.

 

[PLK]

Unit 23 Late Rifle with Mogollon Rim Outfitters - Greg Krogh! Him and his guides have this unit dialed in and his hunters take great bulls every year. I took this bull with them this past season in 2021.

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He’s on my short list. Called him about a week or so ago and left a message. Perhaps he is still hunting or at one of the Sheep Shows etc.

 

[oilcan]

He’s on my short list. Called him about a week or so ago and left a message. Perhaps he is still hunting or at one of the Sheep Shows etc.

Probably still down in Mexico hunting Muledeer . I’ve hunting with him twice great bunch of guys and they really do a great job of pre-scouting.

 

[PCPython]

PM Sent

 

[money]

how big of a bull are you hoping to kill? Also is archery an option? Arizona Archery seasons are great tags and elk in arizona are very killable with a bow. especially if you hire an outfitter. you have enough points to draw the best archery tags arizona has to offer. The potential of a giant bull is high on those hunts. Burnt Timber Outfitters or Koury Guide Service in 3a/3c can and will but you on some great bulls if you drew that archery tag.

If archery isn't an option you close to drawing early rifle in 3a/3c or you could do 27 early rifle. definitely some good options for you though.

 

[huntazido]

I wonder when that one nonresident with 32 points is going to finally apply for a hunt?

 

[oilcan]

I wonder when that one nonresident with 32 points is going to finally apply for a hunt?

He’s waiting for the right moon phase.

 

[AZGuy]

He’s waiting for the right moon phase.

I heard it was 42 year old guy and it’s his retirement strategy. He will sell his points to someone and do point guard, then he’ll do it again the next year.

 

[msolocam]

Pm sent

 

[jvgunner]

I'm in with 26 NR points. I'm in for the long haul. Early rifle or bust.

I am so far behind with 20 that I about to do the same!

 

[Deer]

Unit 23 Late Rifle with Mogollon Rim Outfitters - Greg Krogh! Him and his guides have this unit dialed in and his hunters take great bulls every year. I took this bull with them this past season in 2021.

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Wow what a jumbo.

 

[Deer]

You should split with someone if you are going 23 late. I would be willing with 15 lol. Im just pipe dreaming looking forward to hearing how you do.

 

[yotebuster17]

23 late with AZ ground pounders or Greg Krogh will put you on about as big of a bull as you’ll kill anywhere else. Hard not to want an early rut hunt with those points though. I wouldn’t burn them on any other late hunt then 23 though. The rest aren’t even in the same zip code of quality as 23 is.
Also if you do burn them you could piggy back someone up to a tag easily. That’d pay for half your guide fee ??

 

[brushcreek]

You should split with someone if you are going 23 late. I would be willing with 15 lol. Im just pipe dreaming looking forward to hearing how you do.

Looks like Unit 23 late rifle took 21 pts to guarantee a tag in 2021 (non res)

 

[Wiszard]

So, only my second year of putting in for elk in AZ and I am 50. Am I completely wasting money? Can I draw a tag before I am 65?

 

[oilcan]

So, only my second year of putting in for elk in AZ and I am 50. Am I completely wasting money? Can I draw a tag before I am 65?

Absolutely you can draw a tag.

 

[OutdoorWriter]

So, only my second year of putting in for elk in AZ and I am 50. Am I completely wasting money? Can I draw a tag before I am 65?

Yup. Just depends on how flexible you are. Plenty of hunts with decent chances. If you insist on a premium hunt, you could be waiting a long time, however. But even at that, there's always a remote chance to draw most every hunt in AZ, even for a NR.

 

[AZ8]

So, only my second year of putting in for elk in AZ and I am 50. Am I completely wasting money? Can I draw a tag before I am 65?

Yup. The late hunts favor you as a NR. If you want a Sept tag, well, you might hit 65 before…haha

But, ya never know! Might as well try. Get busy living or get busy dying! Right?

Good luck!

 

[Joe2Kool]

So, only my second year of putting in for elk in AZ and I am 50. Am I completely wasting money? Can I draw a tag before I am 65?

Without looking at all the draw reports, there are definitely tags you can draw within a few years.

In the AZ draw, half (5% of the total) of the NR tags go to the highest point total in the Bonus Round. The other half go In the next round (1-2 pass), anyone can draw. Granted more points increases odds, but last year, a NR with 2 points drew 1/2b/2c, which is usually a 20 ish point tag.

 

[turkeyneck]

Will 26 points draw the early rifle in 3a/3c this year?

 

[brushcreek]

Will 26 points draw the early rifle in 3a/3c this year?

26 got it done on 3a last year, but there was only 1 tag in the bonus pass. It depends on what other 26 and above point holders decide apply for

 

[Plumber333]

Looks like Unit 23 late rifle took 21 pts to guarantee a tag in 2021 (non res)

@Wiszard I drew the 23 Late Bull tag last year (2021) in the random draw with 8 NR points if that gives you any hope!

 

[Buzzy]

@Wiszard I drew the 23 Late Bull tag last year (2021) in the random draw with 8 NR points if that gives you any hope!

And how did you do? And let’s see some pic’s!!

 

[idahomuleyhunter]

Rent an apartment in Kingman and put in as a resident.

 

[Plumber333]

And how did you do? And let’s see some pic’s!!

Hey @Buzzy just scroll up in this post... I already posted a picture of the bull I took.

 

[Buzzy]

Hey @Buzzy just scroll up in this post... I already posted a picture of the bull I took.

Uggggg, not paying attention. Thanks and awesome bull. I have 16 points and have considered putting in for this late hunt. With bulls like that it makes it a little easier to roll the dice and see what happens. apologize if I missed but how many points did you have when you drew the tag?

 

[PLK]

Uggggg, not paying attention. Thanks and awesome bull. I have 16 points and have considered putting in for this late hunt. With bulls like that it makes it a little easier to roll the dice and see what happens. apologize if I missed but how many points did you have when you drew the tag?

Buzzy,
He mentioned that in his earlier post as well. He drew with 8 points.

 

[Deer]

Buzzy,
He mentioned that in his earlier post as well. He drew with 8 points.

Looking forward to hearing what you do.

 

[Buzzy]

Looking forward to hearing what you do.

Well I swung for the fences with 3a/c early rifle as my 1st choice and 23 north archery as my 2nd. Somebody has to win that 3a/c tag ?

 

[3darcher2]

Well I swung for the fences with 3a/c early rifle as my 1st choice and 23 north archery as my 2nd. Somebody has to win that 3a/c tag ?

I pulled the 12AW Early Rifle Deer last fall with 1 point. You're right, someone has gotta get it. Can't get it if you don't try! It's pretty cool when it happens.

 

[Joe2Kool]

I pulled the 12AW Early Rifle Deer last fall with 1 point. You're right, someone has gotta get it. Can't get it if you don't try! It's pretty cool when it happens.

Deer hunter's version of hitting the lottery. big time!!

 

[3darcher2]

Deer hunter's version of hitting the lottery. big time!!

Yeah, and I did mean to mention, that was as a NR.

 

[AZBuckSnort]

Did you tag a buck on that early hunt?

 

[3darcher2]

Did you tag a buck on that early hunt?

I did, first ever muley. I have a post under the Early Kaibab thread if you want to read a little more, don't want to derail this thread. Point was it was a great time and if I hadn't put in, I'd have never pulled it.

 

[208LOGAN]

Well you swung for the fences... and?

 

[HntHrdr]

I’d look at Vaquero Outfitters with Corey they kill a decent pile of monsters every year!