I've shot two elk the first about 7 yards away and slowly walking by. The shot looked a little high but a pass through. Not much if any blood trail, but follow her tracks and found her 50 yards away, double lung. Second 25 yards broadside. She saw me draw back and stopped to look at what I was. Again I thought it was a little high and slightly forward. Again it was a double lung, but this time a good blood trail 60 yards is all she went. Both elk were shot from the same spot two years in a row. Cant wait until next year.