AZ Bull Elk

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I'm pretty jacked up. I drew 7w. I've never been north of Williams or Flag. I've got the maps, and I'm leaving Thursday for my first scouting trip. If I hunt hard and smart, what should I hold out for? 340? I've heard that the tops are weak this year. Would that be true for 7west as well?
 
First off, Congrats on a great tag. The 7s' were my choice for a few years.
Anyhow, don't ask what you should hold out for, thats crazy! Have you already killed a 300+ bull? I think if you like the bull that comes in if you can even get in on one , then shoot it with no regrets. I you are prepared to go home with either a 340 bull or nothing , than I commend you as you have more hold out than most. My dad killed a 6x7 in unit 16B in the Gila here in NM and the bull ended up scoring 328. When he shot the bull I figured the bull would score around 345 or so and when other hunters saw him they also agreed he was 340-345. Not so , 328 is all the tape would stretch. Still a great bull with a bow and on the way out when we stopped to pick up the meat from the cooler in Winston there was another 6x6 bull that scored 344 that didn't look a whole lot more than my dad's ,wasn't even as heavy. 340 is big , but how much regret will a guy have if passing on a 330 class bull to never see another bull in shooting range.The question should be , what will make you happy???
 
LAST EDITED ON Aug-14-07 AT 08:18PM (MST)[p]Most, if not all, of the roads up Sitgreaves Mnt have been closed. It's one of the better places to get away from the crowds. The rest of the unit is covered in roads, which isn't all bad, as it spreads the pressure out fairly evenly.
 
Thanks. It looks like most of the elk would be in the southern half of the unit. I'm wondering if the northern half holds elk but gets less pressure.
 
In the very northern 1/3 of the unit, near Valle, there are no elk, at least not in the daytime. When you get there, you will see why. It's flatter than a truckers ass, with ankle high grass. Antelope country.

Just south of there, where the flat prairie starts to rise and the cedars start to get thick, the elk hunting starts.

IMO, the cedar country bulls get a little less pressure, but you will have a hard time finding anyplace without a road in the entire unit. It's not a backpackers or wilderness hunt, but there are a buttload of elk. When they are really bugling, your head will be spinning trying to figure out which one sounds like the biggest. When they are not, it's best to get up high and hunt them like deer, with optics and spot and stalk or in a blind at water or a trail from feed to bed.

They give alot of bull rifle tags in the unit, but it's a meat hunt. Most all of the rifle tag holders tag small, immature bulls that are running with the big herds in winter. The big ones are loners that hold up in nasty P/J thickets and steep north slopes. There are no canyons to speak of, but there are a few big hills and numerous smaller cones. You don't have to be a marathoner to hunt this unit.

The rifle hunt is 80% road hunters, another 10% never get more than 1/4 mile from the truck, and 10% (mostly local) have their bull picked out and kill him opening morning. That leaves the smart ones to grow old.

The big ones in 7W are taken during the archery season. There can be bugle shy, so sharpen up your cow calling and call sparingly.

EVERY water tank has a road leading to it. How do you think they got the dozer in there to dig it? It's cattle country, with ranch roads, powerline roads, gas line roads, two tracks, paved roads, gravel roads, etc, etc, etc. There is some posted land, but very little.

All of AZ for that matter, except for a few rugged spots and the wilderness areas, is roaded.

I'm sure someone else can chime in, but that is my experience with the unit.
 
El Toro:

Thanks for the info.

Just got back from four days of scouting. Saw hundreds of elk cow/calves, both in the cedars and the pines. All over the unit. Only saw a few raghorn bulls. This was more of a family vacation with scouting mixed in. I did not get out and hike more than an hour or so. I just drove dirt roads with the family during mornings and evenings.

I'm going back for another four days of scouting in two weeks. I'll scout all day and try to find the big bulls.

Thanks again.
 

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