Are you satisfied?

Zigga

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Seeing as how OBL has not been caught after 6+ years are you all satisfied with Bush just saying that OBL is basically no longer a threat? I guess it made for good discussion for the last re-election.


Does anybody else feel duped?
 
I think we all should be very afraid of OBL! Just 'cause dumb-dumb couldn't capture or kill him in 8 years doesn't mean that he's not the most evil plick on the planet!

RUS
 
Zigga;

Bush is only doing what any politician will do.I am not aware of any politician that has not done this to one extent or another when they felt, or was advised to do so to save face.
As for being satisfied, HECK NO! I am not satisfied. I want that murderer dead for his crimes and hopefully shot with a bullet dipped in pigs blood. He is a threat even if it is only symbolic to his followers.
We all know if he gets caught or killed next week, the headlines will read "The greatest threat to U.S. is in custody or dead". Just the way our politicians do business. This might become what Bush is remember for just like slick willie being remember for "It wasn't sex".

RELH
 
I understand well where Bush is coming from. I hunted 10 days on the late Kaibab and didn't kill a real nice buck, so my theory is who cares? it doesn't matter.

Who thinks Bush or I either one are being honest?
 
I think way to much impotance is given to whether or not we've found OBL.
If we had free range in Pakistan or Seria, he wouldn't last 10 minutes.
Anyway, kill him 'an some other twisted chiken$hit will take his place.
I think it was WAY more imortant we ground-sluced Sudom 'an his kiddies.
 
So the removal of the two bit dictator of a trade sanctioned, isolated and occupied by UN weapons inspectors country was more important than the leader of the 9/11 bombers?

You get the Bushie of the month prize. a pair of Bush underwear and a years supply of Kool Aid.
 
LAST EDITED ON Jan-03-08 AT 01:04AM (MST)[p]Love him or hate him there has not been another major attack on U.S. soil and I don't think it was from any change of OBL's heart.
 
What RELH said.
No I do not feel duped.
Alquida has been decimated
Afganastan and Iraq have been liberated and are on their way to freedom, we have established for the first time in history a strong hold in the middle east, a presence, intel gathering magnet like we have never had before 911.
You got Achmagetajob, Bashar al-Assad pissing bb's cause they just saw how easy the USA took the power away from the Taliban and Sadam. They want no part of that bad Boy Bush.
Now if this country elects a pussDem this year watch for an up tick of terrorism like no other. They will be embolden. The American public will be seen as SOFT.


?Justice consists not in being neutral between right and wrong, but in finding out the right and upholding it, wherever found, against the wrong.?
---Theodore Roosevelt,
 
202!!!

"WE'VE ESTABLISHED A PRESENCE"!!!

NO I'M NOT VOTING DEM!!!

BUT HAVE ESTABLISHED A PRESENCE???

OR MADE A PRESENCE???

LIKE IT OR NOT!!!

LITTLE George HAS DONE A PISS POOR JOB!!!

COST US BILLIONS UPON BILLIONS MAYBE INTO THE TRILLIONS BY NOW???

YOU THINK THEM MUSLIMS REALLY WANT US THERE???

BIN LADDEN STILL PLANNING ATTACKS & A MILLION FOLLOWERS TO TAKE HIS PLACE THE MINUTE WE GET HIM,IF WE EVER GET HIM!!!

IF & WHEN THINGS GET SERIOUS I SURE THE HELL HOPE WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB THAN WE'VE DONE HERE IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS!!!

THIS WORLD IS A TICKING TIME BOMB!!!

ITS GONNA GET WORSE!!!

WANNA PLACE ANY WAGERS ON THAT ONE???



THIS IS MY NEW GUN,YOU MAY NOT LIKE IT,YOU'LL LIKE IT A HELL OF A LOT LESS WHEN IT HITS ITS DESTINATION!!!
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THE ONLY bobcat THAT KNOWS ALOT OF YOU HAVE HAD THIS IMAGE IN YOUR PEA BRAIN BUT DUE TO POOR SHOOTING TACTICS I'M STILL KICKIN!!!
 
W has cost us trillions bobby.


I am a little shocked that we all know who was responsible for 911, we can't catch him because we have most all our resources in the wrong country and some of you are ok with it. If someone murdered my family, friends, relatives etc. I'd damn sure hunt them down until the sob was dead. It's like having a serial killer running around your neighborhood but it's ok because they can't catch him and he hasn't killed anyone you know.....yet.

Bill Clinton said he would have put far more troops and effort trying to catch him. I believe him. And you guys were afraid of Kerry's policies on terrorism?

Just answer this question. If we have another terrorist attack on our soil in 3 years because of obl, THEN WHO'S FAULT WILL IT BE???
 
I would wager that if OBL is alive, his skinny ass is holed up in Pakistan somewhere. I'd imagine that security around this maggot would make POTUS green with envy. Understand that OBL is most probably enjoying a status of a present day Muhammed. Its no wonder not even a 25 million dollar bounty on this rectal orifice can be collected.

Pakistan has nukes. In my wildest Mitty-esque fantasies, I would encourage a "cleansing" of that 3rd world $h!t hole (along with the UAE), but alas, foreign policy is complicated, is it not? Pakistan offers up a few martyrs for sacrifice from time to time, but one wonders if it isn't with the complicity 'twixt Mushareff and Al Q management.

That said, say the US and/or its allies initiates military action in that country. Who knows who actually has the codes to the biggest firecrackers in that trailer park. Some fanatic? Maybe some crazy says "to hell with it" and fires on India (whom they do not enjoy a comfy-kozy relationship).

India has nukes. In my wildest Mitty-esque fantasies, I would encourage a "cleansing" of that 3rd world $h!t hole....
 
It will be Clinton's fault for not killing him before 9/11 Zigga.


202 where do you get that Al Qaida is decimated? there was no pre war Al Qaida in Iraq and many of the ones who came have now moved back out, does that count as decimated? our Military says Al Qaida is "still capable of carrying out spectacular attacks" and the Taliban is alive and gaining power in Afghanistan. Iraq is just a side show, give it up most of us aren't buying your victory speach.
 
Again, Al Qaida must be pre-occupied with something. I have not seen any recent attacks on U.S. soil. So I don't think anyone is buying your Al Qaida victory speech either.
 
>>Again, Al Qaida must be pre-occupied
>>with something. I have
>>not seen any recent attacks
>>on U.S. soil. So
>>I don't think anyone is
>>buying your Al Qaida victory
>>speech either.
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>Doesn't mean that they haven't tried.....
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>Andy
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My point exactly Andy. They have either been directly or indirectly stopped from harming America. Maybe the sideshow worked and just maybe, maybe, Iraq has more to do with it than some would like to credit.

Bottom line is we know what their intentions are. And we know they have not been able to manifest their intentions on U.S. soil again.
 
The fact that the US has convinced the Sunni in Iraq to turn against Al- Quida is a far bigger blow to Al-Quida than capturing OBL. Some other POS would just replace him. Let OBL rot in his hole. And then rot in hell.

Nobody wanted OBL killed more than me but now I realize that he is nothing but a pathetic coward. Not worth the effort.

Eel
 
Kind of brings home the radio message intercepted where a Al quida fighter was pleding on the radio about his brave fearless leader to come back to the fight and not forsake them like he did.
On another note, Our intelligence does point to Osama Bin Laden hiding in the mountains located in Pakinstan near the border. Pakinstan has forbidden us from crossing into their country on any military operation to locate and capture Osama.
Anyone saying Bush is not doing his job on getting Osama is also advocating that we ignore the Pakinstan Gov. and go in with the military in a act that would be considered "an act of war" against Pakinstan. Is that what you want Zigga? Other wise you are being very unfair about laying this blame intirley on Bush on failing to get Osama.
Less we forget, the person most responsbile for Osama being alive today is none other then Slick Willie Clinton when he cancelled the cruise missile strike on Osama's terr training camp when intel had confirmed infro that Osama was in the camp.
Slick willie was too scared of offending the Saudies because one of their planes had landed at the camp and possiblle members of the Saudie Royal family was meeting with Osama. It probably was members of Osama's family that was meeting him.
If that strike would have taken place, the odds are very great that the plans for 9-11 would not have happened or been disrupted. Not only would it have wiped out Osama, but also wiped out major key elements of his operational staff.
Any one not accepting that the blood of 9-11 is on Slick Willie's hand is blind to the truth and beyond any amount of resonable thinking.
Bush could get osama within one month, all he has to do is order the strikes into another country, that has nukes for revenge, and if you try to convince me that Bush is failing to get him, then you trying to convince me that you are advocating war on Pakinstan!!! You can not have one without the other, so what is it that you want.

RELH
 
Have any of you guys who say we haven't been attacked since 9/11 looked at just why? law enforcement here and in other countries have been doing the work. do you even see that? many foiled attempts and none of them were born in Iraq. if they'ld have been doing the same job pre 9/11 they are today most likely 9/11 wouldn't even have happened. you guys credit Iraq with changing everything including the weather, get real.

RELH just when in a presidents term does he become responsible? if the middle east had reached a historic peace deal on 9/11 rather than attacking us I suppose Bush would have said " hey man, this was all Bill's doing don't give me credit, he was president 9 months ago"

You really need to let Clinton go , it's getting comical.
 
Remember right after 911 when w made his speech. He said something along the lines of any country harboring obl would face severe consequences.....or something like that. He is scared to go after obl and offending Pakistan just like Clinton was scared of offending the Saudis by killing obl, don't you think? What do you think the Saudis would have done if Clinton would have killed Osama pre 911? There would have been hell to pay I'm sure. I'm not saying 911 had to happen but Clinton didn't have a crystal ball telling him that 5hit was about to hit the fan. Clinton was closer at getting Osama than anyone. Now people say obl is not a threat, yet he still makes videos, and that someone will just take his place. Well wouldn't someone have just taken his place if Clinton would have got him and we still would have had an attack on US soil??? I like to live in the present and the facts are 911 happened on w's watch and the person responsible is still walking. As far as we know he is making porn videos and partying like a rockstar in some palace.

w=failure
 
Well, that is my proffession so yes I see that and thanks for the compliment. Perhaps it also gives me a point of view different from others.
 
Blame Bush, but leave Clinton along is all I hear from you guys. I fine it hard to leave Clinton along when he has the blood of those New Yorkers on his hand for failing to take action at the last minute.
You guys are forgetting that Osama already had American blood on his hands when Clinton cancelled that strike. That was the reason Clinton gave the go ahead to get him, then cancelled his own directive because of the Saudie plane being there.
Dude you are right about the 9-11 attackers not being from Iraq, most of them were saudie just like Osama, and the odds are very high that they were there with him in that camp being trained and briefed prior to leaving for the U.S. for their pilot training. Still believe Clinton should not bear the brunt of allowing 9-11 to happen.
By the way, do you "blame bush" guys think Bush should make strikes on Pakinstan in order to get Osama. Neither of you answered that question.
RELH
 
"By the way, do you "blame bush" guys think Bush should make strikes on Pakinstan in order to get Osama. Neither of you answered that question.
RELH"


Maybe if our foreign relations were better with Pakistan we could waltz right in....or even mosey. The way you word "strikes in Pakinstan" makes it sound like our only option is moabs and nukes against the Pakistan military and civilians. We obviously don't want a war with Pakistan, we just want our boy. Better foreign relations would probably allow that. Can't w up the anti for obl so all we have to do is wait at the border for them to hand him over? Money talks. We would have been further ahead to offer a billion dollar reward for obl dead or alive......do I hear 2 billion???
 
I wonder what President trained and funded OBL to become what he is today?

I suspect the crickets will be chirping....
 
Clinton failed to act at the last minute? Bush had 9 months, how many last minutes is that? if Clinton knew Bin Laden was a threat don't you think someone would have clued Bush in?

Should we bomb Pakistan trying to get Bin Laden now? probably not and for the same reasons Clinton didn't try for Bin laden , there may be complications from it. by the way, it's a lot easier to justify killing Bin Laden post 9/11 than pre 9/11, if Clinton had the freedom to go after Bin Laden we have today he couldn't have done any worse.
 
Well it wasn't the same one who put Saddam into power now was it? now I hear crickets.....
 
Okay, here-goes,

"IT'S ALL CLINTON'S FAULT!!!!!!!!"

Now, where's OBL? We elected our southern tough guy hero to kill him, he's not done the job. GBW=failure. . .
 
I wont be satisfied untill all terrorist are captured....here's the latest most wanted list.....

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If huntin is a sport.....Well your lookin at an athlete!
 

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