Applying for deer

3TOE · Mar 12, 2020

Can someone tell me when the application period will open to apply for deer this year? I can only find suggestions that it opens in May.
Have specific dates been set yet for the opening & closing for applying in the draw?
Thanks!

SlowElk · Mar 12, 2020

Hi. Just called Az. Game and Fish. Regs will be on-line in April, draw applications accepted in May, deadline is Second Tuesday in June (June 9). Best I could find, they didn't have specific dates yet. Good luck!

3TOE · Mar 12, 2020

Much appreciated! Thanks for going out of your way to give them a call.
Good luck to you also!!!

BOHNTR · Mar 12, 2020

Same time every year

3TOE · Mar 12, 2020

BOHNTR said:
Same time every year

Cool! ?? This will be my first year applying, so I had no clue & couldn’t find specific dates.

buckhorn · Mar 12, 2020

3TOE said:
Cool! ?? This will be my first year applying, so I had no clue & couldn’t find specific dates.

Here’s my opinion for what it’s worth.
If you want a Kaibab tag or a Strip tag you would be better off saving your money and buying raffle tickets or bidding on an auction tag. At your age and just starting in the points game you have better odds of being struck by lightning than ever drawing one of those tags in the regular draw.
If you’re good with hunting some other Muley units or a Coues then you may be able to draw one someday.
Best of luck to you.

3TOE · Mar 12, 2020

buckhorn said:
Here’s my opinion for what it’s worth.
If you want a Kaibab tag or a Strip tag you would be better off saving your money and buying raffle tickets or bidding on an auction tag. At your age and just starting in the points game you have better odds of being struck by lightning than ever drawing one of those tags in the regular draw.
If you’re good with hunting some other Muley units or a Coues then you may be able to draw one someday.
Best of luck to you.

Thanks Buckhorn! I took our conversation to heart & sincerely appreciate your candor. This next year I will be changing how I go about my application selections in a few of the state’s. . As for AZ, I’m really only interested in a coues tag. I’m aware, it may take a few years to draw a decent tag, but I’m going to throw my hat in & try.
Thanks again!!! ??

BOHNTR · Mar 12, 2020

You can hunt Coues deer every year.....with a bow and arrow.

Jerry · Mar 12, 2020

Be prepared when you finally draw a Coues Tag--- they are extremely hard to see from a distance !!! They are indeed " the ghosts of the mountains". Or Desert Mountains.
Best of Luck ! Jerry Gold ? Ft Collins, Colorado

3TOE · Mar 12, 2020

BOHNTR said:
You can hunt Coues deer every year.....with a bow and arrow.

I have a group of a friends that talked about doing the OTC archery hunt. I still want to start acquiring points for a rifle hunt down the road.

3TOE · Mar 12, 2020

Jerry said:
Be prepared when you finally draw a Coues Tag--- they are extremely hard to see from a distance !!! They are indeed " the ghosts of the mountains". Or Desert Mountains.
Best of Luck ! Jerry Gold ? Ft Collins, Colorado

Thanks! That is honestly the allure of them for me. I’ve heard & read that they are tough to hunt.

BOHNTR · Mar 12, 2020

3TOE said:
I have a group of a friends that talked about doing the OTC archery hunt. I still want to start acquiring points for a rifle hunt down the road.

You can do both.

oilcan · Mar 12, 2020

I have 21 NR points but if I was just starting out my plan would be to try and draw 2 Archery Kaibab tags in a 10 year period. That’s what I will do as soon as I draw my late rifle tag.

Abiggerfish2fry · Mar 13, 2020

I wouldn't give up on the strip tag! I drew 12b west late tag in 2014 with 2 points!

BOHNTR · Mar 13, 2020

Isn’t the true Strip 13A and 13B? I was always under the impression that 12B was considered part of the Kaibab???

buckhorn · Mar 13, 2020

BOHNTR said:
Isn’t the true Strip 13A and 13B? I was always under the impression that 12B was considered part of the Kaibab???

You are correct. 13a /13b is the Strip. The 12s are the Kaibab.

BOHNTR · Mar 13, 2020

buckhorn said:
You are correct. 13a /13b is the Strip. The 12s are the Kaibab.

That’s what I thought.....but then again the older I get the more , “you just never know.” ?

buckhorn · Mar 13, 2020

Copy that BOHNTR

On that note I did reread abiggerfishtofry’s post and I think what he meant was that there is always hope to draw with low points numbers. I think he just used his Kaibab draw as an example to not give up on the Strip as there is always a chance no matter how small it may be.

BOHNTR · Mar 13, 2020

buckhorn said:
Copy that BOHNTR

On that note I did reread abiggerfishtofry’s post and I think what he meant was that there is always hope to draw with low points numbers. I think he just used his Kaibab draw as an example to not give up on the Strip as there is always a chance no matter how small it may be.

You’re probably spot on! ?

Abiggerfish2fry · Mar 14, 2020

Yeah sorry guys! My point that there is a chance on the strip even with a few points! the one I drew 12b west late is a hard draw also..

3TOE · Mar 14, 2020

I’ve gathered that it all really depends on exactly how each state goes about their draw process.
After a good bit of research & talking with buckhorn one day, I concluded that UT is completely messed up with how they operate their system.
At least with AZ you do stand a shot at drawing, even if the odds are super low. I’m fine with that & that is fair...

Bwht4x4 · Mar 14, 2020

3TOE said:
I’ve gathered that it all really depends on exactly how each state goes about their draw process.
After a good bit of research & talking with buckhorn one day, I concluded that UT is completely messed up with how they operate their system.
At least with AZ you do stand a shot at drawing, even if the odds are super low. I’m fine with that & that is fair...

3TOE,

I'm not sure what you mean about UT's draw. I drew a LE archery elk hunt with 5 pts. It was taking approx 14 pts back then to draw the tag.

elkhunterUT · Mar 14, 2020

3TOE said:
I’ve gathered that it all really depends on exactly how each state goes about their draw process.
After a good bit of research & talking with buckhorn one day, I concluded that UT is completely messed up with how they operate their system.
At least with AZ you do stand a shot at drawing, even if the odds are super low. I’m fine with that & that is fair...

3TOE,
That is not correct info with regard to Utah’s draw. 50% of Utah’s tags for a given unit/species go to high point holders, and 50% go random so you actually do stand a chance of drawing in Utah every time you put your name in the draw, albeit with low odds in a lot of cases. As I always say, your odds are always 0% if your name isn’t in the hat. I drew a once in a lifetime Moose tag in Utah in 2000 with 0 points, and my brother drew a Book Cliffs archery elk tag with 0 points.

whitetailrick · Mar 14, 2020

Drew a Michigan elk tag when I was resident 100 bull tags for 40K apps you never know!

ruthunter · Mar 14, 2020

I drew a LE pronghorn tag in Utah last year with 2 points. It was the only non res tag available. Best goat hunt I’ve ever been on.

BigBuckKiller · Mar 16, 2020

I drew any weapon Henry's tag with 5 points as a non resident in 2008

SlowElk · Apr 29, 2020

Hello 3Toe. Arizona deer regulations are available online at azgfd.gov/draw. Good luck!!

3TOE · Apr 29, 2020

SlowElk said:
Hello 3Toe. Arizona deer regulations are available online at azgfd.gov/draw. Good luck!!

Thanks SlowElk! I was literally telling my wife an hour ago that I needed to go online & check on AZ’s regs and application dates. Much appreciated! ??

DoubleDropMuley · Apr 29, 2020

BigBuckKiller said:
I drew any weapon Henry's tag with 5 points as a non resident in 2008

Nice!!! Wut ya kill?

marley · May 5, 2020

I drew the Henry’s NR rifle tag in 2010 with one point.

oilcan · May 5, 2020

marley said:
I drew the Henry’s NR rifle tag in 2010 with one point.

Whatever Marley. ?

marley · May 5, 2020

No for reals.

HENRY MOUNTAINS TAG!!!!!! | Mule Deer

I just got a CC hit for $563. I thought for sure I would draw my elk tag this year so as a nonresident I just put in for the Henry's rifle deer tag as that was the only tag I would want more than my elk tag and somehow I drew the tag. I never thought that I would even consider hiring a guide...

www.monstermuleys.info

I also drew a NR Utah mountain goat tag with 2 points, the NM Valle Vidal elk tag the first time applying, a Boulder mountain elk tag with 11 points, a NV 111-115 archery elk tag with 11 points, and a Henry’s Bison tag with 13.

oilcan · May 5, 2020

marley said:
No for reals.

HENRY MOUNTAINS TAG!!!!!! | Mule Deer

I just got a CC hit for $563. I thought for sure I would draw my elk tag this year so as a nonresident I just put in for the Henry's rifle deer tag as that was the only tag I would want more than my elk tag and somehow I drew the tag. I never thought that I would even consider hiring a guide...

www.monstermuleys.info

I also drew a NR Utah mountain goat tag with 2 points, the NM Valle Vidal elk tag the first time applying, a Boulder mountain elk tag with 11 points, a NV 111-115 archery elk tag with 11 points, and a Henry’s Bison tag with 13.

Yes I know your a lucky son of a gun.
I remember seeing your Henry’s Deer it’s Awesome.

BradA · May 9, 2020

marley said:
No for reals.

HENRY MOUNTAINS TAG!!!!!! | Mule Deer

I just got a CC hit for $563. I thought for sure I would draw my elk tag this year so as a nonresident I just put in for the Henry's rifle deer tag as that was the only tag I would want more than my elk tag and somehow I drew the tag. I never thought that I would even consider hiring a guide...

www.monstermuleys.info

I also drew a NR Utah mountain goat tag with 2 points, the NM Valle Vidal elk tag the first time applying, a Boulder mountain elk tag with 11 points, a NV 111-115 archery elk tag with 11 points, and a Henry’s Bison tag with 13.