Advice on broadheads

[Wapato]

I'm looking for new 125 grain broadheads.I mostly hunt elk and I want a fixed blade. The problem is that I dont want to go out and buy new broadheads and use them with out having any solid proof that the heads will preform in the field. They must be able to blow through he shoulder bone of a elk just in case of the bad shot. Ishot SlickTricks last year but my brother lost a nice bull because the broadhead failed when it hit the shoulder.NO GOOD. Thanks for any advice.

 

[BOHNTR]

It's been my experiecne that very few broadheads will "blow" through the shoulder of ANY elk.....especially replaceable blade type heads. There are a few traditional style heads, however, that I have seen penetrate bone better than others. The first one that comes to mind are Zwickey Eskimos. One of the toughest heads built, IMO. Another very good head is the traditional style Magnus 2-blade. Another tough head. I've arrowed quite a few critters with these heads while shooting both compounds and recurves. You may want to try a few. Just be aware, these heads require sharpening abilities from the hunter to ensure a razor sharp edge.



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[a3dhunter]

I would suggest the G5 Montec or the Magnus Snuffer SS. Both are one piece broadheads. Stay away from replaceable blades. Good luck.

 

[wapiti11]

I have had great luck with 4 blade muzzy's. From experience these heads are tough and having that 4th blade does help massive blood loss. I also, had slick tricks and went back to the muzzy's right before the season opener, slick tricks look like a little weiner compared to the 4 bld. muzzy.
First morning out elk hunting, I shot a p&y bull at 49 yards and I remember watching that perfect arrow flight before impact, after impact the bull went 60 yrds, before piling up.
There was major bleeding and the arrow zipped right through a couple of ribs also. They are called "bad to the bone" for a reason.

 

[buncoboy]

Zwickey Eskimos have worked fine for me the last 25+ years. Have also harvested 4 bulls with Thunderheads. No problem with either.

 

[Idahoelk]

I have been really impressed with the design and flight of the snuffer ss 125 grn head. I didn't have the pleasure of a harvest this year with one but have no doubt it would have performed well had I had the oppurtunity.

 

[BigPig]

Wac'ems and Slick Tricks for me.

 

[monsterhunter]

i shot a cow elk with a g5 montec last year, really impressed i hit her a little far forward in the shoulder. it went through the close shoulder and was sticking out the off shoulder and she only went 50 yards

 

[elkantler75]

if you want to kill elk, shot placement is the key. wait for the good broadside shot and stay focused. within 30 yards, a magnus stinger will blow clean through as long as the shot placement is good. very few arrows will get penetration if they hit solid tissue like bone no matter what head you use. hunt smart and be patient!

 

[1shot1kill]

LAST EDITED ON Feb-19-07 AT 07:15AM (MST)[p]Go and get you some Muzzy 4 blade 125 grain. Bad to the bone. And sometimes bad through the bone!
1shot1kill.

 

[jodog]

Last year I used Magnus Snuffer SS 100gn and although I didn't hit a shoulder the BH worked great and thats what I'll use again this year.

 

[hunt1]

Muzzy Phantoms if you want it to bleed like an open faucet!

 

[SLIVER]

I second the G5 Montec. One peice solid MIM, Metal Injection Molding, technology. When I was researching which head to shoot a guy from here told me that he killed a cow elk and a mule deer and a bear in the same year with the same head. Just sharpened the head between hunts. He ended to say that his amazing head finaly got destroyed when his wife robinhooded his arrow with another Montec.

Super tough head

}}-SLIVER-->

 

[1elkarcher]

The montecs are awesome. I have never had a broadhead fly like a field point untill now. Great construction and very reliable. It is also very easy to sharpen. They are a little pricey but it will be an investment that pays off again and agian.

 

[RandyWeaver]

I shoot Slick Tricks for everything - including elk. I used to shoot Satellite Titans for elk and Thunderheads for deer, but I found that my arrow flight was much more consistent with the Slick Tricks, thus less likelihood of poor shot placement.

As for blowing through the shoulder blade of an elk, I'd go with a .338 with Partitions or solids...

Venado muy grande!

 

[3blade]

Magnus snuffer ss or stingers are the way to go. The stinger will out penetrate the snuffer because being a 2 blade it has less mass. But both will do the job if they are razor sharp and moving fast enough. I also suggest about a 400 grain arrow to maintain momentum.

 

[Woodro]

tried the g5 montecs with some gold tips and loved the setup. couple years ago went to the easton axis and had a whistle with the montecs so switched to some wac'ems and they flew great without a whistle with the axis arrows.

 

[elkaddiction]

I think there are few broadheads that you could count on regularly take out elk shoulders shooting typical equipment. There is no question that a cape or water buffalo set shooting 1000g arrows and 80+lb bows would do it, but I suspect few of us are willing to limit our ranges and put up with the trajectory. My own elk broadheads of choice are wacems and slicktricks. If you avoid the shoulder, they blow right through with modern equipment and medium weight (400g+) arrows. If I was absolutely set on upping the odds of taking on an elk shoulder, I'd go with FMJ arrows (small diameter) and silver flame broadheads. These are the sharpest and toughest heads I've ever seen. They are also $20 a pop. These heads are marketed primarily for African use and are well thought of. Go to the AT website for more info. Although I have three of these heads, for elk and big hogs(tougher to penetrate than elk in my experience), I'm content to use the wacems or slicks and steer clear of shoulders. When I want to bust shoulders, I grab the 340wby and 210 partitions at 3250fps.

 

[StickFlinger]

LAST EDITED ON Apr-17-07 AT 08:10PM (MST)[p]I use Rocky Mt. Razors or Ultras. Within my small hunting group they have worked well on several Elk and dozens of muledeer. They are plain and simple but sharp and strong, I have never lost a blade out of them.

 

[3blade]

This is so true..but, a magnus stinger will blow thru farther than 30 yds. Last yr I waited patiently for a cow elk to get within my range and then had to wait for it to turn before the winds shifted at dusk. When the shot presented itself I sent a 125 gr magnus stinger 4 blade right thru both lungs at 52 yds. She went 50 yds, stopped and looked around like what was that since the arrow hit the sage on the other side of her. Took two deep breaths and fell over. It was all over in about 10 seconds. Shot placement is key!!!

 

[ultimateshedfreak]

give thunderheads a try i shoot them my dad shoots them and he has shot elk and hit bones and hasnt broken a blade

 

[TK]

I had two of the three blades break on a Thunderhead 125 once on a elk shot throught the ribs. Did not hit shoulder blade at all. Recovered Elk but use Wac Ems now.

 

[Outwest]

If your main criteria is blowing through the shoulder of an elk you had better forget it and get a rifle.
I've seen elk shot square on the shoulder and the arrow fell out after 1/2" of penetration.
There are sections of the shoulder blade that a cut on contact head will penetrate but I don't know if I would call it blowing through guarenteed to the vitals. Some shots might make it some not.
You would be better off not taking the shot if there were a chance of hitting the shoulder bone.

Good luck.
John

 

[Bowtecher]

After reading some other posts like this I decided to
go try out the G5's.I've been using muzzy 100 grain 3 blades for years.WOW what a great broadhead the G5 is.The blades are alot thicker and sharper out of the box than muzzies.
I know what will be on the end of my arrows this year.
The G5 for sure.
Thanks to those that have talken so highly of the G5's.

 

[Rabidrattlesnake_]

If you want to blow through the shoulder of an elk every time get rid of the bow and pick up a 300. I hit the shoulder on the last bull I took and blew right through it with a G5 Monotec, but I think that was pure luck. 9 time out of 10 that arrow will pop right on out. I watched my buddy hit a bull in the shoulder about 4 years ago and that arrow only made it to the bone and popped right out. That bull ran 20 yards and started to graze again. There are many good broadheads out there, but none of them will guarantee a pass through on the shoulder. For what its worth I love the G5s.

 

[dryflyelk]

Best broadheads on the market:

1. Silver Flames
2. Slick Tricks (what I shoot now)
3. G5 Montec
4. Snuffer SS

Silver flames are a two bladed broadhead that are hand stropped stainless and are supposed to be indestructable. I think they are like $30 a piece though.

If you had a bad experience with a slick trick--you are in the minority. Read archerytalk.com and slick trix are by far the most popular head. They fly better than anything, are tougher than anything, and are cheaper than most. I've seen tests where all heads were shot into cars, microwaves, fridges, you name it, and the slick trick usually comes out unblemished. If you hit an elk in the shoulder with a trick and the arrow "failed", my guess is that it had nothing to do with the broadhead, as you were using the best one out there.

 

[elkantler75]

i do like the bleeder blade option of the magnus stinger. 4 blades compared to two just makes more sense. they are a hemorage machine. popped a rag bull last year at 15 yards and he went down in 50. heard him pile up and the blood trail was amazing. complete pass through too.