5B N Archery Elk

[shedneck]

A buddy and I have a decent shot at drawing the archery bull tag as non-residents this year. 16 points was bonus pool last year with later archery dates, so I’m guessing that may fluctuate a bit with normal dates. A two-point fluctuation might be a bit of a pipe dream, but we will see.

From the reports I’m seeing, looks like that country is pretty thirsty. Is it changing at all? Do you think the drought will persist long enough to have a big impact on the elk in that unit? I recognize that it’s a guessing game on weather, but some of you know this country well enough to understand what it may look like through September. Thank you and good luck to everyone in the draw.

 

[azbiggame]

a good snow fell, East and West of Your unit choice in late Jan.More coming in days to come, should make for good elk forage this Spring ... Bruce & SilverGrand

 

[shedneck]

a good snow fell, East and West of Your unit choice in late Jan.More coming in days to come, should make for good elk forage this Spring ... Bruce & SilverGrand

Thank you, Sir.

 

[t_boneking]

I had the archery tag in 2019. I had a great time and learned a ton. It was the best elk hunt I’ve been on, even though my tag went un-filled. Let me know if you have any questions.

 

[eyeguy]

Even with recent snowfall (which was a God-send) most of the state is in extreme drought. We could a couple more storms like that. I think the animals are being affected, unfortunatley

 

[BOHNTR]

Over 8” of snow out of last night’s storm in the White Mountains! I’ll take all I can get.

 

[Deer]

A buddy and I have a decent shot at drawing the archery bull tag as non-residents this year. 16 points was bonus pool last year with later archery dates, so I’m guessing that may fluctuate a bit with normal dates. A two-point fluctuation might be a bit of a pipe dream, but we will see.

From the reports I’m seeing, looks like that country is pretty thirsty. Is it changing at all? Do you think the drought will persist long enough to have a big impact on the elk in that unit? I recognize that it’s a guessing game on weather, but some of you know this country well enough to understand what it may look like through September. Thank you and good luck to everyone in the draw.

So do you have 16 points?

 

[shedneck]

I had the archery tag in 2019. I had a great time and learned a ton. It was the best elk hunt I’ve been on, even though my tag went un-filled. Let me know if you have any questions.

Thank you very much. If you ever need any help in Nevada, please reach out to me.

 

[shedneck]

So do you have 16 points?

A buddy and I applied as a party with 14. There was a big jump last year with the later dates. Like I said, we are hoping that the points drop a bit, but from 16 to 14 might be wishful thinking with the attention that unit is getting lately.

 

[Drnaln]

Good luck in the draw. Going in with 14 points might be tough?

 

[Deer]

A buddy and I applied as a party with 14. There was a big jump last year with the later dates. Like I said, we are hoping that the points drop a bit, but from 16 to 14 might be wishful thinking with the attention that unit is getting lately.

I think you will draw best of luck to you! Hope you keep us updated.

 

[shedneck]

I think you will draw best of luck to you! Hope you keep us updated.

Thank you. Sure hope you are right. We will know soon!

 

[WapitiBob]

Dates were better in 2019 (9/13) by two days and that 2020 (9/11) hunt still jumped by 3 points.

 

[Deer]

Dates were better in 2019 (9/13) by two days and that 2020 (9/11) hunt still jumped by 3 points.

5b north went into October last year

 

[WapitiBob]

yep
I'm getting old, scanned the whole page and didn't see that odd date.

 

[shedneck]

yep
I'm getting old, scanned the whole page and didn't see that odd date.

I think that’s what caused it to jump by three points. Of course, the good press that 5BN is getting is contributing as well. Just need it to cool down to 14 points! Drought, earlier dates, and a little luck....

 

[CAelknuts]

If you draw 5B North, let me know. My son drew it a few years ago and we had a great hunt. It’s an easy, fun hunt. Tons of elk.

 

[shedneck]

If you draw 5B North, let me know. My son drew it a few years ago and we had a great hunt. It’s an easy, fun hunt. Tons of elk.

Thank you. Looking forward to chatting with you. We will see if 14 is enough in just a few days.

 

[shedneck]

a good snow fell, East and West of Your unit choice in late Jan.More coming in days to come, should make for good elk forage this Spring ... Bruce & SilverGrand

Did the unit pick up any more moisture? I’ve been keeping an eye on Flagstaff weather.

 

[bonecollector777]

Did the unit pick up any more moisture? I’ve been keeping an eye on Flagstaff weather.

Last 30 day looking decent

Last 14 not so good

 

[shedneck]

Last 30 day looking decent
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Last 14 not so good
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Thank you. Hopefully more to come.

 

[OutdoorWriter]

Last 30 day looking decent

Should make for some good critters to poach, eh?

 

[buckhorn]

Should make for some good critters to poach, eh?

I am curious why you would make this comment. Please explain
Thanks

 

[WapitiBob]

Heber/Overgaard residents guilty of poaching, schemes, after AZGFD investigation

HEBER/OVERGAARD — They thought they got away with it but the Arizona Game and Fish Department (AZGFD) finally caught up with Blake R. Owens, 30, of Heber and Thomas “TJ”

www.wmicentral.com

I assume he's done what was required by the courts and hopefully learned something.

 

[shedneck]

Heber/Overgaard residents guilty of poaching, schemes, after AZGFD investigation

HEBER/OVERGAARD — They thought they got away with it but the Arizona Game and Fish Department (AZGFD) finally caught up with Blake R. Owens, 30, of Heber and Thomas “TJ”

www.wmicentral.com

Disgusting!

 

[WapitiBob]

Sometimes people get stupid, I certainly have.
I, like many are quick on the keyboard but It doesn't do me or him any good to assume he's the same person. He was a contributor here for years and I assume he's "done his time". Time for me/us to move on and give him a chance to prove himself.

 

[OutdoorWriter]

I am curious why you would make this comment. Please explain
Thanks

Blake R. Owens (aka Bonecollector 777).

The charges listed below (result of a plea bargain) are from the AZG&F Commision June 10 , 2020 meeting agenda to consider the other punishments, which resulted in 10 years of hunting license suspension & a lifetime suspension of his guide's license. In addition he also stole trail cameras a few years ago.


2020-0036 Criminal Simulation (Intent To Defraud With Article
Submitted To Eastmans’ Bowhunting Journal) (Class 6 Open Felony).
Criminal Simulation (Intent To Defraud With Application To Pope And Young Club) (Class 6 Open
Felony).
Possess Or Transport Any Wildlife (4x4 200” Mule Deer) Or Parts Of The Wildlife That Was Unlawfully Taken.
Take Big Game (3x3 Drop Tine Mule Deer) During a Closed Season.
2020-0038 Possess Or Transport Any Wildlife (6x6 Mule Deer) Or Parts Of The Wildlife That Was Unlawfully Take.
2020-0039 Take Wildlife (Black Bear) with an Unlawful Method.
Attempted Fraudulent Schemes and Practices (Class 6 open felony).
2020-0040 Possess Or Transport Any Wildlife (Coati) Or Parts Of The Wildlife That Was Unlawfully Taken.
2020-0041 Possess Or Transport Any Wildlife (5x4 Mule Deer) Or Parts Of The Wildlife That Was Unlawfully taken

 

[AZNATIVE98]

He's not even close to doing his time. His fines may have been paid by his brother running hounds but he still has quite a few years on his license suspension and if he was truly that remorseful he would have manned up and stood before the commission and apologized for his disgusting acts.

 

[buckhorn]

Blake R. Owens (aka Bonecollector 777).

The charges listed below (result of a plea bargain) are from the AZG&F Commision June 10 , 2020 meeting agenda to consider the other punishments, which resulted in 10 years of hunting license suspension & a lifetime suspension of his guide's license. In addition he also stole trail cameras a few years ago.


2020-0036 Criminal Simulation (Intent To Defraud With Article
Submitted To Eastmans’ Bowhunting Journal) (Class 6 Open Felony).
Criminal Simulation (Intent To Defraud With Application To Pope And Young Club) (Class 6 Open
Felony).
Possess Or Transport Any Wildlife (4x4 200” Mule Deer) Or Parts Of The Wildlife That Was Unlawfully Taken.
Take Big Game (3x3 Drop Tine Mule Deer) During a Closed Season.
2020-0038 Possess Or Transport Any Wildlife (6x6 Mule Deer) Or Parts Of The Wildlife That Was Unlawfully Take.
2020-0039 Take Wildlife (Black Bear) with an Unlawful Method.
Attempted Fraudulent Schemes and Practices (Class 6 open felony).
2020-0040 Possess Or Transport Any Wildlife (Coati) Or Parts Of The Wildlife That Was Unlawfully Taken.
2020-0041 Possess Or Transport Any Wildlife (5x4 Mule Deer) Or Parts Of The Wildlife That Was Unlawfully taken

Thanks for that explanation.

 

[Founder]

So much for that conversation about 5B archery elk!

 

[shedneck]

So much for that conversation about 5B archery elk!

We can save it! Someone on here will know Friday morning that they are chasing bulls in 5BN this September.

 

[OutdoorWriter]

So much for that conversation about 5B archery elk!

Nah, the ethical members in the thread will do just fine.

 

[WapitiBob]

I didn't apply for 5BN, not enough random tags.

 

[5BCowgal]

A buddy and I have a decent shot at drawing the archery bull tag as non-residents this year. 16 points was bonus pool last year with later archery dates, so I’m guessing that may fluctuate a bit with normal dates. A two-point fluctuation might be a bit of a pipe dream, but we will see.

From the reports I’m seeing, looks like that country is pretty thirsty. Is it changing at all? Do you think the drought will persist long enough to have a big impact on the elk in that unit? I recognize that it’s a guessing game on weather, but some of you know this country well enough to understand what it may look like through September. Thank you and good luck to everyone in the drawI work on a ranch located in the 5B unit. Just letting you know we got some monsoon rains and most all the tanks have good water currently 8/22/21. Even Hart tank is full finally!

Good luck!

 

[5BCowgal]

A buddy and I have a decent shot at drawing the archery bull tag as non-residents this year. 16 points was bonus pool last year with later archery dates, so I’m guessing that may fluctuate a bit with normal dates. A two-point fluctuation might be a bit of a pipe dream, but we will see.

From the reports I’m seeing, looks like that country is pretty thirsty. Is it changing at all? Do you think the drought will persist long enough to have a big impact on the elk in that unit? I recognize that it’s a guessing game on weather, but some of you know this country well enough to understand what it may look like through September. Thank you and good luck to everyone in the draw.

I live and work out in the 5B area. The monsoons finally gave us some moisture and most every tank is currently full in 5 B north. Even Hart tank has caught water and is full!

 

[5BCowgal]

 

[shedneck]

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Thank you so much. That’s great news. Unfortunately, 15 points wasn’t enough this year for that hunt.