So Mr Triple_BB---What the haydes lit your fire this AM!!! You have had "some success"! If it's so easy, why did't you say you have been 100% successful with everybody you've asked to hunt? From what I've seen throughout the state, the ranchers are a lot more protective of their deer than their friggin goats! That's all my statement was and I didn't say anything more than that. If you think my posts are meaningless, then why are you reading them? I could probably name a dozen people I've helped to set up hunts on the site since joining last December, including making maps for some of them. In fact, I'm taking a member to my better spots this year as he's having some health problems and I'm going to try and get him a couple decent animals. Give me a break will ya, LOL!!!