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Year after year, the story never changes, the three biggest losers on revenue minus expenses for the G&F are, in order, fishing (-$6.2M), Bighorns (-$1.6M), and Pheasants (-$1.5M). PP revenue is used largely to cover cheap fishing licenses, expensive pheasant stocking and fragile bighorns.

Like bringing a knife to a gun fight.

wstrntines is doing a great job of kicking his own butt. He just comes off looking like a punky little b!tch

In 2008 when this thread started, yes. Today not so much.

Gotcha. Was that an after the fact change or was it like that all along?

A few people must know something about a ram or two in 17 that most don't. My guess at least.

Wyoming G&F needs to end all dependency it has on NR's.

Yes and yes.

While a few NR's are whimpering about getting an email, these two Wyoming residents are donating a few hundred thousand dollars to the fund. Oh the irony! https://cowboystatedaily.com/2024/05/09/wyomings-prized-pronghorn-herds-still-devastated-by-epic-winterkill/

Hell yeah! Congrats

Good tag in a target rich environment. Happy to share what I know about moose in the area.

That’s because MT treats NRs right. Not like another state that I won’t mention. Congrats on the tag! Put all the PTO to work.

This is something I can get onboard with.

As a Wyo resident, I agree that this graph is embarrassing. We need to increase the resident funding percentage. First, and only step, towards that goal should be the elimination of all NR license sales. Mission accomplished!

Be honest, on purpose or accidently? We've all been in that situation before and wondered, What if I...

My anecdotal observations from my neck of the woods. Over the last several years I have seen a huge uptick in folks out looking for sheds on the mine I work at in southwestern Wyoming. Folks are largely picking up elk sheds around here with the occasional deer shed. Prior 4-5 years, every...

We also have limits on the number of M’s in the word amount.

A couple of pics explain why all the mice and squirrels have such weak bones around Casper and Laramie.

Good Lord!

I know more than one resident sheep hunter that tried to tackle those wilderness areas around YS by themselves only to call on the services of an outfitter later in the season after finding out those areas are no joke.

Wilderness rule was detrimental to resident general elk hunters prior to the removal of the 7250 cap. It artificially congregates NR gen hunters to non-wilderness gen areas. Now that the gloves are off on NR gen tags, G&F would just propose more NR gen tags if they were able to spread out more.

The one species that the Wilderness rule is a burden, IMO, is bighorn. That really cuts down on options for the NR hunter. But in reality, the vast majority of folks hunting bighorn would really be served well by using an Outfitter especially in those wilderness areas. This goes for residents...

Might be just the bargaining chip folks are looking for to get what they desire.

Most of my emails to Wyo Legislators get no response. A few will consistantly reply but most are crickets. Best way for me has been to speak to them face-to-face. I am on a couple of Committees and Boards that these folks want to speak with and get the support of. Talking to them about my...

If NR's spent one tenth of the time they spend crying about the Wilderness rule on internet forums, on actually trying to get this law overturned they might be succesful. But they wont! They will continue to wait for someone else to do it. They might donate to the cause if some hapless dude...

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If you were hunting in a non-wilderness area and your friend left half his elk in the field, would you get a ticket for wanton waste? The obligation for meat retrieval is on the licensed hunter not the resident guide. Might be different for a paid guide or mentor hunter situation, that I am...

Swing for the fences on elk in Wyo. If you strike out, get yourself a pocket full of those unlimited tags and go hunt the Mule Creek Ranch. (No relation)

Agreed. Understood, I just don't see it that way. I see it as PP's were purchased in order to give you Preference in a draw conducted under a PP system. There should have been an understanding on everyone's part that if a PP draw went away those point would be useless to them. PP's aren't...

Don't overthink this. IME, NR's put far more thought into the whole Wilderness rule than the G&F does. Not sure a call is going to get you anymore clarification than what you got on this website. I would agree with your original assumption. Once your tag is notched the "hunt" is over. After...

I do not agree. I think it is perfectly fine to make a change to the system after 3 decades. I guarantee that no one expected demand to increase like it has and supply decrease like it has over the last 3 decades. Watching what has happened over those 3 decades and then deciding a change is...

Yes they can. Being upset with a change is one thing. Saying a change can’t be made without a refund is just factually incorrect.

I got a feeling that a $15 BJ could also be described as shark bite.

Had a plumber out looking into an HVAC issue. When he was done, I asked him about replacing a leaking 3/4" ball valve (sweat fitting). $175! Ended up doing it myself, the fitting cost around $15 IIRC.

Guarantee is based off your description of your experience with Founders service and my firsthand experience with the hunters I have hiked with. What you got from Founder. He scouted for bucks for himself. He found a buck that was really good but he had his sights set on a different buck. He...

Guarantee that the friends and complete strangers I have helped hunt Wyo Wilderness areas had 10x less hand holding than you did when you teamed up with Founder and killed the buck he found for you.

Don't agree with true random for moose and sheep. Needs to be some benefit for time in the game. Don't need to see as many kids drawing moose and sheep as adults. But those just entering the system need to have some hope.

Long term a change away from PPs is a good thing. I’ll deal with whatever change comes along and accept the choices I have made. No guarantees in life.

It’s more of a time thing for me. My current job doesn’t really allow me the time I would like to put in for a sheep tag. Was hoping to make a sheep tag my retirement gift in a few years

My 24 sheep points don’t like a change but my 9 moose points think it’s a great idea