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Dude. At least make it legit and do ¢0.69 that’s all I’m worth anyways. $15? People gonna think this is high class

I get quite a kick out of Bess thinking I let the cat out of the bag when Facebook had it up and going 2 days ago 😂. This place is the short bus of social media. I can’t miss an opportunity to get a back door reference in anytime I can tho, @one_dryboot gives out special rewards sometimes. you...

My application fees changed to $255 wife’s stayed the same at $30. That’s dedicated+my application fees Checking the view edit withdraw application page. I know Bess and niller clicked on this expecting something very different

Not today ATF not today.

Lots of discourse around LE, points, and time in general. Been thinking about it quite a bit myself. Some things that have been wandering around my head. I’ve been hunting for 21 years now. In year 19 I killed a 200” deer off a general unit. Granted on LE late muzz tag. I didn’t stack points...

Define ‘fix’. If it’s completely resolve then yes, no solution possible. If fix is closer to alleviate, well, I think we can do some things around an either/or mentality with regard to applications that would significantly impact the problem positively.

Not increasing LE units, don’t want to do that, but picking 5 or so units and leaning 110% into the trophy model. Oldest age class, highest buck to doe, etc etc. I was playing with numbers and figured with some guessing and application of econ 101 science principle those 5 units would settle at...

One of the bigger takeaways from elk committee survey work was this: there’s a pretty clear delineation or line between the group of people who would be considered trophy hunters, and those who just desire to hunt. I came away believing we could make people choose between LE and GS without a...

I didn’t get my way on the snatch. Shucks. I’ll just have to be content with the stupid big increases that’ll probably hit in 2025 when I’m back eligible for elk. Darn. Big time hurt feelings over here

@ColdBore if you want to put in for a Wasatch tag, consider any bull you kill packed out. I’ll handle anything after the shot, any season. If you wanna talk guided hunt I’m available for the rest of the evening. Even so, I’d pack a bull for a Vet no questions asked.

At no point in time has it ever been not a tall order. 350”+ on any unit in this state at any point in time has always been the exception not the rule.

Hang on guys, I’m gonna go add up how many deer this will help add to the population. Nobody say anything till I get back. Probably take at least a week to figure out how managing tags and hunters again will help deer out. I mean we’ve never done this before, it’s totally uncharted territory...

It’s a tall order. I’d give him everything time wise we could. I feel confident we’d see a bull or 3 like that but getting them killed is tough. If he wants to chat have him reach out 435-671-3024

Nebo or manti with Alpha. South cache with mossback, and don’t sleep on north slope 3 corners, but not sure who outfits it. Any northern unit is gonna be a gamble this year, but I think it’s a good gamble.

I even went and googled, he was handed a $250 fine for transporting warm blooded wildlife so illegal. He ran down a living creature, paraded it for show at a bar, and killed it after filming it for his own personal reasons, which by nearly any standard would be unethical. So. Yes, illegal and...

Man does something unethical and illegal, Tristate defends beyond reason and logic. Nothing burger here just a MM Wednesday afternoon.

This is what it takes to get me up to average. Some guys aren’t good at stuff and need all the help they can get just to be passable.

I like passing MOTL bucks. I like having a tag in my pocket to pass MOTL bucks. Give me more tags more frequently and I’ll pass more MOTL bucks like this one I passed last year. Wonder if ol bessy has ever considered that giving guys more frequent hunting opportunities would lead to less...

This is an actual thing FYI I have seen it up close and personal. Literally poof, spray of blood and gone. Little late to the convo, but I’m very interested to see how the deer fair the next 2-3 years specifically. Coming off of a monster winter/kill in 22. Into absolutely prime conditions in...

No idea, I imagine they probably fly one of the 3 sub units every year. That’s how they tackled it when I was paying more attention. Not gonna find the late archery data only one year anyways so it’s not worth much. Multi season remains a 70% and 3.something satisfaction.

SS, here’s where I, or my guys, saw the biggest concentrations of elk this year and when. I’m not discounting your experience, I heard a lot of guys say the same over the season last year, this is just mine and people around me. 120~ head face of two Tom August. 200~2nd/3rd water November 150~...

When we got finally fed up enough with the control permit debacle in 2017 I think, we said exactly the same thing in much much not nicer language. I told the biologist he was a liar and lazy on the front porch of the store one day 😎 not my finest moment. He got heated and told us to get in the...

2023 success and hunter satisfaction: Archery 230 hunters afield 12 days 25% harvest 3.2 satisfaction. Early rifle 99 afield 61% 3.4 days 3.3 satisfaction Mid 273 51% 7 days 3.1 Muzz 143 48% 6.4 days 3.3 Late 157 5.5 days 57% 3.1 2022 for reference Archery: 24.9% 3.2 ER: 67% 3.8 LR: 78% 3.9...

Post season 2023 pop estimate 10,800 3 year age trend 21-23: 5.9, 5.7, 5.0. Average 5.53333333 951 LE permits, 9 cons tags, around 100 CWMU permits within unit boundaries. If you’d like more, let me know I’m happy to go googling for those who struggle

Ol Bessy has taken a beating here. The best part? Not once have I suggested I don’t want age. I’ve literally repetitively stated that age is coming and coming quickly in large numbers. If it wasn’t I’d be 100% supportive of cutting tags and probably doing so more aggressively than suggested...

The falling age class has everything to do with the cow control permits of the mid 2010’s IMO. We put a serious hurt on the public land elk on the unit for 5+ years and as a result saw significantly impacted population recruitment. This is the bottom of that barrel. Objective at the time was...

Another, ‘well actually’. If I remember correctly we manage for a 2-1 bull to cow ratio. 2 cows to 1 bull. That’s a very fuzzy remember and I would be very much not shocked to learn I was wrong. So busting out my Wasatch high mathematics, that would give us roughly 650~ extra bulls on the...

Let me do some ‘splainin to you. 23 sucked, everyone knows it. No one is hiding from it, we killed a bunch of 5 points. Couple of good bulls as well, It was an outlier due to winter. The most likely outcome for 24? Huge rebound. We have an abundance of elk and bulls on the landscape. The first...

Ok here’s some more actual factual information. 1. Contrary to Bess’s claims the Wasatch is not under age objective. The three year trend is 5.9, 5.7, 5.0. Average is 5.5 Managed for 5.5-6 Per the plan iirc. Trend is down. Still within management bounds. 2. Population isn’t the issue THE...

I hope I’m not misunderstood, I’m not saying the division is wrong. Age class on the unit is falling, and quality last year was awful for a number of reasons. My position is rooted in the belief that the age class issue will solve itself, via increased population, and by proxy larger age...

The division is required to respond to falling age class trends, which we are seeing and is the impetus behind the recommendation. They are doing their mandated job by proposing the cuts. I just fail to see the logic, and can’t get behind a proposal that is rooted in a ‘cover your butt’...

The oldest schtick in the book continues.

Submitted a comment regarding the proposal for tag cuts. Thought I’d share here for fellas to consider: Cameron Phillips with Strawberry Bay. Rac members; grateful for your service. Would like to speak directly concerning the proposal to cut approximately 125 LE permits in response to falling...

allegedly the gov tag buck came from one of the units asked about. Never could quite nail that down, people on here were so cryptic, they just said it rhymed with ‘banned on’ as in banned on antelope island. I wish we could just speak more clearly

I should know this, but can’t remember or where to look, where do the dedicated hunter tags come from? Is that a separate pool or do they pull from existing GS deer tags?

This was the funniest thing I’ve seen in a while, it was actually the Baylor basketball team for a march madness game. 😂😂

I saw some deer in the basin this morning Bess. One of them was playing chicken with the truck