Found DEAD Archery Bull on Boulder (Utah)

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Hey guys, we have been on the Boulder Unit (Utah) hunting for my buddy's LE Any Weapon elk hunt and came across a bull that was hit/wounded on the archery hunt and has now died. If anyone has any info. in regard to this possibly being your bull or someone's bull you associate with, PM me with your contact info. and I will get back in touch with you when I can. (I plan to be on the Mtn. and out of service for at least another week or so) therefore I will get back in touch with you as soon as I can.

Thanks

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LAST EDITED ON Sep-18-17 AT 06:31PM (MST)[p]I have a good friend, who's daughter lost a bull that was shot behind the front shoulder with an arrow on the Boulder. It started rain right after the bull was hit and they have been looking for it every since. I am trying to reach him right now to get more information on exactly where on the mountain they were hunting. If you can, call me at 435-979-5521, my name is DeLoss Christensen from Glenwood, Utah.

No way at this point, to know if the bull you found is the bull she hit but I certainly appreciate you posting this information and I know she will be over joyed if it does end up being the bull she hit. Incidently, this lady has spent hundreds of hours, every year, doing conservation projects in South Central Utah, to improve hunting and fishing, she's a true sportswoman.

Thank you very much. PM sent, with name and phone number of the hunter.

DC
 
So I ticked off a bunch if members on another forum on a thread just like this one. When I questioned the fact that anybody cared about losing the meat on a bull found days after being arrowed, they hammered me. It was all about how great it was somebody else found the bull and the hunter would get the rack. I'm happy the guy found out whar happened to the bull. So, in this scenario, do you take the rack and be proud, or not? mtmuley
 
>So I ticked off a bunch
>if members on another forum
>on a thread just like
>this one. When I questioned
>the fact that anybody cared
>about losing the meat on
>a bull found days after
>being arrowed, they hammered me.
>It was all about how
>great it was somebody else
>found the bull and the
>hunter would get the rack.
>I'm happy the guy found
>out whar happened to the
>bull. So, in this scenario,
>do you take the rack
>and be proud, or not?
>mtmuley


Well mt!

If The Hunter or Huntress is still Trying to Locate the 'Only' Bull He or She Shot!

Then I say Let them be Proud even if it is Just the Rack!

It Happens!

No!

I Don't Like it any better than anybody else!

But It beats the Hell out of not Finding it at all or somebody arrowing more Bulls!









Back Me Off to 1,700 Yards,650 is a Little Close & I'm Not Comfortable with it!

A GUT SHOT at 1,700 Yards will Still Make Some Good BRAGGIN Rights so I Can Say I At Least Hit Him!


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LAST EDITED ON Sep-18-17 AT 06:49PM (MST)[p]Bess, I don't know if I could look at the rack of a bull recovered like that in the same way as one recovered "normally". It would always remind me of the way I felt before somebody else found it. I lost a bull once. I still think about it all the time. (12 years ago) If I had the rack, it would be a more constant reminder. mtmuley
 
Well I Agree with you mt!

It Sure the Hell Ain't a Good Feeling!

Sometimes you gotta make the Best of a Bad Situation though!

The Ones that Aggitate Me are the Ones Shooting & Wounding Multiple Animals on one Permit!







Back Me Off to 1,700 Yards,650 is a Little Close & I'm Not Comfortable with it!

A GUT SHOT at 1,700 Yards will Still Make Some Good BRAGGIN Rights so I Can Say I At Least Hit Him!


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I saw the thread on rockslide your talking about. That bull was a monster and mostly everybody was commenting to the op how honorable his action was. It SUCKS to loose the meat but hopefully they can get closure and learn from the experience and not shoot anymore elk on that tag.
 
Yeah, that was me. I voiced my opinion and since I wasn't on the feel good train, I got hammered with all kinds of crap. I said it there, and here, I'm glad the hunter has closure. But to me, walking off with the rack and not the rest of the bull, isn't right. If the hunter can possess that rack and not be reminded of the way they got it, guess I shouldn't be concerned. mtmuley
 
LAST EDITED ON Sep-18-17 AT 07:21PM (MST)[p]I hope the OP finds the hunter and can help them out.
It is a shame to lose the meat! We all know how tasty elk is.
As to the rack maybe the hunter will have a constant reminder that when hunting anything can happen but we try and limit ourselves and take a lesson learned away from every situation we are in.
 
It's just something about wondering what happened to that animal you arrowed ? Did it live and go on or die. You just don't know. My daughter hit a buck on the archery hunt last year. It was going to thunderstorm. So we stayed on it until 2 am before loosing the blood trail in the dark. I spoke with a fellow I gave a ride back to his truck after a long hike. He told about a muzzleloader buck he shot last year. It ended up being my daughters buck. The poor buck had that pink arrow sticking out of him until the muzzleloader hunt. He was hurt but still alive. The guy said he didn't know it was wounded until after he shot it. It was a nice 24 " 4x4 . At least we know what happened and aren't still looking for him wondering what happened. Years of wondering ended! It's nice to have closer. Still hoping to get a few pictures of the buck from the guy. Never got his name. But I have seen him for the last two years driving a grey half ton four door a Dodge .
 
Better returning it to who shot it. I'd love for it to not go completely to waste. Better than some flat brimmer finding it and taking it illegally or selling it. Or even better, turning it into the fish and game, like the rules state you need to do, and them turning around and either auctioning them to the highest bidder or just plain selling them. Means a lot more to whomever shot it to recover it and have somewhat decent memories.
 
A) season is over, putting a tag on it is technically illegal ie; you no longer have a valid tag

B) as a deadhead, taking it is also technically illegal
 
First of all- I believe WapitiBob is correct as far as the "legality" of getting the antlers. I'm guessing there is at least a lengthy process of turning the antlers over to the DWR, then having to demonstrate that it was in fact the girl's kill... And even then, there is absolutely no guarantee the DWR will "donate" the antlers to them.

Second- I'd just like to comment on the meat going to waste. It is a huge shame, there is no doubt, that the animal wasn't recovered in order to harvest the entire animal. I've never wasted an animal while hunting and I hope it never happens to me. That said, the honest truth is that an animals set of antlers (and their cape) is what makes them unique compared to all other bucks/bulls/whatever of their species. I get that meat can taste different, but let's face it, back straps all look and eat like backstraps. And, once you eat the meat, it all comes out the same on the other end. The antlers, however, are the only lasting reminder of the hunt. They are one of a kind. They become a part of your history/legacy. They are the preservation of our adventure.

I would never condone wasting meat on purpose, and I would never condemn someone for later recovering the antlers from a kill.

"Therefore, wo be unto him that is at ease in Zion!" 2 Ne. 28: 24
 
I'll bet if it is the Bull the Gal Arrowed!

And She Goes about it Legally & Ethically She Gets the Rack!









Back Me Off to 1,700 Yards,650 is a Little Close & I'm Not Comfortable with it!

A GUT SHOT at 1,700 Yards will Still Make Some Good BRAGGIN Rights so I Can Say I At Least Hit Him!


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LAST EDITED ON Sep-19-17 AT 08:39PM (MST)[p]I'll bet your right BC.

Sliver hasn't checked back yet, he did say he'd be out of reach for a week, so nothing new to report as of yet. Regardless, if the dead bull turns out to be her bull, or not, if karma counts for anything, he and his buddy deserve a great hunt and I hope they kill a bull of their dreams. He's trying to help some disappointed hunter out. That is as much of the point here, as any thing else, imo.

DC
 
I literally LOL'd when you said "some flat brimmer.." hahahaha

As for the topic, I'd be happy if I was the hunter and had closer. I'd feel sick about the meat going to waste as we all should but closer and antlers would make for a nice consolation in my opinion.

>Better returning it to who shot
>it. I'd love for it
>to not go completely to
>waste. Better than some flat
>brimmer finding it and taking
>it illegally or selling it.
>Or even better, turning it
>into the fish and game,
>like the rules state you
>need to do, and them
>turning around and either auctioning
>them to the highest bidder
>or just plain selling them.
>Means a lot more to
>whomever shot it to recover
>it and have somewhat decent
>memories.
 
Here's a what if question, what if the previous hunter already tagged out on another bull? There was some guy on here a few years ago wanting both. I think it was a wasatch bull.
 
Well hec it's a small world. Yes I guess we are still looking then. Thanks for the pictures. She was shooting a Eston arrow with a WAC em broad head. Pink and some other colors? But she was broad side to his left side. She thought she hit a little forward and caught the shoulder ? Thank you for the reply. I talked with you son on the evening hunt. I didn't get back to the cabin a little bit latter then usual. So I knew I would have probably missed him. Didn't see him after that. We never found the arrow. So I am going to keep looking. As we are in that area a lot. Just want to know what happened to him. Thank you
 
>Sorry to go off topic but
>that buck looks to of
>been shot from a tree
>stand, don't you guys think?
>


Yes looks like a high butt shot for sure. My daughter saw the picture and said dad. I am your kid ! I would never take a shot like that. I was proud to say it wasn't a shot my daughter made. Definitely some weird shot placement. Yes sorry for the hijack. Hopefully Silver gets back to us on the bull. I heard of a late recovery like this a year or two before. The person didn't fill the tag and had the arrow. As well as video proof and fish and game gave them well. What was left.
 
Update on the DEAD Archery Bull on Boulder.

Sliver's buddy has contacted the lady that loss her archery bull and they have determined that the bull found by Sliver was not the bull she hit and lost.

I hope the archer who lost the bull Sliver found can still be located. My friend and her family will be returning to the Boulder this weekend to continue searching for the one she hit.

Thanks, Sliver and your buddy, for the effort you are making to locate the hunter that last the bull you found. Outstanding sportsmen. Good luck on your LE Any Weapon hunt.

DC
 
>Sorry to go off topic but
>that buck looks to of
>been shot from a tree
>stand, don't you guys think?
>

That deer was probably one of those 100yd trajectories. Turned to run at the sound of the shot.

Justin
 
>>Sorry to go off topic but
>>that buck looks to of
>>been shot from a tree
>>stand, don't you guys think?
>>
>
>That deer was probably one of
>those 100yd trajectories. Turned to
>run at the sound of
>the shot.
>
>Justin

100 or 100+!

When 45ing an Arrow that can Happen!










Back Me Off to 1,700 Yards,650 is a Little Close & I'm Not Comfortable with it!

A GUT SHOT at 1,700 Yards will Still Make Some Good BRAGGIN Rights so I Can Say I At Least Hit Him!


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I don't know the Utah law but about 4 years ago I found. Deadhead in Wyoming. A $6.00 fee to game and fish and I legally took that head home.
 
LAST EDITED ON Sep-29-17 AT 10:39AM (MST)[p]Hi Guys! I'm finally back off the mountain, and had a great time. So far I haven't had anybody contact me who's archery area matches up with the location of the dead bull I found. Hope we can match it up soon. I'll post pics of the bulls we were able to harvest in a separate post when I get a moment.

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I know this happened in Utah, but in Arizona it would be illegal to tag the bull or take the antlers.

Here you call AZGFD they come out ans they will take the antlers that are then sold later at auction.

The hunter who lost it can buy the antlers at the auction (anyone could)and that often happens when they know the bull was found.

A wounded animal that is lost and then found AFTER the season closes, can't tag it, even if his name was on the arrow.

Just the way it is in Arizona, but again not sure about Utah.

Sad situation though.

Don Martin
AWO
 
Nobody Claiming it!

I'll Bet another Bull was Arrowed!

They're 'Just' Trophy Bulls!

Hope I'm Wrong!






Back Me Off to 1,700 Yards,650 is a Little Close & I'm Not Comfortable with it!

A GUT SHOT at 1,700 Yards will Still Make Some Good BRAGGIN Rights so I Can Say I At Least Hit Him!


90087hankjr.jpg
 
LAST EDITED ON Sep-29-17 AT 10:39AM (MST)[p]Hi Guys! I'm finally back off the mountain, and had a great time. So far I haven't had anybody contact me who's archery area matches up with the location of the dead bull I found. Hope we can match it up soon. I'll post pics of the bulls we were able to harvest in a separate post when I get a moment.

}}-SLIVER-->
Sliver, my dad shot a big 6 point that year off of Boulder with his LE archery tag and we have been looking for it every year since he shot it. We figured someone picked it up but my buddy sent me a message saying someone found a dead bull close to the time of when he shot it. Do you have any pictures of the bull that you found? He is willing to pay for it if it ends up being the bull he shot. Shoot me a text or call @ (801) 473-6886 when you get a chance. Thanks man.

Ky
 
Sliver, my dad shot a big 6 point that year off of Boulder with his LE archery tag and we have been looking for it every year since he shot it. We figured someone picked it up but my buddy sent me a message saying someone found a dead bull close to the time of when he shot it. Do you have any pictures of the bull that you found? He is willing to pay for it if it ends up being the bull he shot. Shoot me a text or call @ (801) 473-6886 when you get a chance. Thanks man.

Ky
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So I ticked off a bunch if members on another forum on a thread just like this one. When I questioned the fact that anybody cared about losing the meat on a bull found days after being arrowed, they hammered me. It was all about how great it was somebody else found the bull and the hunter would get the rack. I'm happy the guy found out whar happened to the bull. So, in this scenario, do you take the rack and be proud, or not? mtmuley
Nah, since the meat is spoiled you just keep hunting since it’s not about the antlers
 
If you're an archery hunter, odds are you're going to experience this at some point. One of my kids had something similar happen last year. This year he really isn't enthused about hunting. It can be a rough experience.
 
It Can & Does Happen With Any Weapon!

The Archers Take The Blunt For It Though!

IMO It Is One Of The Toughest Hunting Experiences/Feelings A Hunter Will Ever Endure!



If you're an archery hunter, odds are you're going to experience this at some point. One of my kids had something similar happen last year. This year he really isn't enthused about hunting. It can be a rough experience.
 

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