I guess I Don’t Get It!

Phantom Hunter

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Watching some YouTube videos, and reading quite a few forum posts I see many if not most guys hunting with “cans” on their rifles. I might could understand it from a noise reduction thing but I just don’t get toting those long barrrel rifles with an extra 6+ inches of “can” threaded on through the brush and timber.
 
Watching some YouTube videos, and reading quite a few forum posts I see many if not most guys hunting with “cans” on their rifles. I might could understand it from a noise reduction thing but I just don’t get toting those long barrrel rifles with an extra 6+ inches of “can” threaded on through the brush and timber.
I’m with you PH. I used them in Africa, (my outfitter had them.) my kids have them on various rifle/handguns. I don’t get it. Shooting one or standing next to someone shoot one, I can’t see much difference in sound reduction either.
 
I have several suppressors and I’ll never hunt with a hi powered rifle without one, unless I go to Canada or some other place that for some stupid reason they are illegal. Toting a full length rifle with a suppressor through the woods sucks. Which is why short barrels are becoming more popular.
 
A well-suppressed rifle is a joy to shoot in the field, but yes, a pain to haul around.

We make decisions on trade off all the time. I don’t personally own a suppressor, but have thought long and hard about it after shooting one. It’s the inconvenience of that vs the inconvenience of carrying hearing protection and getting it on before the shot. Or just blowing out your hearing, which is what I generally do.

Trade offs, we make em all the time, every day of our life! (Hunting or not)
 
I don’t have suppressors and never will. So my question is.. (help me understand the logic) 🤔

Why do people spend sh!t ton of money on a short barreled 300prc and suppress them, or any of the new fangle dangle flavor of the month cartridges just to handicap them velocity wise?

Why not just buy 24” barreled 308 or 7-08 or 260 or any of the many slooow lemons and forget the “can”. 😳
 
If I can shoot a rifle in the field without ear protection and not blow my ear drums out doing so, that’s a good thing.

Not getting into the ballistics of long vs short barrels, etc., just the noise component is the only factor in my mind.
 
I don’t have suppressors and never will. So my question is.. (help me understand the logic) 🤔

Why do people spend sh!t ton of money on a short barreled 300prc and suppress them, or any of the new fangle dangle flavor of the month cartridges just to handicap them velocity wise?

Why not just buy 24” barreled 308 or 7-08 or 260 or any of the many slooow lemons and forget the “can”. 😳
Depends on what you might consider handicapped. I’m having a 7PRC built right now that will have a 20 inch barrel, which will make it really nice to carry through the woods with a suppressor. This gun could easily kill an elk at 1000 yards, which is way farther than I care to shoot at one.
 
I don’t have suppressors and never will. So my question is.. (help me understand the logic) 🤔

Why do people spend sh!t ton of money on a short barreled 300prc and suppress them, or any of the new fangle dangle flavor of the month cartridges just to handicap them velocity wise?

Why not just buy 24” barreled 308 or 7-08 or 260 or any of the many slooow lemons and forget the “can”. 😳
How are they handicapped velocity wise?
 
You’re not losing anything. 20-24” barrels you may drop 100fps maybe? I built my 22 creed with an 18” barrel 6 1/2” twist. It’s shooting a 95gr smk 3000fps and I could care less. It’s accuracy that matters. Guys who wear flat brim hats get caught up in velocity. Killers know there’s not an animal in the planet that can out run a bullet
 
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Speed doesn’t matter much to me either as I sport a couple 10 1/2 SBR’s

So there, I’m not a flat brimmer or tuck my ears 🤣

Curious more than anything
 
Not knocking those going for speed, just saying there is a lot that goes into it.

Trade offs. That’s all it is. What matters the most? And what are you willing to give up to get it? Tough to have everything perfect in one package.
 
Wowza’s
26” tube would really fling those 180’s
You're absolutely right. But the simple truth is that short barrels aren't the castration that they're made out to be. I used to be firmly in the long barrel camp until I had real experience with shorter barrels.

I also used to think suppressors were a waste of time and money until I actually got a chance to use one vs listening to Fudds talk about em.
 
I rarely hunt without them anymore. 20+ years of hunting and 10 years of guiding has taken its toll on my ears and hearing. My main hunting rifle is a 7prc with a 20” barrel and a can. I’ve never noticed it being difficult to pack around and the noise/recoil reduction makes a suppressor well worth it for me. Yesterday I took my suppresses .22 out rabbit hunting. Between the suppressor and shooting subsonic rounds, I almost didn’t even realize the rifle had gone off until I saw the first rabbit flop. It’s a ton of fun to shoot and incredibly accurate.
 
Since losing probably 50% of my hearing in my left ear, I regret not using a can on all of my rifles. I saw comments earlier in the thread about calibers / magnums etc… I screwed my hearing shooting a .308 with a brake on it.
I am a passionate turkey hunter & I have realized the past 2 seasons how diminished hearing has affected me. Aside from struggling to decipher the direction a gobble came from, I struggle to stay engaged in conversations because I have a hard time understanding certain voice tones.
I’m only 52 & now have permanent hearing loss. From here on out, every rifle that I hunt with will be suppressed.
 
Since losing probably 50% of my hearing in my left ear, I regret not using a can on all of my rifles. I saw comments earlier in the thread about calibers / magnums etc… I screwed my hearing shooting a .308 with a brake on it.
I am a passionate turkey hunter & I have realized the past 2 seasons how diminished hearing has affected me. Aside from struggling to decipher the direction a gobble came from, I struggle to stay engaged in conversations because I have a hard time understanding certain voice tones.
I’m only 52 & now have permanent hearing loss. From here on out, every rifle that I hunt with will be suppressed.
Hope they saves what’s left of your hearing 3toe.
 
Hope they saves what’s left of your hearing 3toe.
I appreciate it. It’s honestly a little frustrating. I have worked in high decibel environments my entire career & always protected my hearing. I put that muzzle brake on that little.308 in an attempt to reduce the felt recoil to see if my grandson could hunt with it. I’m just glad he wasn’t in the stand with me when I learned my lesson.
 
A well-suppressed rifle is a joy to shoot in the field, but yes, a pain to haul around.

We make decisions on trade off all the time. I don’t personally own a suppressor, but have thought long and hard about it after shooting one. It’s the inconvenience of that vs the inconvenience of carrying hearing protection and getting it on before the shot. Or just blowing out your hearing, which is what I generally do.
Is This Why You Are A Little Hard Of Hearing & Listening?:D:D:D

Trade offs, we make em all the time, every day of our life! (Hunting or not)
 
I appreciate it. It’s honestly a little frustrating. I have worked in high decibel environments my entire career & always protected my hearing. I put that muzzle brake on that little.308 in an attempt to reduce the felt recoil to see if my grandson could hunt with it. I’m just glad he wasn’t in the stand with me when I learned my lesson.
I wanted to do a quick check on my Brown 300 Win with a factory muzzlebreak before a hunt, many years ago. Dropped the pickup tailgate down and threw a seat cushion down. Put the rifle across the pillow, leaned into the tail gate, took aim and pulled the trigger. The sound waves/shock from the discharge went out the side of the muzzle break, hit the back of the truck cab, bounced back and nearly deafed me. It was a full week before I felt normal again.

Stupid…… really stupid. Lucky!
 
Ear plugs don’t work anymore?
I had a pair hanging less than 2 feet from me.
A doe ran across my shooting lane with a buck hot on her tracks. He stopped in the middle of my lane… BOOM!!! The ear plugs were still hanging there when my left ear started ringing.
**** happens!!! Lol
 
Can’t own one in California or 7 other states. Need to watch driving through states with these types of restrictions.
You have to have your tax stamp / paperwork for your suppressor EVERYWHERE it goes.
When I walk out of the house with mine, I keep my stamp information inside my gun case.
FYI… Don’t let a friend “borrow” it.

A suppressor is yours for the rest of your life, unless you roll it into a trust. Then it can be transferred when you are gone.
 
I'm from California where if you do a google search for firearm suppressor you get put on a watch list, so I've never considered one. I always use hearing protection when target shooting, even with a .22LR but never while hunting. 99% of my hunting is with a shotgun and for some reason my hearing isn't too bad. We got tested twice a year at the sawmill where hearing protection was mandatory, and it always came back "some hearing loss" in my left ear. My wife insists hearing is not my problem, but listening is. No cure for that. :)
 
I'm from California where if you do a google search for firearm suppressor you get put on a watch list, so I've never considered one. I always use hearing protection when target shooting, even with a .22LR but never while hunting. 99% of my hunting is with a shotgun and for some reason my hearing isn't too bad. We got tested twice a year at the sawmill where hearing protection was mandatory, and it always came back "some hearing loss" in my left ear. My wife insists hearing is not my problem, but listening is. No cure for that. :)
Guess I am on the watch list now after looking up regulations in CA online. 🤣🤣
That’s how I found out it’s a felony to have one in your possession in CA.
 
Another thread that begs the question:

“How did dad and grandpa ever kill anything before the year 2000?”

Wear hearing protection on the shooting range. And I find it hard to believe that 5 shots a year while rifle hunting will make you go deaf.
 
Another thread that begs the question:

“How did dad and grandpa ever kill anything before the year 2000?”

Wear hearing protection on the shooting range. And I find it hard to believe that 5 shots a year while rifle hunting will make you go deaf.
I know how did my dad get almost completely deaf…Crazy how some folks want to protect their hearing with a tool that has nothing to do with harvest rates…
 
No wonder why you had that blank stare every time we talked last year… You couldn’t hear me… 😂
My wife says that I do that too.
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I was in the same camp. Hearing protection at the range but never while hunting. That worked for 30 plus years. Shooting at a game animal took away felt recoil and the noise. In 2021 I shot at a mule deer buck while prone on a sand dune. My left ear will never be the same. I just got my first suppressor. I have not shot the gun yet but I am sure it will help. I wish I had it on that sand dune.
 
I was in the same camp. Hearing protection at the range but never while hunting. That worked for 30 plus years. Shooting at a game animal took away felt recoil and the noise. In 2021 I shot at a mule deer buck while prone on a sand dune. My left ear will never be the same. I just got my first suppressor. I have not shot the gun yet but I am sure it will help. I wish I had it on that sand dune.
I have 2 myself now & waiting on a 3rd. You’ll be happy with your purchase.

I hope all is well with you & your wife.
 
Another thread that begs the question:

“How did dad and grandpa ever kill anything before the year 2000?”

My grandpa was a navigator in WWII. Flew on over 70 missions in the Pacific theater. That number and making it out alive is pretty remarkable. I’m sure he would have LOVED to have today’s technology in those engagements over what he was using. But I guess someone could still fly a B25 today if they wanted…

Wear hearing protection on the shooting range. And I find it hard to believe that 5 shots a year while rifle hunting will make you go deaf.

I always used to think this myself. Lately it is becoming apparent I should have used ear protection in the field all these years. Not just with my rifle, but shotguns as well. I think we’d all be surprised the unnecessary damage we’ve done.

I don’t even own one of these, but I’m convincing myself I need one.
 
You have to have your tax stamp / paperwork for your suppressor EVERYWHERE it goes.
When I walk out of the house with mine, I keep my stamp information inside my gun case.
FYI… Don’t let a friend “borrow” it.

A suppressor is yours for the rest of your life, unless you roll it into a trust. Then it can be transferred when you are gone.


But a cop can't ask for the tax stamp but a ATF agent can from what I understand. I could be wrong. Wyoming has one ATF agent so I never carry my stamp. It's somewhere on the phone though
 
😘The permits is what is irritating to me. Especially since it's for hearing protection. The feds treat it like it's a fricken ICBM.
Everyone watched too many movies. Absolutely no reason to have register or ask permission for a suppressor. I can’t hear anything out of my left ear. Wish i would have screwed one on the barrel a long time ago

I also find it really funny the guys in here that actually seem offended suppressors are a thing. That’s really strange hill. I won’t predator hunt without one. Really want to get worked up? My next rifle build is a suppressed thermal rig 😘
 
I guess I’m glad I went deaf at that Ted Nugent concert in 1979.
I’ve never gone to a heavy duty concert but I thought I was going to go deaf after setting under a set of loudspeakers at a Ducks Unlimited Banquet at the Town Hall in Annabelle, Utah, twenty years ago years ago.
 
What nobody talks enough about is the recoil reduction a GOOD suppressor gives you. And yes... good suppressors reduce the noise by a bunch but to support the above comments, I have been around suppressors that didn't reduce the noise by nearly as much as the Banish. This is the first year I've used one. I didn't think I would ever get one either, but as easy as they are to get now, I decided to try one. I got the Banish 30 from Silencer Central and it is awesome. I got mine (trust) a few days short of 4 months from the purchase date. My wife shot her buck with it attached to my (hers now) Howa Carbon 6.5 Creedmoor. Being able to hear the bullet hit that much better was pretty cool. My wife said she never wants to shoot a gun without one.


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That said, I did carry that set up through some thick oak and timber elk hunting this year and they definitely take some getting used to to negotiate. So worth it.... I have some really nice rifles that aren't threaded and they hardly even get thought of anymore......

Todd
 
I drug my feet for a while getting one. I am in the group that will never hunt without one if at all possible. It is just better, less felt recoil, less noise, by far and less bothersome to your buddy next to you.
I own a few now and won't go back. I too am pretty deaf in my left ear and wish I would have used one years and years ago.
 
The suppressor hate on this thread is puzzling why are guys so butt hurt about them? I love all of mine especially hunting with my kids its so nice to sit next to them and talk them through the shot without having to worry about my ear drums getting blown out. The reduction in recoil is also awesome both my kids .308s kick like a .223 and are super quiet.
 
The permits is what is irritating to me. Especially since it's for hearing protection. The feds treat it like it's a fricken ICBM.
I always figured switching suppressor permits for AR-15 permits would be something the gun control crowd could probably get behind.

There's no reason to have a permit for a suppressor IMO, they're less dangerous than most of the stuff at Home Depot.
 
I use the can every morning. ;) And, I started using Walker's ear muffs the last several years due to the permanent ringing in the ears, but hate that they seem to make me the loudest hunter on earth.

As of the last month, I started carrying the around-the-neck foam ear plugs that the cool kids use so I don't crimp my hunting style (Trump hat). Problem solved.

Since I'm in Cali--yeah, no can for me.
 
In a State that’s elected officials are so bound and determined to care for the well being of everybody, from cradle to grave, what is their rational for denying people the opportunity to protect their hearing health.

Would it not be more like California to “require” a suppressors on all fire arms?

Does the written law that outlaws a suppressor explain the reasons for the restriction?

Seems backasswards.
 
I love hunting with a can. I run a TBAC Ultra 7 on my 7mm SAUM. 22 inch barrel. Removed the brake (made it very loud) so I'm only adding about 3 inches overall. It doesn't add much weight. I love how it dampens recoil. Nothing better than hearing the hit while suppressed :cool:
 
In a State that’s elected officials are so bound and determined to care for the well being of everybody, from cradle to grave, what is their rational for denying people the opportunity to protect their hearing health.

Would it not be more like California to “require” a suppressors on all fire arms?

Does the written law that outlaws a suppressor explain the reasons for the restriction?

Seems backasswards.
I'm not a liberal progressive so this is partly just a guess.

1. A "silencer" makes it easier for a criminal to go undetected. They saw a Hollywood movie where that actually happened. On another Hollwood movie they saw a bad guy pull a sawed off shotgun out from under his coat, so they banned those too.

2. If you own and shoot a gun you deserve to go deaf. This could be the biggest reason.
 

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