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Loser! Chilling warning from one-time Trump ally Geraldo Rivera as he backs Harris

MSNBC’s Ari Melber is joined by legendary TV Journalist Geraldo Rivera to discuss his endorsement for Kamala Harris, Donald Trump and the latest in the 2024 election. (The Beat's YouTube playlist: https://msnbc.com/ari Ari: www.youtube.com/arimelber Beat merch: www.msnbc.com/Beat5)
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I know Geraldo was pretty cool several years ago, BUT I wouldn’t listen to Geraldo NOW…..BUT I’d really trust the word of a Marine General, like John Kelly, not a media slut like Geraldo. I think Kelly used the “fascist” word…..

Can’t wait for the responses. I’m sure that everyone inclined to comment knows WAY more than Kelly.
 
Yeah, he said orange man bad.

I’m sure that a rookie has a better grasp on this than Kelly. Please continue…,impress us with your military knowledge and let us know why Kelly shouldn’t be trusted….. I don’t really care much about Geraldo.

And remember, Trump brought Kelly into his admin.

I know…. I’m sure Kelly’s getting paid…..
 
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NMFROM81 said:
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Loser! Chilling warning from one-time Trump ally Geraldo Rivera as he backs Harris

MSNBC’s Ari Melber is joined by legendary TV Journalist Geraldo Rivera to discuss his endorsement for Kamala Harris, Donald Trump and the latest in the 2024 election. (The Beat's YouTube playlist: https://msnbc.com/ari Ari: www.youtube.com/arimelber Beat merch: www.msnbc.com/Beat5)
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I know Geraldo was pretty cool several years ago, BUT I wouldn’t listen to Geraldo NOW…..BUT I’d really trust the word of a Marine General, like John Kelly, not a media slut like Geraldo. I think Kelly used the “fascist” word…..

Can’t wait for the responses. I’m sure that everyone inclined to comment knows WAY more than Kelly.
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I really question "why now" did General Kelly come out and make these accusations.
If you can give me any examples of anything that Trump did that you can consider him being a fascist, then we can have a discussion, but I really could care less what General Kelly says about Trump being a fascist. General Jelly was a hero in his own right but that does not make his word gospel.
 
And Kamela sucked the 🐓 of a married man that was 30yrs older than her to get a job?
Put 1000's of black men in jail for possession of weed and laughed that she smoked it?
Advocated for planned parenthood to illegally selling aborted babies?
Advocates late term/ after live birth abortions?

Lies everytime she opens her mouth?
 
notdonhunting said:
I really question "why now" did General Kelly come out and make these accusations.
If you can give me any examples of anything that Trump did that you can consider him being a fascist, then we can have a discussion, but I really could care less what General Kelly says about Trump being a fascist. General Jelly was a hero in his own right but that does not make his word gospel.
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Sure Notdon…...Kelly seems like a really un-honorable kinda man.

I’m sure he’s lying, just like Geraldo.

I’d believe Trump over Kelly and Geraldo combined!!….if I was an idiot.
 
treedagain said:
And Kamela sucked the 🐓 of a married man that was 30yrs older than her to get a job?
Put 1000's of black men in jail for possession of weed and laughed that she smoked it?
Advocated for planned parenthood to illegally selling aborted babies?
Advocates late term/ after live birth abortions?

Lies everytime she opens her mouth?
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Treed, your a fuggin idiot, we know that bc you couldn’t pass 6th grade.

You implying adultry is disqualifying?….you shouldn’t answer that….if you were smart.

I’m sure you’ll respond.
 
NMFROM81 said:
Treed, your a fuggin idiot, we know that bc you couldn’t pass 6th grade.

You implying adultry is disqualifying?….you shouldn’t answer that….if you were smart.

I’m sure you’ll respond.
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NMFROM81 said:
Sure Notdon…...Kelly seems like a really un-honorable kinda man.

I’m sure he’s lying, just like Geraldo.

I’d believe Trump over Kelly and Geraldo combined!!….if I was an idiot.
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Geraldo the man that profit off of lies and people's misfortune, he has no honor.
As for General Kelly timing is everything.
And let's be honest no one gives a rats A$$ what General Kelly or Geraldo thinks, does anyone under the age of 60 even know who Getaldo is.
There is four issues that matter to the voting public and Kamala only wins on one.
Kamala has already lost, now only time will tell if they allow Trump's victory.
You have not gave me any examples of Trump being a fascist.
At least give a January 6th rant.🤪
I will continue to waite because no one ever answers.
 
notdonhunting said:
Geraldo the man that profit off of lies and people's misfortune, he has no honor.
As for General Kelly timing is everything.
And let's be honest no one gives a rats A$$ what General Kelly or Geraldo thinks, does anyone under the age of 60 even know who Getaldo is.
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Oh, this is about honor? Good thing Trumps full of that stuff…..

I didn’t place Geraldo on a pedestal, even said I didn’t care much about him on post #3. But his flip on Trump sure isn’t unique, except its usually former members of his administration that come out against him, Geraldo was just a friend. I’m sure he turned for the money and fame.

This bashing on Kelly is pretty funny to watch……Apparently he was a really good guy (probably one of the bestest ever) when Trump picked him for the job. And now you say nobody gives a rats ass what a US General thinks?…… That’s a pretty ignorant comment right there.

You must be right, I’m sure Kelly spoke out for the money and fame too. Just like Geraldo and everyone else. I must’ve forgot how we always see administrations turn against presidents after the term is up….this really isn’t noteworthy.
 
NMFROM81 said:
Oh, this is about honor? Good thing Trumps full of that stuff…..

I didn’t place Geraldo on a pedestal, even said I didn’t care much about him on post #3. But his flip on Trump sure isn’t unique, except its usually former members of his administration that come out against him, Geraldo was just a friend. I’m sure he turned for the money and fame.

This bashing on Kelly is pretty funny to watch……Apparently he was a really good guy (probably one of the bestest ever) when Trump picked him for the job. And now you say nobody gives a rats ass what a US General thinks?…… That’s a pretty ignorant comment right there.

You must be right, I’m sure Kelly spoke out for the money and fame too. Just like Geraldo and everyone else. I must’ve forgot how we always see administrations turn against presidents after the term is up….this really isn’t noteworthy.
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Still waiting, you have nothing!
 
What? Some person who has a history with Trump but was fired, comes out just weeks before the end of an election, and has bad things to say about the person who fired him????? Wow! That, like, never happens. Holy cow, we better really listen to what Kelly says. Matter of fact, I’ll probably change my vote now. GFY

YGTBFKM, seriously?
 
NMFROM81 said:
Pretty obvious to me you’re dumb enough to buy into the whole conspiracy.


Sorry ol’ man, I’ll only argue with stupidity for so long.
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Pretty obvious to me you’re dumb enough to think what Kelly says matters at all and is nothing more than a stunt.

Oh, btw, there were 51 “intelligence” officers who we were supposed to listen to as well.

I can see why you’re a Kamala supporter
 
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Treed, your a fuggin idiot, we know that bc you couldn’t pass 6th grade.

You implying adultry is disqualifying?….you shouldn’t answer that….if you were smart.

I’m sure you’ll respond.
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Just another anonymous keyboard warrior, sitting safe and sound in his moms basement.

Troll away.

Name one thing I wrote that is wrong?

Let's just add your current president showers with his daughter. Has a serious hair sniffing issue. Hunter is the smartest guy he knows? Just another brain dead Democrat. Just like you.

Troll away blue boy.
 
Flyjunky12 said:
Pretty obvious to me you’re dumb enough to think what Kelly says matters at all and is nothing more than a stunt.

Oh, btw, there were 51 “intelligence” officers who we were supposed to listen to as well.

I can see why you’re a Kamala supporter
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Yup, those Marine Corps Generals tend to be really immoral characters…..always out for money and fame. Was probably his end-goal to smear an ex-president when he joined the Marines years ago.

Fly, I’ve categorized you as a conspiratorialist too. I won’t argue with you…..you got it figured out.
 
treedagain said:
Just another anonymous keyboard warrior, sitting safe and sound in his moms basement.

Troll away.

Name one thing I wrote that is wrong?
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Uh, that was easy.
treedagain said:
Advocates late term/ after live birth abortions?
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There’s another word for “after birth abortion”…..it’s called “murder”, or more specifically “infanticide”. Now that’s a big word for a 6th grader to throw on the vocabulary list.

Nobody’s advocating to legalize murder.

Yup, you’re a fuggin idiot.
 
NMFROM81 said:
Yup, those Marine Corps Generals tend to be really immoral characters…..always out for money and fame. Was probably his end-goal to smear an ex-president when he joined the Marines years ago.

Fly, I’ve categorized you as a conspiratorialist too. I won’t argue with you…..you got it figured out.
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Yeah, there’s absolutely no way a marine corps general would say anything political, nah, would never happen. Those military generals are, without a doubt, irreproachable……Milley, cough cough.

Like I said above, just like those 51 intelligence officers. You know, which included how many former directors?

It was asked a few times and I’ll repeat…provide examples of Trump’s fascism.
 
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NMFROM81 said:
Uh, that was easy.

There’s another word for “after birth abortion”…..it’s called “murder”, or more specifically “infanticide”. Now that’s a big word for a 6th grader to throw on the vocabulary list.

Nobody’s advocating to legalize murder.

Yup, you’re a fuggin idiot.
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Hello Buzz, are you not hunting little sheep right now? Or is your shoulder still sore?
 
NMFROM81 said:
Uh, that was easy.

There’s another word for “after birth abortion”…..it’s called “murder”, or more specifically “infanticide”. Now that’s a big word for a 6th grader to throw on the vocabulary list.

Nobody’s advocating to legalize murder.

Yup, you’re a fuggin idiot.
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Kelly works for Caliburn Intl. & sits on their board. Just another in a long list of former retired generals working for vendors of the forever war machine & military industrial complex. Who else sits on the Caliburn board? Former DNI & head of the CIA the infamous pos Michael Hayden. Can't have their forever war machine gravy train disrupted. Should at least raise some eyebrows if nothing else.

You have to respect his service & sacrifice to the country but once they reach that level they become part of the machine.

This guy says he never saw what Kelly said.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1849178661259264469
 
Haaaaahaaaa, look who was touting the Kelly narrative…….John Brennan!

@NMFROM81, Brennan? No joke, fk’n Brennan.

What did I say above about the 51?

I seriously can’t stop laughing
 
Oh, I trust that Kelly believes what he says. The problem is that folks LOVE labels and when they don't like someone, they fall into severe Narrative Bias. Kelly surely doesn't like Trump, and he also misses all that attention. So, like all other "former" important somebodies, they seek it out- and he's getting it from leftist lunatics.

AND, in fairness, conservatives do it too. But this crap of calling Trump "Hitler" and "Fascist" is a bridge too far. It's making crazies try to assassinate him.
 
NMFROM81 said:
Yup, your a friggin idiot.

Withholding life supporting care to a non-viable infant is NOT abortion. I'm sure that's confusing to you.
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Laffin. With your 2nd grade education it's hard to read big words. Eat that Troll. 3 perished in 2019 without life saving care. Born alive....let die
Troll away dipshit.
5 in 2021....born alive and let die.
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The problem is all these Generals & pentagon higher ups are never held to account for their failures. Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya. They fail up, get promoted and more medals added to their uniforms. They never get fired or demoted. We used to fire generals hand over fist when they failed. These guys get high paying lobbying jobs and board seats for the defense industry.

The outfit Kelly works for now Acuity International, formerly Caliburn currently has contracts in Ukraine. Austin just awarded another $400 million for Ukraine aid a few days ago via the PDA (Presidential Drawdown Authority)

Follow the money has alway been a solid guide to follow. They are nervous that if elected Trump will force a negotiation to end the war, curtailing their govt. cheese. With Musk & Howard Lutnick (CEO of Cantor Fitzgerald) and other business leaders involved with govt. cost cutting, it probably makes them really nervous that maybe all this crap gets a real audit. Remember that the pentagon failed its 6th audit in a row last year and can't account for $4 Trillion in assets.
 
treedagain said:
Laffin. With your 2nd grade education it's hard to read big words. Eat that Troll. 3 perished in 2019 without life saving care. Born alive....let die
Troll away dipshit.
5 in 2021....born alive and let die.
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I had an extensive response written and then came to my senses….having an argument with a 6th grade equivalent will never end.

I’m not gonna discuss “after birth abortion” with a moron. The term is used to mislead the gullible and is non-sensical at its core. Abortion is defined as a termination of pregnancy…. can’t do that after birth. At that point, a more accurate term is something along the lines of withholding care. “After birth abortion” is preferred because it sounds more like murder…..has more emotional effect.

Unfortunately, gut-wrenching decisions need to be made in some instances. I’m not in support of voters dictating that call for others.
 
Come on
NMFROM81 said:
I had an extensive response written and then came to my senses….having an argument with a 6th grade equivalent will never end.

I’m not gonna discuss “after birth abortion” with a moron. The term is used to mislead the gullible and is non-sensical at its core. Abortion is defined as a termination of pregnancy…. can’t do that after birth. At that point, a more accurate term is something along the lines of withholding care. “After birth abortion” is preferred because it sounds more like murder…..has more emotional effect.

Unfortunately, gut-wrenching decisions need to be made in some instances. I’m not in support of voters dictating that call for others.
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Yep the CDC is a liar? Minnesota department of health records is a liar?
Go cry to your white men for Kamela group.

Crawl back under your rock dip ****.

Yep it is gut wrenching to watch a baby die and do nothing about it.

Your mother made a brave choice birthing you with obvious birth defects.
 
NMFROM81 said:
Both sides lie……, but Trump is exceptionally good at it.

And yeah, I think John Kelly told it as he saw it. I don’t think he was paid off by the libs.
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Just another internet warrior sitting safe in his mother's basement. Spewing garbage safe and sound. Another picked on loser that hates the world because they see him weak and pathetic.

Waiting for your sad excuse of a reply. Try taking your meds before answering so it is at least semi coherent.
 
treedagain said:
Just another internet warrior sitting safe in his mother's basement. Spewing garbage safe and sound. Another picked on loser that hates the world because they see him weak and pathetic.

Waiting for your sad excuse of a reply. Try taking your meds before answering so it is at least semi coherent.
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Back to 6th grade insults again I see.

I’m gonna refrain…. I grew up a long time ago.
 
NMFROM81 said:
Back to 6th grade insults again I see.

I’m gonna refrain…. I grew up a long time ago.
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Just another way of saying....Mr Treed, I am sorry to have been a dumbass. I can now see the light.

Grow up? Yes you do. Come out of the basement and get some sunlight.
Try hunting if your sensitive stomach can handle. Might need someone do the gutting because blood makes you queasy.
 
treedagain said:
Just another way of saying....Mr Treed, I am sorry to have been a dumbass. I can now see the light.

Grow up? Yes you do. Come out of the basement and get some sunlight.
Try hunting if your sensitive stomach can handle. Might need someone do the gutting because blood makes you queasy.
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It’s refreshing to take a 6th grade equivalent hunting insult from you so I’ll respond to that.

Odds are fair that I’ve killed more bulls than you this year….killed a bull on the 1st archery season. Also fair that I’ve quartered and packed more bulls than you this year….mine plus my bro/in/laws.

And I don’t gut them anymore, it’s kinda dumb to gut one a couple miles in and try to drag it out…..seems right up your alley though.
 
NMFROM81 said:
It’s refreshing to take a 6th grade equivalent hunting insult from you so I’ll respond to that.

Odds are fair that I’ve killed more bulls than you this year….killed a bull on the 1st archery season. Also fair that I’ve quartered and packed more bulls than you this year….mine plus my bro/in/laws.

And I don’t gut them anymore, it’s kinda dumb to gut one a couple miles in and try to drag it out…..seems right up your alley though.
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Odds (99.99999) are that I have killed more 6pt or better bulls, mtn goats, Desert Rams, Moose, Caribou, antelope, Mule deer, whitetails, hogs, alligators, Buffalo, Bears, treed more lions, bobcats, raccoons.

Shot more pheasants, quail, chukars, huns, sage grouse, sharpies over wirehairs, shorthairs, vizlas,vilzlas, setters and pointers.

I don't fish anymore so you have that. And waterfowl.

So if you shot 1 bull this year, you win. But the last bull I shot was a 370....yours?
 
eelgrass said:
JD Vance on Kelly.

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This Kelly nonsense doesn't pass the smell test.

Like every question reporters ask Kamala, you've been in office for the last 4 years, why didn't you secure the border during that time? You've been in office for the last 4 years... why didn't you take steps to fix etc. etc. etc. (insert here) it?

Similarly, if Trump is going to be such a Hitlerian dictator now... why wasn't he Hitler during his 1st term? Why didn't he lock Hillary up? etc. etc.

If Kelly thought Trump was actually a Hitler monster, why wait years or until two weeks before the election to mention it? Wouldn't you take steps to take that monster out? Oh snap....

Not buying it
 
NMFROM81 said:
It’s refreshing to take a 6th grade equivalent hunting insult from you so I’ll respond to that.

Odds are fair that I’ve killed more bulls than you this year….killed a bull on the 1st archery season. Also fair that I’ve quartered and packed more bulls than you this year….mine plus my bro/in/laws.

And I don’t gut them anymore, it’s kinda dumb to gut one a couple miles in and try to drag it out…..seems right up your alley though.
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Really, that’s your argument? Lmmfao you’re a bad azzz… can I get your autograph?
 
Tikka said:
Really, that’s your argument? Lmmfao you’re a bad azzz… can I get your autograph?
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Hey dumbass, I not saying I’m a badazz.
BTW, are you afraid to use the “ass” word?

I’m simply responding to Trees implication that I don’t hunt and never get out hunting because I’m stuck in moms basement. So his first implication was false…..fortunate to do a lot of hunting this year, got more ahead too.

Also responding to the playground insult that I’m afraid to do the “gutting” bc blood makes me “queasy”. I stated that I’ve packed out 2 elk this year, but that only a dumass would gut them because they’re not getting back to the truck without getting quartered. “Gutting” is pointless in this situation, unless you just wanted to see guts. This debunked his 2nd accusation that I’m afraid of blood. Possibly exposed him as limited to road hunting because he thinks you only get blood on your hand from “gutting” everything and dragging it to the truck.

It’s not bragging, it’s calling stupid comments out for what they are….retarded. Of course, like a 6th grader, he’s now named off every critter he’s killed and is engaging another childish contest. I’m not going down that road…..arguments never end with children and I’m calling this one like I have others.

You seem dumb enough to mistake that for bragging and me thinking I’m autograph worthy. If I was bragging I’d name off everything I ever killed and how big they were. That’s bragging dumbass.

So if it’s autographs you really want Tikka, you should honestly check with Tree. I doubt he’s ever been so honored in his life, will probably have a grip and grin signed and mailed to you in a couple minutes.
 
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NMFROM81- are you aware that the Dems have labeled every single republican president/nominee since the 60s as fascists and Hitler? Every single one. Even Romney got the treatment! Here's a link describing each president's reception from the enlightened left:

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Reductio ad Hitlerum: 60 years of Democrats falsely calling the Republican nominee a fascist - Washington Examiner

Democrats have been falsely labeling the Republican presidential candidate a fascist for 60 years. It’s an integral part of their political playbook.
www.washingtonexaminer.com www.washingtonexaminer.com

So, when once again, the left smears the right as being fascist Hitler wannabes, you'll have to excuse the massive eyeroll from the right.
 
wetmule said:
This Kelly nonsense doesn't pass the smell test.

Like every question reporters ask Kamala, you've been in office for the last 4 years, why didn't you secure the border during that time? You've been in office for the last 4 years... why didn't you take steps to fix etc. etc. etc. (insert here) it?

Similarly, if Trump is going to be such a Hitlerian dictator now... why wasn't he Hitler during his 1st term? Why didn't he lock Hillary up? etc. etc.

If Kelly thought Trump was actually a Hitler monster, why wait years or until two weeks before the election to mention it? Wouldn't you take steps to take that monster out? Oh snap....

Not buying it
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It always has and continues to boil down to this:

Biden, and now Harris, can’t run on policy. Remember the DNC? It was all about vibes, where did that slogan go?

It’s why she literally can’t answer a single question on anything that matters to policy, what she’d do to fix any of the problems facing our country ( they caused ), or why she can’t go off script.

For 4 years Biden was told to only call on certain reporters, could only say certain things (or he’d get in trouble), and rarely did interviews compared to his predecessors. ****, he hadn’t even met with his cabinet for over a year!! During this time Kamala was virtually non-existent. All of this coddling is showing up now because the left has lost the ability to control the narrative and the people see it. Kamala’s word salads are because 1. She’s an absolute idiot, 2. The left has never been pushed and attacked by the media.

They won’t admit but the left knows they are running the absolute worst candidate but they are hoping the American public is too stupid to see it. Unfortunately, it’s plainly obvious many in this country will fall for it.

To answer the question on using the old, tired, Hitler phrase…..it’s all they have. Scare tactics and name calling are how the dems always have and always will operate. They’ve done it forever.
 
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NMFROM81- are you aware that the Dems have labeled every single republican president/nominee since the 60s as fascists and Hitler? Every single one. Even Romney got the treatment! Here's a link describing each president's reception from the enlightened left:

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Reductio ad Hitlerum: 60 years of Democrats falsely calling the Republican nominee a fascist - Washington Examiner

Democrats have been falsely labeling the Republican presidential candidate a fascist for 60 years. It’s an integral part of their political playbook.
www.washingtonexaminer.com www.washingtonexaminer.com

So, when once again, the left smears the right as being fascist Hitler wannabes, you'll have to excuse the massive eyeroll from the right.
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You can’t bring facts to anyone on the left, they only respond to emotion and vibes.
 
HikeHunt61 said:
NMFROM81- are you aware that the Dems have labeled every single republican president/nominee since the 60s as fascists and Hitler? Every single one. Even Romney got the treatment! Here's a link describing each president's reception from the enlightened left:

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Reductio ad Hitlerum: 60 years of Democrats falsely calling the Republican nominee a fascist - Washington Examiner

Democrats have been falsely labeling the Republican presidential candidate a fascist for 60 years. It’s an integral part of their political playbook.
www.washingtonexaminer.com www.washingtonexaminer.com

So, when once again, the left smears the right as being fascist Hitler wannabes, you'll have to excuse the massive eyeroll from the right.
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Please, don’t give me that crap that Republicans are victims in this name calling game they all play.

Collectively they ALL smear and label each other. BUT I didn’t know the 60 year history of Hitler/fascist accusations, thanks for sharing that. Definite proof of victimhood if you want to read it that way Hike.
 
NMFROM81 said:
Hey dumbass, I not saying I’m a badazz.
BTW, are you afraid to use the “ass” word?

I’m simply responding to Trees implication that I don’t hunt and never get out hunting because I’m stuck in moms basement. So his first implication was false…..fortunate to do a lot of hunting this year, got more ahead too.

Also responding to the playground insult that I’m afraid to do the “gutting” bc blood makes me “queasy”. I stated that I’ve packed out 2 elk this year, but that only a dumass would gut them because they’re not getting back to the truck without getting quartered. “Gutting” is pointless in this situation, unless you just wanted to see guts. This debunked his 2nd accusation that I’m afraid of blood. Possibly exposed him as limited to road hunting because he thinks you only get blood on your hand from “gutting” everything and dragging it to the truck.

It’s not bragging, it’s calling stupid comments out for what they are….retarded. Of course, like a 6th grader, he’s now named off every critter he’s killed and is engaging another childish contest. I’m not going down that road…..arguments never end with children and I’m calling this one like I have others.

You seem dumb enough to mistake that for bragging and me thinking I’m autograph worthy. If I was bragging I’d name off everything I ever killed and how big they were. That’s bragging dumbass.

So if it’s autographs you really want Tikka, you should honestly check with Tree. I doubt he’s ever been so honored in his life, will probably have a grip and grin signed and mailed to you in a couple minutes.
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Very impressive....2 elk in 1 year. We did 3 in 1 day. Bragging? Your the one that spot lighted 2 elk in a year like you was superman. More like the joker. Contest? If you had it, you would show it. 2 elk is just a normal yr for most.
Debunked? Odds are you have never gutted, quartered or touched a elk, grilling a burger does not count.

I think your a Democrat operative mole. You pop in, stir the pot and then go back and report to central command. Debunk that.
 
NMFROM81 said:
Please, don’t give me that crap that Republicans are victims in this name calling game they all play.

Collectively they ALL smear and label each other. BUT I didn’t know the 60 year history of Hitler/fascist accusations, thanks for sharing that. Definite proof of victimhood if you want to read it that way Hike.
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That's silly- you claiming I'm playing the victim card. I already agreed both sides do it.

What I'm clearly saying is that it's not different this time than the last dozen times. Trump is no more likely to turn into Hitler than Reagan was. That's how I read it.
 
HikeHunt61 said:
NMFROM81- are you aware that the Dems have labeled every single republican president/nominee since the 60s as fascists and Hitler? Every single one. Even Romney got the treatment! Here's a link describing each president's reception from the enlightened left:

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Reductio ad Hitlerum: 60 years of Democrats falsely calling the Republican nominee a fascist - Washington Examiner

Democrats have been falsely labeling the Republican presidential candidate a fascist for 60 years. It’s an integral part of their political playbook.
www.washingtonexaminer.com www.washingtonexaminer.com

So, when once again, the left smears the right as being fascist Hitler wannabes, you'll have to excuse the massive eyeroll from the right.
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Goes back even further. They called Eisenhower a Nazi when he brought in the 101st Airborne to protect the Little Rock 9 when Democrats wanted to keep schools segregated. But he was the racist & Nazi 🤔
 
treedagain said:
Very impressive....2 elk in 1 year. We did 3 in 1 day. Bragging? Your the one that spot lighted 2 elk in a year like you was superman. More like the joker. Contest? If you had it, you would show it. 2 elk is just a normal yr for most.
Debunked? Odds are you have never gutted, quartered or touched a elk, grilling a burger does not count.

I think your a Democrat operative mole. You pop in, stir the pot and then go back and report to central command. Debunk that.
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Believe me Tree, I feel absolutely ZERO obligation to prove anything to a moron.

Get back to me when you can proudly post your 6th grade diploma. Then we can argue.
 
HikeHunt61 said:
That's silly- you claiming I'm playing the victim card. I already agreed both sides do it.

What I'm clearly saying is that it's not different this time than the last dozen times. Trump is no more likely to turn into Hitler than Reagan was. That's how I read it.
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If that’s how you honestly meant it, then I’ll apologize for the mis-interpretation.
HikeHunt61 said:
NMFROM81- are you aware that the Dems have labeled every single republican president/nominee since the 60s as fascists and Hitler? Every single one. Even Romney got the treatment! Here's a link describing each president's reception from the enlightened left:

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Reductio ad Hitlerum: 60 years of Democrats falsely calling the Republican nominee a fascist - Washington Examiner

Democrats have been falsely labeling the Republican presidential candidate a fascist for 60 years. It’s an integral part of their political playbook.
www.washingtonexaminer.com www.washingtonexaminer.com

So, when once again, the left smears the right as being fascist Hitler wannabes, you'll have to excuse the massive eyeroll from the right.
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BUT I do think it’s understandable that I can read into what you wrote as whining that Republicans have been called names for 60 years. I don’t see anything above where you concede both sides play that game.
 
Flyjunky12 said:
It always has and continues to boil down to this:

Biden, and now Harris, can’t run on policy. Remember the DNC? It was all about vibes, where did that slogan go?

It’s why she literally can’t answer a single question on anything that matters to policy, what she’d do to fix any of the problems facing our country ( they caused ), or why she can’t go off script.

For 4 years Biden was told to only call on certain reporters, could only say certain things (or he’d get in trouble), and rarely did interviews compared to his predecessors. ****, he hadn’t even met with his cabinet for over a year!! During this time Kamala was virtually non-existent. All of this coddling is showing up now because the left has lost the ability to control the narrative and the people see it. Kamala’s word salads are because 1. She’s an absolute idiot, 2. The left has never been pushed and attacked by the media.

They won’t admit but the left knows they are running the absolute worst candidate but they are hoping the American public is too stupid to see it. Unfortunately, it’s plainly obvious many in this country will fall for it.

To answer the question on using the old, tired, Hitler phrase…..it’s all they have. Scare tactics and name calling are how the dems always have and always will operate. They’ve done it forever.
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That CNN townhall should have been the coup de grace. She literally answered every single question with a non answer word salad. She's either hiding her agenda or as Mel Gibson recently said she's dumber than a fence post. It's both.
 
wetmule said:
That CNN townhall should have been the coup de grace. She literally answered every single question with a non answer word salad. She's either hiding her agenda or as Mel Gibson recently said she's dumber than a fence post. It's both.
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She was not picked as vp for any other reason than her race and gender. She is the crowning example of why dei is a cancer.
 
NMFROM81 said:
If that’s how you honestly meant it, then I’ll apologize for the mis-interpretation.

BUT I do think it’s understandable that I can read into what you wrote as whining that Republicans have been called names for 60 years. I don’t see anything above where you concede both sides play that game.
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Post 34- second paragraph.
HikeHunt61 said:
Oh, I trust that Kelly believes what he says. The problem is that folks LOVE labels and when they don't like someone, they fall into severe Narrative Bias. Kelly surely doesn't like Trump, and he also misses all that attention. So, like all other "former" important somebodies, they seek it out- and he's getting it from leftist lunatics.

AND, in fairness, conservatives do it too. But this crap of calling Trump "Hitler" and "Fascist" is a bridge too far. It's making crazies try to assassinate him.
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Slinging mud is par for both sides as I stated earlier. Hitler was the most evil person in history though, that IS too much- and if you want to call it "victim card"- it's your choice. But it doesn't change the fact that it's the worst slur imaginable, and I do believe it's bringing the crazies out.

And...

The irony is that people read it that way- they know how ridiculous it is. Every time the left does it, another 100,000 people flip to Trump. Look at the polls as they shift his way. When you go too far, people get it and realize that the side saying it doesn't have a good argument for themselves.
 
NMFROM81 said:
Believe me Tree, I feel absolutely ZERO obligation to prove anything to a moron.

Get back to me when you can proudly post your 6th grade diploma. Then we can argue.
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Slither back down to your basement. You spend almost 100% of your time here in the political forum stirring up ****. Like I said most likely your a democratic operative. You don't hunt, you remind me of Walz trying to load his shotgun. Pathetic wannabe.

BTW I am very proud of my 6th grade education which is far more than you could ever hope for.

2 elk? I shot 2 in one day in WY 2 years ago, 6pt and a cow. So in 1 day I topped your whole "hunting " career.
 
HikeHunt61 said:
Post 34- second paragraph.


Slinging mud is par for both sides as I stated earlier. Hitler was the most evil person in history though, that IS too much- and if you want to call it "victim card"- it's your choice.
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He was born with a victim card. That's part of the Democrats starter pack.
Just the normal, accuse the other side of something you have done to shift the blame and fit your narrative.
 
HikeHunt61 said:
Post 34- second paragraph.


Slinging mud is par for both sides as I stated earlier. Hitler was the most evil person in history though, that IS too much- and if you want to call it "victim card"- it's your choice. But it doesn't change the fact that it's the worst slur imaginable, and I do believe it's bringing the crazies out.

And...

The irony is that people read it that way- they know how ridiculous it is. Every time the left does it, another 100,000 people flip to Trump. Look at the polls as they shift his way. When you go too far, people get it and realize that the side saying it doesn't have a good argument for themselves.
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Apologies again, you did concede both sides are at it…..I did not review the thread before responding to your most recent post.

Yeah, over-exaggeration surely loses people. Also something both sides do…..according to Trump we should be in a 1929 recession with Biden at the helm.
 
The Washington Post & LA Times just announced that they won't be endorsing any presidential candidate this cycle. Both papers have endorsed every Dem candidate for the last 35+ years. LOL

You'd think if the Dem nominee was facing off against an actual HITLER... wtf? It's almost as if everyone, even two of the most garbage leftist newspapers on the planet know it's all Bull :poop:
 
NMFROM81 said:
Yeah, over-exaggeration surely loses people. Also something both sides do…..according to Trump we should be in a 1929 recession with Biden at the helm.
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It’s beyond the pale to say those two insults are comparable. My point is, they are dangerously different.

If one really believed that the likely president of the US was a Hitler-Fascist, they would be well justified in risking their own life to end what they really believed was the coming genocide, systemic imprisoning of entire classes of people, and the beginning of World War III.

On the other hand, if one really believed that a big recession was the fault of a president, they would be pissed off and do everything they can to vote them out of office.

And I get that 99.99% of people realize that the liberals' stating Trump is a Hitler-Fascist don’t really believe that. But your OP original post leans into the .01%:

"BUT I’d really trust the word of a Marine General, like John Kelly, .... I think Kelly used the “fascist” word. Can’t wait for the responses. I’m sure that everyone inclined to comment knows WAY more than Kelly."
 
I wasn’t specifically trying to pull up a comparable exaggeration at the time, just quickly grabbed another stupid comment Trump hastily made to show he’s not a truth teller.

My comment did highlight that a (previously) trusted and respected man among republicans has come out and made a big statement. I posted it (on the political forum) because I know it’s controversial and will get a bunch of people to call out someone (Kelly) they would have previously backed. It’s been called the 180, I think.

Do you honestly think I’m trying to lean into the .01% here on Monster Muleys……that’d be pretty dumb.

Kelly DIDN’T call Trump a Hitler-Fascist or imply he would try exterminate people. THATS exaggeration on your part and I don’t think people take it that way.

Kelly did say he said he felt Trump fit the general definition of a fascist. Kelly also said Trump admired Hitlers generals. Again he DIDN’T say Trump is a Hitler-Fascist (and neither did I)…….but that’s what everyone here is spinning, for max effect.

Kelly seemed pretty particular about his words and didn’t seem to be excited about saying what he said. I’d assume he felt he was doing some good in saying it and that’s why he did so. I’m sure Fly will disagree with me and uncover a secret payment to Kelly direct from Harris.

Since Kelly’s statement, some individuals still on Trumps side came out and said they never heard him say that while others have come out and say they completely support Kelly……big fuggin surprise there!! I know who I believe, and it’s not the Laura Loomers of this country.

Don’t lay into that crap that Democrats are the only ones saying things that might lead to people getting hurt because that’s BS and you know it. Remember the “hang Mike Pence” chants in J6….I don’t recall a certain former president taking a stand against that. Elon just recently pontificating as to why nobody had tried to assassinate Harris yet. So yeah, I think your full of BS on this one.
HikeHunt61 said:
It’s beyond the pale to say those two insults are comparable. My point is, they are dangerously different.

If one really believed that the likely president of the US was a Hitler-Fascist, they would be well justified in risking their own life to end what they really believed was the coming genocide, systemic imprisoning of entire classes of people, and the beginning of World War III.

On the other hand, if one really believed that a big recession was the fault of a president, they would be pissed off and do everything they can to vote them out of office.

And I get that 99.99% of people realize that the liberals' stating Trump is a Hitler-Fascist don’t really believe that. But your OP original post leans into the .01%:

"BUT I’d really trust the word of a Marine General, like John Kelly, .... I think Kelly used the “fascist” word. Can’t wait for the responses. I’m sure that everyone inclined to comment knows WAY more than Kelly."
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NMFROM81 said:
I wasn’t specifically trying to pull up a comparable exaggeration at the time, just quickly grabbed another stupid comment Trump hastily made to show he’s not a truth teller.

My comment did highlight that a (previously) trusted and respected man among republicans has come out and made a big statement. I posted it (on the political forum) because I know it’s controversial and will get a bunch of people to call out someone (Kelly) they would have previously backed. It’s been called the 180, I think.

Do you honestly think I’m trying to lean into the .01% here on Monster Muleys……that’d be pretty dumb.

Kelly DIDN’T call Trump a Hitler-Fascist or imply he would try exterminate people. THATS exaggeration on your part and I don’t think people take it that way.

Kelly did say he said he felt Trump fit the general definition of a fascist. Kelly also said Trump admired Hitlers generals. Again he DIDN’T say Trump is a Hitler-Fascist (and neither did I)…….but that’s what everyone here is spinning, for max effect.

Kelly seemed pretty particular about his words and didn’t seem to be excited about saying what he said. I’d assume he felt he was doing some good in saying it and that’s why he did so. I’m sure Fly will disagree with me and uncover a secret payment to Kelly direct from Harris.

Since Kelly’s statement, some individuals still on Trumps side came out and said they never heard him say that while others have come out and say they completely support Kelly……big fuggin surprise there!! I know who I believe, and it’s not the Laura Loomers of this country.

Don’t lay into that crap that Democrats are the only ones saying things that might lead to people getting hurt because that’s BS and you know it. Remember the “hang Mike Pence” chants in J6….I don’t recall a certain former president taking a stand against that. Elon just recently pontificating as to why nobody had tried to assassinate Harris yet. So yeah, I think your full of BS on this one.
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What? Laffin.
 
Gee NMFROM81, I said lean into, not actually believe it. As a matter of fact, I know dang well that you do not believe Trump is a fascist. All fascists do the things I mentioned, and if you believed it, you would, as you claim, not do it on MM. Instead, we would be reading about you in the news.

So the conclusion is- you are doing it to get attention. You know he's not a fascist.
 
HikeHunt61 said:
Gee NMFROM81, I said lean into, not actually believe it. As a matter of fact, I know dang well that you do not believe Trump is a fascist. All fascists do the things I mentioned, and if you believed it, you would, as you claim, not do it on MM. Instead, we would be reading about you in the news.

So the conclusion is- you are doing it to get attention. You know he's not a fascist.
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I did admit above that I started the thread because I recognized the political controversy. Yup, I knew it’d spark some discussion with mean words. That’s what I assumed the political forum was for and it’s got more bite to it that the typical echo chamber that erupts here.

However, dumbing it down to me wanting “attention” is not accurate.
 
Got it NMFROM81- so not for attention. Not sure what folks hope to accomplish by calling Trump a fascist. When they don't really believe it themselves, it's the one conclusion I can come up with.
 

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