Where does this bull fit into the spike bull regulations?

twopointdn · 2024-10-07T15:42:42-0600

What is your thought?

ktg · 2024-10-07T15:49:48-0600

is it broken?

LIK2HNT · 2024-10-07T15:52:22-0600

Technically he does not have a spike. Therefore he is a branch antler bull.

Elkslayer · 2024-10-07T15:53:37-0600

Doesnt branch above the ear on the left.

elkassassin · 2024-10-07T16:20:36-0600

You Could Do What they Were Doing In LE Units A Few years Ago!

twopointdn · 2024-10-07T17:31:39-0600

It did not appear to be broken off. It appeared to have Hair growing over the skull cap on the no antlered side. Like he never had a antler from the beginning of his life. Two valid comments so far and this is why I want to post this to see what everyone thought.

Valid comment #1, technically he does not have a spike. (Which would fit into the illegal category)

Valid comment #2, does not branch above the ear on the left side. (Which would fit the legal category)

Carry on.

elkassassin · 2024-10-07T17:44:13-0600

Maybe The DWR Can Start A 0 X Anything Hunt!

There Must Be 100's Of Them Running Around That Opportunists Would Love To WHACK!

Right Nilly?

johnnycake · 2024-10-07T17:57:19-0600

Elkslayer said:
Doesnt on the left.

FTFY

johnnycake · 2024-10-07T18:00:58-0600

This is pretty cut and dry, not a spike.

A "bull elk" has to have antlers at least 5" long or longer. A "spike bull" is a "bull elk" which has at least one antler beam with no branching above the ears.

So the bull in question does have 1 antler that meets the "bull elk" definition, but it does not have any antler beam with no branching above the ears. It is not just "no branching above the ears--it still has to have an antler beam at least 5" long that does not branch above the ears to qualify.

LIK2HNT · 2024-10-07T18:01:13-0600

Since we have answered honestly.
Now it’s time for some how the elk identifies comments.

LIK2HNT · 2024-10-07T18:08:04-0600

twopointdn said:
It did not appear to be broken off. It appeared to have Hair growing over the skull cap on the no antlered side. Like he never had a antler from the beginning of his life. Two valid comments so far and this is why I want to post this to see what everyone thought.

Valid comment #1, technically he does not have a spike. (Which would fit into the illegal category)

Valid comment #2, does not branch above the ear on the left side. (Which would fit the legal category)

Carry on.

Actually comment #2 is not valid because definition states an antler which the bull is missing.

Bux n Dux · 2024-10-07T18:08:38-0600

I’d pass on that one. It doesn’t have anything that meets the spike definition. Now, if he had just a brow tine 5” or longer and the rest was broke off, I’d smack him.

He’s closer to an antlerless definition than a spike definition

Elkslayer · 2024-10-07T18:49:49-0600

johnnycake said:
FTFY

What if I didnt want it fixed?

MrShane · 2024-10-07T18:59:43-0600

twopointdn said:
What is your thought?

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Don’t even think about cutting him down Dave!
When you have more time I can go in to more detail of a close call for a friend and I…..

twopointdn · 2024-10-07T19:15:14-0600

Good thing he was in a any bull unit. I am just trying to see how many would or wouldn’t shoot him in a spike only unit. He definitely almost fits into some gray area but I think people are right by definition he is not legal in a spike only unit. Thanks for participating.

johnnycake · 2024-10-07T19:50:04-0600

twopointdn said:
Good thing he was in a any bull unit. I am just trying to see how many would or wouldn’t shoot him in a spike only unit. He definitely almost fits into some gray area but I think people are right by definition he is not legal in a spike only unit. Thanks for participating.

He almost fits into gray area for a spike about the same amount that a cow fits into that gray area

yoteduster · 2024-10-07T21:18:07-0600

Give him a big pass..and save yourself some grief...

ColdBore · 2024-10-08T05:43:04-0600

twopointdn said:
It did not appear to be broken off. It appeared to have Hair growing over the skull cap on the no antlered side. Like he never had a antler from the beginning of his life.

twopointdn said:
He definitely almost fits into some gray area ...

There is no gray area.

He has no antler at all, therefore there is no spike (or no antler to not be branched).

That is not a legal animal in a spike only unit.

And.....what is "definitely almost" anyway? No wonder you find yourself in these quandaries.