Where does this bull fit into the spike bull regulations?

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It did not appear to be broken off. It appeared to have Hair growing over the skull cap on the no antlered side. Like he never had a antler from the beginning of his life. Two valid comments so far and this is why I want to post this to see what everyone thought.

Valid comment #1, technically he does not have a spike. (Which would fit into the illegal category)

Valid comment #2, does not branch above the ear on the left side. (Which would fit the legal category)

Carry on.
 
Maybe The DWR Can Start A 0 X Anything Hunt!

There Must Be 100's Of Them Running Around That Opportunists Would Love To WHACK!

Right Nilly?
 
This is pretty cut and dry, not a spike.

A "bull elk" has to have antlers at least 5" long or longer. A "spike bull" is a "bull elk" which has at least one antler beam with no branching above the ears.

So the bull in question does have 1 antler that meets the "bull elk" definition, but it does not have any antler beam with no branching above the ears. It is not just "no branching above the ears--it still has to have an antler beam at least 5" long that does not branch above the ears to qualify.
 
twopointdn said:
It did not appear to be broken off. It appeared to have Hair growing over the skull cap on the no antlered side. Like he never had a antler from the beginning of his life. Two valid comments so far and this is why I want to post this to see what everyone thought.

Valid comment #1, technically he does not have a spike. (Which would fit into the illegal category)

Valid comment #2, does not branch above the ear on the left side. (Which would fit the legal category)

Carry on.
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Actually comment #2 is not valid because definition states an antler which the bull is missing.

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I’d pass on that one. It doesn’t have anything that meets the spike definition. Now, if he had just a brow tine 5” or longer and the rest was broke off, I’d smack him.

He’s closer to an antlerless definition than a spike definition
 
Good thing he was in a any bull unit. I am just trying to see how many would or wouldn’t shoot him in a spike only unit. He definitely almost fits into some gray area but I think people are right by definition he is not legal in a spike only unit. Thanks for participating.
 
twopointdn said:
Good thing he was in a any bull unit. I am just trying to see how many would or wouldn’t shoot him in a spike only unit. He definitely almost fits into some gray area but I think people are right by definition he is not legal in a spike only unit. Thanks for participating.
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He almost fits into gray area for a spike about the same amount that a cow fits into that gray area
 
twopointdn said:
It did not appear to be broken off. It appeared to have Hair growing over the skull cap on the no antlered side. Like he never had a antler from the beginning of his life.
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twopointdn said:
He definitely almost fits into some gray area ...
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There is no gray area.

He has no antler at all, therefore there is no spike (or no antler to not be branched).

That is not a legal animal in a spike only unit.

And.....what is "definitely almost" anyway? No wonder you find yourself in these quandaries. 😉
 

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