Bad judge of field score, how about you

257weatherby

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Here is a field photo of a buck that I harvested this year. I am curious what others think he scores.
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Hard to get much for inside spread credit and the main beams seem to usually suffer as well on narrow framed bucks. Nevertheless, I’m going with 180 because of his height and deep forks…

Horniac
 
Really a nice buck..I would've dropped him in a minute.I guessed 175 earlier but he might do better than that
 
My buddy killed one this year that is very similar to your buck. I am guessing his buck at 158”-161” so I would say the same for yours. I will put a tape on my buddy’s buck one of these days to see how close my guess is.

Nice buck. Congratulations. Did you get your buck opening morning of the Utah general muzzleloader hunt?
 
257weatherby said:
I field guessed at 180 based on the deep forks, (I am still learning) I appreciate everyone's input and guesses. He grosses right at 175. This was shot the evening of the first day of the general muzzleloader hunt.
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Daggone it. I was gonna take my initial guess to 175. Yes, I swear! Lol.

The second pic “spoke” to me way more than the live pic. I don’t know why. Neat and thank you for posting.
 
Lots of good length, but I was only scoring him around 167". I'm guessing you were pleasantly surprised by his score too? Nice buck!!
 
I said 173 gross from first picture, the second picture i saw eye guards or It would have been 175, wink.
 
Admittedly I didn’t see the brows in the first picture. That adds 10” in score right there at a minimum. So I was 10” short but I couldn’t go back and edit my guess.

Great buck either way!
 
I can honestly say I never knew that.

I always thought if you were missing the eye guard, you only got one mass measurement there. Maybe that’s why I am historically always been 10 inches less than pretty much everyone else.

Thanks for the lesson!
 
Mallardsx2 said:
I can honestly say I never knew that.

I always thought if you were missing the eye guard, you only got one mass measurement there. Maybe that’s why I am historically always been 10 inches less than pretty much everyone else.

Thanks for the lesson!
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I didn't mean to come across as a D****** but I was seriously wondering how 10" could be added.
 
WHT_MTNMAN said:
You always get 4 mass measurements No matter what.

You don't add two more measurements if it was done correctly in the first place.
H1 measurement was doubled
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I didn't know this either? So say we have a 3 point with eye guards, but the G2 doesn't split so the G3 is nonexistent, would you still get a mass measurement? If so, where would it be taken?
 
CC11 said:
I didn't know this either? So say we have a 3 point with eye guards, but the G2 doesn't split so the G3 is nonexistent, would you still get a mass measurement? If so, where would it be
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Yes you always get 4 mass measurements. I believe you actually double the H2 measurement and you don't get one on the G2 at all. But I could be wrong, You may get one half way up the G2. I'll ask my buddy who is an official scorer or I know a few official scorers frequent this site and could clarify.
 
WHT_MTNMAN said:
Yes you always get 4 mass measurements. I believe you actually double the H2 measurement and you don't get one on the G2 at all. But I could be wrong, You may get one half way up the G2. I'll ask my buddy who is an official scorer or I know a few official scorers frequent this site and could clarify.
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Where the hell is Homer when we need him?
 
CC11 said:
I didn't know this either? So say we have a 3 point with eye guards, but the G2 doesn't split so the G3 is nonexistent, would you still get a mass measurement? If so, where would it be taken?
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So my buddy who is an official measurer for B&C and P&Y says the H3 measurement is taken half way up the G2.
 
WHT_MTNMAN said:
So my buddy who is an official measurer for B&C and P&Y says the H3 measurement is taken half way up the G2.
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Copy that good to know! Appreciate it and sorry for the hijack 257, but my original gut feeling was 175" before I short changed him 7" :ROFLMAO:
 
“Circumferences are taken at the narrowest place as detailed in Figure C for each measurement. If the brow point is missing, take H-1 and H-2 at the smallest place between the burr and the G-2 point. If the G-4 point is missing, take H-4 halfway between the G-3 point and the tip of the main beam.”


There you go straight from B&C…

Horniac
 
In the case of a buck without brow tines you would take the measurement at the smallest point between the base and the G2. And then both the H1, and H2 measurements would be that measurement.

In the case of a 3 point without a g3 point (back fork) you would take the length of the g2 divide it by two and take the measurement at that point. (So 16" g2 you would take the measurement 8" from base of g2 point)

In the case of a 3 point buck with no g4 (front fork) you do the same thing, but take the measurement on the main beam between the tip of the beam, and where the g2 splits off.

Every animal gets 4 mass measurements, even a spike would lol, just get all 4 measurements at the half way point of the spike.

I'm surprised at how many people actually believe that a 3 point doesn't get all the mass measurements.
 
I’m surprised at how many people actually add the outside spread to the score.
Elk you will see a 35-40” discrepancy deer 20-25”. Maybe this is the so called MM score?🤷🏻
 
Butts said:
I’m surprised at how many people actually add the outside spread to the score.
Elk you will see a 35-40” discrepancy deer 20-25”. Maybe this is the so called MM score?🤷🏻
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Isn’t inside spread added for both elk and deer in B&C or no?
 
HntHrdr said:
Isn’t inside spread added for both elk and deer in B&C or no?
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Yes, inside credit, I’m talking about fellas scoring critters and adding the OUTSIDE spread to the score.
Really shouldn’t be a spot on the score sheets for widest spread BC or PY has no credibility towards widest/greatest spread.. just dumb
 
Back to the point 172-182 buck. If you’re a big buck hunter you know..
Fill the tag cowboy.
 
Ah gotcha. Yeah i figured guys talk outside spread as a good indicator or frame size, definitely not part of the score. Guys will often embellish anything though, haha we know that
 
These posts should provide the actual measurements. Thats what we do in our group. Nice to know where I’m off, where the angles of the pics fool you, or maybe just scope of the rack, such as guessing 20” width bit was 24” so basically everything is a little bigger in scope.

I guessed 165 and felt confident due to Founders guess, but if he can be off, judging MD, I feel good. 😜
 

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