Missing Wildlife Board Member

Some satire "meme" and info to ask for the beef! Where is the beef!

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Dr H. said:
Better yet why don't they release the un-redacted 62 pages. Let's see all the collected facts probable or not. Who they protecting his sister that works at the dwr?? Even better show us all the complaints and investigations clear back to 2000ish. When this crap first started.
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Not selling you anything…….. BnD wants me to read it, (not really but that what he said) I can’t find it or I would, so direct your response to the gentleman that posted the need to read.

Sounds like there’s a a slop-pail full of history between you and the Heaton’s. All the best in your quest.

As I said, Wade Heaton means nothing more to me than you or any other stranger does. With one exception, Heaton was pleasant…………
 
2lumpy said:
Not selling you anything…….. BnD wants me to read it, (not really but that what he said) I can’t find it or I would, so direct your response to the gentleman that posted the need to read.

Sounds like there’s a a slop-pail full of history between you and the Heaton’s. All the best in your quest.

As I said, Wade Heaton means nothing more to me than you or any other stranger does. With one exception, Heaton was pleasant…………
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Well put aside my differences. It should mean a lot to you and any other hunter in Utah that loves to hunt. They legit are changing migration patterns and deer habitat areas. I have seen this for the last 20 years whether I was bow hunting, rifle or blk powder on the zions or cedar units. Just facts, when you could turn down 2 3 small 4's and try to get a impressive deer without using bait or cameras thru the years it slowly dwindled. Not going to caulk that up to strictly feed and grazing areas.
 
Dr H. said:
Well put aside my differences. It should mean a lot to you and any other hunter in Utah that loves to hunt. They legit are changing migration patterns and deer habitat areas. I have seen this for the last 20 years whether I was bow hunting, rifle or blk powder on the zions or cedar units. Just facts, when you could turn down 2 3 small 4's and try to get an impressive deer without using bait or cameras thru the years it slowly dwindled. Not going to caulk that up to strictly feed and grazing areas.
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All the best in your quest.
 
Dr H. said:
Better yet why don't they release the un-redacted 62 pages. Let's see all the collected facts probable or not. Who they protecting his sister that works at the dwr?? Even better show us all the complaints and investigations clear back to 2000ish. When this crap first started.
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GRAMA request all of that. See what you get.
 
Vanilla said:
GRAMA request all of that. See what you get.
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I actually was thinking of doing that! Lol he is already in a lawsuit fir replacing the fire chief on cedar mtn with one of the indicted guides. Their is just waaay to many COI that follow him on all his positions even if u ignore the wildlife charges.
 
Bux n Dux said:
Read it in its entirety and get back to us on your question
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As I said, I couldn’t locate it on the Internet but another MM member sent me what I believe is as much as is available regarding the “probable cause statement”.

The sender said: “This is all public record, but it's not easy to find in the public sphere.”

Based on my reading of it, in its entirety, as you suggested…….6 I will say, the Wade Heaton probably cause statement is not a statement of guilt. Maybe best said….. it’s a legal “allegation” (not my term, but the term used by one more knowledgeable in the law than I.) The likely meaning of the term allegation might be as follows:

An allegation is a claim that you have done something wrong. It is a claim that is yet to be proven. A charge does not indicate you are guilty.

Therefore, we should wait to see if the allegation is proven before we claim Heaton is guilty.

I’m having déjà vu BnD, seems like we’re right where we stated from, hours ago.
 
2lumpy said:
As I said, I couldn’t locate it on the Internet but another MM member sent me what I believe is as much as is available regarding the “probable cause statement”.

The sender said: “This is all public record, but it's not easy to find in the public sphere.”

Based on my reading of it, in its entirety, as you suggested…….6 I will say, the Wade Heaton probably cause statement is not a statement of guilt. Maybe best said….. it’s a legal “allegation” (not my term, but the term used by one more knowledgeable in the law than I.) The likely meaning of the term allegation might be as follows:

An allegation is a claim that you have done something wrong. It is a claim that is yet to be proven. A charge does not indicate you are guilty.

Therefore, we should wait to see if the allegation is proven before we claim Heaton is guilty.

I’m having déjà vu BnD, seems like we’re right where we stated from, hours ago.
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Pretty hard to disprove the text messages
 
I Think It Was Mentioned In The Other Wade Thread?

Somebody Said Jared Steele(The Antler Buyer!) Was Mad Because They Had Him Mixed Up With A Different Jared Steele?

The SLT Isn't Always Right,We All Know That!

But I Was Reading Through This & They Have Jared Steele The Antler Buyer As One Of The Bunch?

I Don't Know That It's True?

Just Wondering If Somebody Knows The Truth?

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Former Utah Wildlife Board member faces felony charges for an alleged pattern of baiting big game

A currently serving Kane County Commissioner and former Utah Wildlife Board member has been charged with felony counts related to alleged baiting of big game in an effort to juice up deer hunts for clients of his Color Country Outfitters guiding service.
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That's What I Thought Niller!

But Then They Make The Same Mistake Again On August 28 And This Time They Post And I Quote: Jared Steele of Santaquin, 37, owner of Great Basin Antler Buyers

I Can See Them Making The Mistake Once,Well Kinda!

But FRICKEN Twice?

JFP!

Vanilla said:
The trib is RARELY right, and that tracks in this situation. They ID'd the wrong guy.

Wrong Jared Steele.
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elkassassin said:
I Think It Was Mentioned In The Other Wade Thread?

Somebody Said Jared Steele(The Antler Buyer!) Was Mad Because They Had Him Mixed Up With A Different Jared Steele?

The SLT Isn't Always Right,We All Know That!

But I Was Reading Through This & They Have Jared Steele The Antler Buyer As One Of The Bunch?

I Don't Know That It's True?

Just Wondering If Somebody Knows The Truth?

www.sltrib.com

Former Utah Wildlife Board member faces felony charges for an alleged pattern of baiting big game

A currently serving Kane County Commissioner and former Utah Wildlife Board member has been charged with felony counts related to alleged baiting of big game in an effort to juice up deer hunts for clients of his Color Country Outfitters guiding service.
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SLT has it wrong, it's NOT the antler buyer Steele, and he's about to throw some defamation lawsuits around for the damage this is causing his business.
 
Not all mistakes require payments. Many they don’t even need to retract what they say, they simply move on to their next crap story and everyone forgets how crap their last one was.

But…I suspect this one is going to cost them.
 
elkassassin said:
That's What I Thought Niller!

But Then They Make The Same Mistake Again On August 28 And This Time They Post And I Quote: Jared Steele of Santaquin, 37, owner of Great Basin Antler Buyers

I Can See Them Making The Mistake Once,Well Kinda!

But FRICKEN Twice?

JFP!
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100% wrong steel it's east to track the right one. Go to cco facebook or bragging rights who was also part of this they are tagging each other left n right. I 1000% know they have a phone of the other guy not Wades and I am guessing... wink wink he is turning judas... as fast as he can. We'll purely speculation... cough. Cough.... hmmm.
 
Vanilla said:
Not all mistakes require payments. Many they don’t even need to retract what they say, they simply move on to their next crap story and everyone forgets how crap their last one was.

But…I suspect this one is going to cost them.
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Yes. I also belive they ran the names before print and the minute they found massive deer accounts associated to names they said we'll that's them... they could have looked up Wades cco facebook and found the Christmas party at the cabin and seen all the guides and owner..
 
Have you seen the cost of bait lately, I mean feed. The main reason we wouldn't be able to bait everywhere like they claim. Let alone fuel cost to get in and off the pauns.

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I Want everyone to know the rumors are not true about COI. I have no COI I was simply helping the F&G improve wildlife habitat. Helping family get a job on the dwr was simply a non-COI incident. I only want to help stop poaching especially on the pauns.

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I'm all for calling out Wade for this BS he has ochestrated, but I don't think it's fair to implicate other family members in other positions without some sort of evidence to do so.

Just my opinion. Keep in mind, a spokesperson does not control their message. A company's or person's spokesperson says the things the company/person tell them to say. So I think it's fair to question why the DWR and the Wildlife Board remain silent on this topic, I'm not ready to implicate others without some sort of information.
 
Vanilla said:
I'm all for calling out Wade for this BS he has ochestrated, but I don't think it's fair to implicate other family members in other positions without some sort of evidence to do so.

Just my opinion. Keep in mind, a spokesperson does not control their message. A company's or person's spokesperson says the things the company/person tell them to say. So I think it's fair to question why the DWR and the Wildlife Board remain silent on this topic, I'm not ready to implicate others without some sort of information.
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No doubt this puts her in a very tough position either way.
 
Vanilla said:
I'm all for calling out Wade for this BS he has ochestrated, but I don't think it's fair to implicate other family members in other positions without some sort of evidence to do so.

Just my opinion. Keep in mind, a spokesperson does not control their message. A company's or person's spokesperson says the things the company/person tell them to say. So I think it's fair to question why the DWR and the Wildlife Board remain silent on this topic, I'm not ready to implicate others without some sort of information.
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"Her views are her own"


With that, she is free to comment, I'm guessing she has on toms of other things.
 
Vanilla said:
I'm all for calling out Wade for this BS he has ochestrated, but I don't think it's fair to implicate other family members in other positions without some sort of evidence to do so.

Just my opinion. Keep in mind, a spokesperson does not control their message. A company's or person's spokesperson says the things the company/person tell them to say. So I think it's fair to question why the DWR and the Wildlife Board remain silent on this topic, I'm not ready to implicate others without some sort of information.
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On TV the government employees aways say, “I can’t talk about that, it’s under investigation”. But that don’t work for me, I never stop talk’en.
 
Perhaps I'm not informed.

But how does a guy charged with that many crime, not at least get suspended from rge county commision?
 
Keystone said:
Perhaps I'm not informed.

But how does a guy charged with that many crime, not at least get suspended from rge county commision?
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Could it be……… because he hasn’t been convicted yet……….?

Also, it’s an elected…. not an appointed position…….. however I’m not entirely sure how a conviction effects an elected official but it might limit their ability to attend their public meetings.
 
Vanilla said:
I'm all for calling out Wade for this BS he has ochestrated, but I don't think it's fair to implicate other family members in other positions without some sort of evidence to do so.

Just my opinion. Keep in mind, a spokesperson does not control their message. A company's or person's spokesperson says the things the company/person tell them to say. So I think it's fair to question why the DWR and the Wildlife Board remain silent on this topic, I'm not ready to implicate others without some sort of information.
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I agree on alot of yout points.... I would like to know hire dates etc.. for them both onto the dwr. I mean coi or not is their??
 
Independent of the criminal allegations against CCO, I don’t see the COI for Wade to be on the wildlife board and a relative to be hired by the DWR.

I don’t know which happened first, but I don’t think it matters much. Could one use their influence and connection to help a family member of friend get hired? ABSOLUTELY! There is an old saying that it is not what you know, but who you know. It only becomes a problem when there is actual nepotism in place. Wade was not the boss of any DWR employee or in charge of hiring decisions at the DWR as a WB member. I think people misunderstand how that works pretty regularly. The WB is separate. They are not hired by the DWR, they are appointed by the governor and confirmed by the senate. They also are not the DWR’s boss and not in the chain of command.

What is fishy is why the DWR and WB have remained silent on this. It does not seem fishy to me that someone with a Heaton name is employed by the division.

Now, if there is evidence of a family cover up, spill it! But I’m not going to assume there is a cover up without some basis for doing so. That’s just me.
 
2lumpy said:
Could it be……… because he hasn’t been convicted yet……….?

Also, it’s an elected…. not an appointed position…….. however I’m not entirely sure how a conviction effects an elected official but it might limit their ability to attend their public meetings.
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They say he can wear hunter orange not to be confused with TBD supposed hearsay pending convict orange!

Pending trial evidence 62 page un-redacted docs. Not officially convicted.
 
Keystone said:
Perhaps I'm not informed.

But how does a guy charged with that many crime, not at least get suspended from rge county commision?
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Yup they finally removed him from the cedar mtn fire board fiasco.. where he helped a guide that is indicted with them on the new hunting case get the president job there.. this case is still pending I think the ex president will prob get a decent payout.

You know I don't care keeping silent any longer what are we leaving to or kids, grandkids... a bunch of good ole boy systems that reward buddies or relatives of buddies... no I am done fix the hunts drain the dwr swamps and let's get back to decent hunting with family.
 
Dr H. said:
I know this is older, it is just hilarious to read all these old posts. I was attending a wedding at the ole rock church in Mt Carmel a few towns over from Alton when all the debating about the master of bating was going on! they had just passed the no bait. I asked one of his current included indicated fellow guides what they were going to do now their main go to will be breaking the law... He looked at me and laughed. You really think we wont bait anymore. Wade is going to continue, they will have a heck of a time catching him because all the locked gates and different areas we move in and out of on the their property on the puans. Going to look thru wedding pics to see exact year and month.
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This is a bunch of bullchit! He is not the MASTER OF BAITING and I can prove it. Anyone who was here in the last 10-22 or so approximate years will remember me as the original Master baiter and there can only be one master baiter. Back then my name was "MR. BAIT N FISH" so that proves it. I guess unless you are only referring to four legged animals then he may very well be the Master baiter in that category. I never mastered the baiting of them. Deer and Elk are just too big and I never was very good with a rope. I'll stick to the fish and I mostly like to use powerbait, it lasts longer. 😁
 
2lumpy said:
Could it be……… because he hasn’t been convicted yet……….?

Also, it’s an elected…. not an appointed position…….. however I’m not entirely sure how a conviction effects an elected official but it might limit their ability to attend their public meetings.
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School board folks, city councils, etc are often suspended pending investigation.
 
deadibob said:
This is a bunch of bullchit! He is not the MASTER OF BAITING and I can prove it. Anyone who was here in the last 10-22 or so approximate years will remember me as the original Master baiter and there can only be one master baiter. Back then my name was "MR. BAIT N FISH" so that proves it. I guess unless you are only referring to four legged animals then he may very well be the Master baiter in that category. I never mastered the baiting of them. Deer and Elk are just too big and I never was very good with a rope. I'll stick to the fish and I mostly like to use powerbait, it lasts longer. 😁
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Kenworth or Peterbilt are pretty specialized requirements requirements for deer/elk
 
Dr H. said:
... fix the hunts drain the dwr swamps and let's get back to decent hunting with family.
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LOL……… if that’s all you want, you probably better buy yourself a respirator.

If you’re still packing a pocketful of rocks over the loss of your annual family deer hunt, there’s damn little the courts are gonna do for you.
 
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2lumpy said:
Could it be……… because he hasn’t been convicted yet……….?

Also, it’s an elected…. not an appointed position…….. however I’m not entirely sure how a conviction effects an elected official but it might limit their ability to attend their public meetings.
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IndexConstitution
Article IVElections and Right of Suffrage
Article IV, Section 6[Mentally incompetent persons, convicted felons, and certain criminals ineligible to vote.]
Agreed! Until he (wadeH) is convicted or let off released from responsibility... he can hold office.

Utah Constitution

Article IV, Section 6.

[Mentally incompetent persons, convicted felons, and certain criminals ineligible to vote.]

[Any mentally incompetent person, any person convicted of a felony, or any person convicted of treason or a crime against the elective franchise, may not be permitted to vote at any election or be eligible to HOLD OFFICE IN this State until the right to vote or hold elective office is restored as provided by statute.]
 
2lumpy said:
LOL……… if that’s all you want, you probably better buy yourself a respirator.

If you’re still packing a pocketful of rocks over the lose of your annual family deer hunt, there’s damn little the courts are gonna do for you.
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lol back I can't say everything thru the years that went down..... Their of course is way more than that.. it's all good, I have a great life! I keep buying land thru kane county and on the pauns. Utah is awesome! A lot of scenery and wildlife. We truly are extremely blessed even to live here let alone own hundreds of acres in utah!!

you would think I am some old wanker just hammering this thru disgruntled and crying..... no... I wouldn't even "TRI" to be that guy. I do really well! actually extremely well!! And I am very optimistic on the day to day.. --the jokes and memes--- lol Let's just "TRI" to not let people deny things about poaching etc... Not casting a stone to sink a ship per say. Like I said I did have a old account in the day commented alot etc. now I just open MM around hunting season to see the cool animals! This crap just hits to close to home.. .. how many whispers allegations etc... can go on year after year after year.... even with wlh or wrh... sometimes where their is smoke their is actually fire..
 
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Hey Niller?

How Many Times Previously Did I Mention The COI?

Or Should I Say COI's?



Vanilla said:
I'm all for calling out Wade for this BS he has ochestrated, but I don't think it's fair to implicate other family members in other positions without some sort of evidence to do so.

Just my opinion. Keep in mind, a spokesperson does not control their message. A company's or person's spokesperson says the things the company/person tell them to say. So I think it's fair to question why the DWR and the Wildlife Board remain silent on this topic, I'm not ready to implicate others without some sort of information.
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Dr H. said:
Their of course is way more than that.. it's all good, I have a great life! I keep buying land thru kane county and on the pauns. Utah is awesome! A lot of scenery and wildlife. We truly are extremely blessed even to live here let alone own hundreds of acres in utah!!
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You got family in Wyoming an Oregon, cuz your starting to demonstrate a common gene pool with a couple of folks from there.

It’s like I keep saying, don’t settle here folks, Utah sucks, even for those who are extremely blessed and own hundred of acres in paradise. Seriously……. take the Dr. at his word, it’s corrupt, top to bottom, you can’t trust the neighbors, in the cities, nor the tiny rural villages. Rotten to the “apple’s” core.

I hear Colorado treats their new comers much much better.
 
2lumpy said:
You got family in Wyoming an Oregon, cuz your starting to demonstrate a common gene pool with a couple of folks from there.

It’s like I keep saying, don’t settle here folks, Utah sucks, even for those who are extremely blessed and own hundred of acres in paradise. Seriously……. take the Dr. at his word, it’s corrupt, top to bottom, you can’t trust the neighbors, in the cities, nor the tiny rural villages. Rotten to the “apple’s” core.

I hear Colorado treats their new comers much much better.
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Lol somewhere up thay way close to the boarder moved up awhile back.... you can find sunshine in any state or hold your lip out waiting for a bird to **** in it. Just annoyed they keep letting wade l off until lately and wade h every time he gets a pass.... idk it's just horse crap...


See it all the time... move ins or even live ins complaining about their previous state... then they have issues here.... well duh... maybe they got in the car and moved here with ya??
 
So your saying you approve don't talk about it and look the other way....
We have family tags we give them away.


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hossblur said:
Is inability to follow the law a COI?
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Well, only if the said law was opposed by you for several months.... and you sincerely thought it was a very big grey area on what was defined or passed in said law. Or perhaps you have counting issues where you grew up ma did not help you count finger n toes.... did it pass or did it not that is the question. No way..... game on take off the scope caps PEW PEW they can't oppose me and get away with it!!
 
Dr H. said:
So your saying you approve don't talk about it and look the other way....
We have family tags we give them away.


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Case Against Idaho Man Exposes Black Market for Big Game Tags

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Apparently I’ve made this too complicated Dr. I have never intended to infer or outright say that you or anyone should not talk about it nor should you look the other way. If I did, I apologize.

My position is very simple, at least I think it is. It is this: Don’t accuse someone of guilt before the courts declare them guilty. Period, that’s it, end of story.

I’m great with, see something say something. Share reasons why you believe someone is guilty. Talk and tell what you believe, all you want. Just don’t declare guilt until guilt has been declared. Then, by all means take it to the house.

If Heaton, or anyone else…. commits a crime and is found guilty, they deserve whatever punishment the court determines is appropriate. As I’ve said, ad nauseam, Wade Heaton means nothing more to me than another guy on the street, but believe he has the right to be proven and pronounced guilty before loping off his head.
 
2lumpy said:
My position is very simple, at least I think it is. It is this: Don’t accuse someone of guilt before the courts declare them guilty. Period, that’s it, end of story.

I’m great with, see something say something. Share reasons why you believe someone is guilty. Talk and tell what you believe, all you want. Just don’t declare guilt until guilt has been declared. Then, by all means take it to the house.
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What if it’s one’s job to declare someone guilty before the courts adjudicate it? Can those folks get a brief pass?
 
Well I happen to have grown up in alton... year after year I have watched them do things that are shady or edge of shady.. 100% know more about this case than I care to expose yet.
 
Dr H. said:
Well I happen to have grown up in alton... year after year I have watched them do things that are shady or edge of shady.. 100% know more about this case than I care to expose yet.
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Hoping to be called as witness then, as you should. All the best.
 
The potential relation of this Heaton-jolley chick to the masterbaiter might explain why they’ve gone dark on the responses to their social media posts…

I legitimately would like someone to explain to me why this dude wasn’t arrested for these charges. It’s no secret I made a mistake once and they couldn’t throw cuffs on me fast enough, over something very minor compared to this deal. Maybe @Vanilla can answer that question. Is it because of the titles and positions he holds and no one wants to get involved in that or is there another reason? Several felonies and a list of lesser offenses thrown at someone isn’t the equivalent of a speeding ticket.


Side note, just looking what’s available on his profile, he seems to be a pretty religious person. He’s probably front row every Sunday. Some of the worst, dishonest people I’ve personally known were front row every week. Some of the best people I’ve ever met have never set foot in a church. Hope they pull his special membership all access card for this as well. Wouldn’t surprise me if he was a bishop or had a high position calling. Very disappointing that a man of God would be the ring leader or something so wrong, unethical and illegal
 
I'll leave the religious part to others except to say my understanding is one attends because he isn't perfect and is seeking it. But I get the "front row" shot, as some of the dirtiest and crooked contactors I've known, made a big show of Sundays.

With both Wades, but especially Heaton, it's a combo of two things.

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Heaton does have political power. And reading about the fire chief incident, he's not afraid to use it. Local DWR lives in the community. Kids in school, same church? Small town cliques. As you pointed out, you, some dude, is cuffed, arrested, etc because what are you going to do about it? The county commissioner? He can cause a ton of grief,so he gets special treatment? Looks like it.

2.

The state of Utah, next to maybe Texas, is the most commercial hunting state in the US. We saw with WLH poaching that sheep how willingly the DWR covered for it. A wealth tag busted for poaching is a market cooler. WLH getting busted with the President's son, or the most famous mule deer CWMU in the country being shut down will really put a dent in the reputation Utah has tried so hard to cultivate. Utah is the deep pocket playground where ANYTHING goes, we can't have law enforcement screwing that up. DWR SLC has repeatedly shown laws and rules are second to zeros on the check.

Problem is, finally, the lawbreaking and frankly the cover up(WLH bear incident swept under the rug) became so egregious, outside journalists started looking into it.


We all know, Heaton would have got a wrist slap and a "be more careful", but WLH bear issue became known, so eyes were watching.

Here we sit, a year later, and I'm betting there is a major meltdown in SLC. WLH, helicopter hunting with a wealth tag. Busting him for it, is another hit to the anything goes reputation. But now everyone is watching so not busting him, could come with more attention.


Shirley owes sportsmen at least an apology for his Heaton statement. He bold faced lied.

Further. The triggers deserve the same treatment Bux got.

WLH is booked BECAUSE deep pockets want that 100% rate at all costs. They aren't shocked by his lawlessness, they seek it out. Same is true of Heaton.

Utah has a MAJOR commercial hunting issue . It begins in SLC.
 
Bux n Dux said:
I legitimately would like someone to explain to me why this dude wasn’t arrested for these charges. It’s no secret I made a mistake once and they couldn’t throw cuffs on me fast enough, over something very minor compared to this deal. Maybe @Vanilla can answer that question. Is it because of the titles and positions he holds and no one wants to get involved in that or is there another reason? Several felonies and a list of lesser offenses thrown at someone isn’t the equivalent of a speeding ticket.
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I have no inside information about the particulars of decisions on this case, but just speaking generally, arresting or commencing this case via warrant would not be in line with how a case like this would normally go.

I certainly can’t comment about your situation bux. What I can do is illustrate what I believe the process was here, and say it doesn’t appear to be out of line on how other types of crimes would have been handled.

You have a well-known, influential person that is an elected county commissioner and also currently appointed WB member. Law enforcement obtains information that he may not be following the law, and begins an investigation. Because of the potential landmines, I hope that they made sure they dotted all their Ts and crossed all their Is. Either way, they obtained A LOT of evidence and informatoin about these offenses. This is not a case where the evidence is a close call based upon what is in the public record. These types of cases are generally not a "caught in the act" and arrested type case, they go to the county attorney for screening of criminal charges.

In this case, you had the Kane County attorney conflict it out to another office to determine the appropriate charges and to prosecute them if they determined there was sufficient evidence. This was 100% the right call. They are not going to screen charges on someone that is in charge of setting their budget, just as example. That is a clear conflict of interest and should be conflicted out every single time. Which likely caused some delay in the process, as that type of action always will.

A new entity takes a look and comes up with charges, some of them very serious. That said, none of them present an ongoing danger to the public. So it's not likely a judge would have granted a warrant for Wade's arrest in this case, but would have told the Utah County attorneys office to proceed by summons and not warrant.

Utah has gone through a lot of bail reform the last several years. For better or worse, most people are not being held in jail for their cases and the vast majority are not even having to post bail anymore. (Sidenote: If you think your Republican Utah legislature is a party of "law and order," you are sorely mistaken!)

You only arrest any defendant after this screening process and begin the case via warrant rather than a summons if you plan to put bail in place. You would only do that if you feel bail is needed to either protect the public or to ensure the defendant's appearance in court. I don't think either of those issues would be present in this case, so it does not seem out of line from what I've seen the last 5 years that this case would not begin with cuffs on Wade or a warrant for his arrest.
 
Man... I ain't touching dat religion thingy with a 10' pole... lol...
everyone has their own personal religi-ax to grind... everyone has their own personal experiences good or bad.... I have both! their are a crap load of GOOD AND AWESOME people on both sides of the isle... I see this every day in my profession!

Wade was a bishop.... once a bishop always a bishop.. I mean come on my old joke was their is only a 100 people in Alton counting a couple of dogs n horses .. prob double now.. the whole town has had a chance to be bishop..... lol. ...... Wade his Dad his uncle is grandpas etc... I will say this his mom was awesome.


On the waiting to file charges. If they in fact were solidifying the case GREAT!! awesome job government. That works for me.. just what the hell took so loooong... also kinda joking on the time... Anyhow I digress if they did try to cover this up holy smokes what a crock of crap... That really needs to be looked at if that is the case... was it lets wait and see who all knows... IDK. I do know he is innocent until proven guilty YES USA!! and I do know he is also guilty if that makes sense!

EDIT I do want this case, & WLH brought to the forefront because it will at least maybe get the attention of someone in higher power to do something.
 
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First rule: You do not talk about Bait Club

Second rule: You do not talk about the Bait Club (only on what's app)

Third rule: Baiting ends when DWR yells "stop!", the buck goes limp, or lights out

Fourth rule: Only two baits in the car at a time (do not stack)

Seventh rule: Baiting continue as long as they need to bait!

Eighth rule: First-time participants must not see the bait!

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Dr H. said:
2024 BAIT CLUB WLH & WRH JOINT CO OP

First rule: You do not talk about Bait Club

Second rule: You do not talk about the Bait Club (only on what's app)

Third rule: Baiting ends when DWR yells "stop!", the buck goes limp, or lights out

Fourth rule: Only two baits in the car at a time (do not stack)

Seventh rule: Baiting continue as long as they need to bait!

Eighth rule: First-time participants must not see the bait!

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Im stealing this 🤣
 
Dr H. said:
2024 BAIT CLUB WLH & WRH JOINT CO OP

First rule: You do not talk about Bait Club

Second rule: You do not talk about the Bait Club (only on what's app)

Third rule: Baiting ends when DWR yells "stop!", the buck goes limp, or lights out

Fourth rule: Only two baits in the car at a time (do not stack)

Seventh rule: Baiting continue as long as they need to bait!

Eighth rule: First-time participants must not see the bait!

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@smokepolejohnson, you gonna allow the new guy to challenge the throne?

This is a well done post, Good work
 
hossblur said:
@smokepolejohnson, you gonna allow the new guy to challenge the throne?

This is a well done post, Good work
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Haha, lotsa good fresh satire coming in from the good Dr. lately. After the hunts slow down, I’ll have to get my goal line package on the field, dig in the boot heels per se and take a stand. (Much like Wade Heaton hairline) Joking aside its long over due that all these slap dycks gets exposed and need to be accountable and dismember the state’s massive commercial hunting corruption. Thanks to Trimate it should stay in the forefront
 
He hasn't even appeared for his initial appearance yet. (October 10th at 10:00 am if anyone is wondering...)

Plenty of time to debait this one still as it moves through the justice system.

Hey Doc H, did I hear correctly that Wade did not win his primary election and will not be on the ballot for re-election in November regardless of all this?
 
Vanilla said:
He hasn't even appeared for his initial appearance yet. (October 10th at 10:00 am if anyone is wondering...)

Plenty of time to debait this one still as it moves through the justice system.

Hey Doc H, did I hear correctly that Wade did not win his primary election and will not be on the ballot for re-election in November regardless of all this?
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Yup! shift change up in January! They finally got it done... lol.. I do agree with one thing he did have a lot of ideas on building more subdivisions etc and opening up areas that people have been fighting to stop building! Their was a few ideas I did like that way some a little shady also like the main developer realtor was his one of his hunting main go to guides. Kinda another COI... except it did finally get something moving along bottle neck planning design phase! Any how yea! OCTOBER fest! here we come.... is it odd to print memes on picket signs to hand out in front of court? my family wont let me.... ugh...
 
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Said when your hunting on the pauns a nap is priceless and a quality guide is a must!!

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