Not selling you anything…….. BnD wants me to read it, (not really but that what he said) I can’t find it or I would, so direct your response to the gentleman that posted the need to read.Better yet why don't they release the un-redacted 62 pages. Let's see all the collected facts probable or not. Who they protecting his sister that works at the dwr?? Even better show us all the complaints and investigations clear back to 2000ish. When this crap first started.
Well put aside my differences. It should mean a lot to you and any other hunter in Utah that loves to hunt. They legit are changing migration patterns and deer habitat areas. I have seen this for the last 20 years whether I was bow hunting, rifle or blk powder on the zions or cedar units. Just facts, when you could turn down 2 3 small 4's and try to get a impressive deer without using bait or cameras thru the years it slowly dwindled. Not going to caulk that up to strictly feed and grazing areas.Not selling you anything…….. BnD wants me to read it, (not really but that what he said) I can’t find it or I would, so direct your response to the gentleman that posted the need to read.
Sounds like there’s a a slop-pail full of history between you and the Heaton’s. All the best in your quest.
As I said, Wade Heaton means nothing more to me than you or any other stranger does. With one exception, Heaton was pleasant…………
All the best in your quest.Well put aside my differences. It should mean a lot to you and any other hunter in Utah that loves to hunt. They legit are changing migration patterns and deer habitat areas. I have seen this for the last 20 years whether I was bow hunting, rifle or blk powder on the zions or cedar units. Just facts, when you could turn down 2 3 small 4's and try to get an impressive deer without using bait or cameras thru the years it slowly dwindled. Not going to caulk that up to strictly feed and grazing areas.
Better yet why don't they release the un-redacted 62 pages. Let's see all the collected facts probable or not. Who they protecting his sister that works at the dwr?? Even better show us all the complaints and investigations clear back to 2000ish. When this crap first started.
I actually was thinking of doing that! Lol he is already in a lawsuit fir replacing the fire chief on cedar mtn with one of the indicted guides. Their is just waaay to many COI that follow him on all his positions even if u ignore the wildlife charges.GRAMA request all of that. See what you get.
As I said, I couldn’t locate it on the Internet but another MM member sent me what I believe is as much as is available regarding the “probable cause statement”.Read it in its entirety and get back to us on your question
As I said, I couldn’t locate it on the Internet but another MM member sent me what I believe is as much as is available regarding the “probable cause statement”.
The sender said: “This is all public record, but it's not easy to find in the public sphere.”
Based on my reading of it, in its entirety, as you suggested…….6 I will say, the Wade Heaton probably cause statement is not a statement of guilt. Maybe best said….. it’s a legal “allegation” (not my term, but the term used by one more knowledgeable in the law than I.) The likely meaning of the term allegation might be as follows:
An allegation is a claim that you have done something wrong. It is a claim that is yet to be proven. A charge does not indicate you are guilty.
Therefore, we should wait to see if the allegation is proven before we claim Heaton is guilty.
I’m having déjà vu BnD, seems like we’re right where we stated from, hours ago.
But I Was Reading Through This & They Have Jared Steele The Antler Buyer As One Of The Bunch?
I Don't Know That It's True?
Just Wondering If Somebody Knows The Truth?
The trib is RARELY right, and that tracks in this situation. They ID'd the wrong guy.
Wrong Jared Steele.
SLT has it wrong, it's NOT the antler buyer Steele, and he's about to throw some defamation lawsuits around for the damage this is causing his business.I Think It Was Mentioned In The Other Wade Thread?
Somebody Said Jared Steele(The Antler Buyer!) Was Mad Because They Had Him Mixed Up With A Different Jared Steele?
The SLT Isn't Always Right,We All Know That!
But I Was Reading Through This & They Have Jared Steele The Antler Buyer As One Of The Bunch?
I Don't Know That It's True?
Just Wondering If Somebody Knows The Truth?
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Former Utah Wildlife Board member faces felony charges for an alleged pattern of baiting big game
A currently serving Kane County Commissioner and former Utah Wildlife Board member has been charged with felony counts related to alleged baiting of big game in an effort to juice up deer hunts for clients of his Color Country Outfitters guiding service.www.sltrib.com
has it wrong, it's NOT the antler buyer Steele, and he's about to throw some defamation lawsuits around for the damage this is causing his business.
I don't know, but they received some misinformation from somewhereI Don't Blame Him A Bit PUNK!
But Why Do They Keep Making The Same Mistake?
I Don't Blame Him A Bit PUNK!
But Why Do They Keep Making The Same Mistake?
It’s the Salt Lake Tribune. Have they ever cared about accuracy?
100% wrong steel it's east to track the right one. Go to cco facebook or bragging rights who was also part of this they are tagging each other left n right. I 1000% know they have a phone of the other guy not Wades and I am guessing... wink wink he is turning judas... as fast as he can. We'll purely speculation... cough. Cough.... hmmm.That's What I Thought Niller!
But Then They Make The Same Mistake Again On August 28 And This Time They Post And I Quote: Jared Steele of Santaquin, 37, owner of Great Basin Antler Buyers
I Can See Them Making The Mistake Once,Well Kinda!
But FRICKEN Twice?
JFP!
Yes. I also belive they ran the names before print and the minute they found massive deer accounts associated to names they said we'll that's them... they could have looked up Wades cco facebook and found the Christmas party at the cabin and seen all the guides and owner..Not all mistakes require payments. Many they don’t even need to retract what they say, they simply move on to their next crap story and everyone forgets how crap their last one was.
But…I suspect this one is going to cost them.
Wow, just wow........things are starting to appear even more "fishier".By golly. You fellers aren't suggesting that DWR HQ might have an issue are ya?
Nah, it's all above board, nothing to see here
Fairly certain you mean a new door has been shut and lets suppress the info in the news media etc. LolWow, just wow........things are starting to appear even more "fishier".
A new door has been opened.
I think Faith and more than a few others should be looking for a new job if they conspired to cover up for himWait a second. Is this girl his relation? Is this why we aren’t getting a statement from the DWR? This whole thing seems pretty fishy….
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No doubt this puts her in a very tough position either way.I'm all for calling out Wade for this BS he has ochestrated, but I don't think it's fair to implicate other family members in other positions without some sort of evidence to do so.
Just my opinion. Keep in mind, a spokesperson does not control their message. A company's or person's spokesperson says the things the company/person tell them to say. So I think it's fair to question why the DWR and the Wildlife Board remain silent on this topic, I'm not ready to implicate others without some sort of information.
I'm all for calling out Wade for this BS he has ochestrated, but I don't think it's fair to implicate other family members in other positions without some sort of evidence to do so.
Just my opinion. Keep in mind, a spokesperson does not control their message. A company's or person's spokesperson says the things the company/person tell them to say. So I think it's fair to question why the DWR and the Wildlife Board remain silent on this topic, I'm not ready to implicate others without some sort of information.
On TV the government employees aways say, “I can’t talk about that, it’s under investigation”. But that don’t work for me, I never stop talk’en.I'm all for calling out Wade for this BS he has ochestrated, but I don't think it's fair to implicate other family members in other positions without some sort of evidence to do so.
Just my opinion. Keep in mind, a spokesperson does not control their message. A company's or person's spokesperson says the things the company/person tell them to say. So I think it's fair to question why the DWR and the Wildlife Board remain silent on this topic, I'm not ready to implicate others without some sort of information.
Could it be……… because he hasn’t been convicted yet……….?Perhaps I'm not informed.
But how does a guy charged with that many crime, not at least get suspended from rge county commision?
Ever listen to Garth Brooks much?Perhaps I'm not informed.
But how does a guy charged with that many crime, not at least get suspended from rge county commision?
I agree on alot of yout points.... I would like to know hire dates etc.. for them both onto the dwr. I mean coi or not is their??I'm all for calling out Wade for this BS he has ochestrated, but I don't think it's fair to implicate other family members in other positions without some sort of evidence to do so.
Just my opinion. Keep in mind, a spokesperson does not control their message. A company's or person's spokesperson says the things the company/person tell them to say. So I think it's fair to question why the DWR and the Wildlife Board remain silent on this topic, I'm not ready to implicate others without some sort of information.
They say he can wear hunter orange not to be confused with TBD supposed hearsay pending convict orange!Could it be……… because he hasn’t been convicted yet……….?
Also, it’s an elected…. not an appointed position…….. however I’m not entirely sure how a conviction effects an elected official but it might limit their ability to attend their public meetings.
Yup they finally removed him from the cedar mtn fire board fiasco.. where he helped a guide that is indicted with them on the new hunting case get the president job there.. this case is still pending I think the ex president will prob get a decent payout.Perhaps I'm not informed.
But how does a guy charged with that many crime, not at least get suspended from rge county commision?
This is a bunch of bullchit! He is not the MASTER OF BAITING and I can prove it. Anyone who was here in the last 10-22 or so approximate years will remember me as the original Master baiter and there can only be one master baiter. Back then my name was "MR. BAIT N FISH" so that proves it. I guess unless you are only referring to four legged animals then he may very well be the Master baiter in that category. I never mastered the baiting of them. Deer and Elk are just too big and I never was very good with a rope. I'll stick to the fish and I mostly like to use powerbait, it lasts longer.I know this is older, it is just hilarious to read all these old posts. I was attending a wedding at the ole rock church in Mt Carmel a few towns over from Alton when all the debating about the master of bating was going on! they had just passed the no bait. I asked one of his current included indicated fellow guides what they were going to do now their main go to will be breaking the law... He looked at me and laughed. You really think we wont bait anymore. Wade is going to continue, they will have a heck of a time catching him because all the locked gates and different areas we move in and out of on the their property on the puans. Going to look thru wedding pics to see exact year and month.
Could it be……… because he hasn’t been convicted yet……….?
Also, it’s an elected…. not an appointed position…….. however I’m not entirely sure how a conviction effects an elected official but it might limit their ability to attend their public meetings.
This is a bunch of bullchit! He is not the MASTER OF BAITING and I can prove it. Anyone who was here in the last 10-22 or so approximate years will remember me as the original Master baiter and there can only be one master baiter. Back then my name was "MR. BAIT N FISH" so that proves it. I guess unless you are only referring to four legged animals then he may very well be the Master baiter in that category. I never mastered the baiting of them. Deer and Elk are just too big and I never was very good with a rope. I'll stick to the fish and I mostly like to use powerbait, it lasts longer.![]()
... fix the hunts drain the dwr swamps and let's get back to decent hunting with family.
Could it be……… because he hasn’t been convicted yet……….?
Also, it’s an elected…. not an appointed position…….. however I’m not entirely sure how a conviction effects an elected official but it might limit their ability to attend their public meetings.
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lol back I can't say everything thru the years that went down..... Their of course is way more than that.. it's all good, I have a great life! I keep buying land thru kane county and on the pauns. Utah is awesome! A lot of scenery and wildlife. We truly are extremely blessed even to live here let alone own hundreds of acres in utah!!LOL……… if that’s all you want, you probably better buy yourself a respirator.
If you’re still packing a pocketful of rocks over the lose of your annual family deer hunt, there’s damn little the courts are gonna do for you.
I'm all for calling out Wade for this BS he has ochestrated, but I don't think it's fair to implicate other family members in other positions without some sort of evidence to do so.
Just my opinion. Keep in mind, a spokesperson does not control their message. A company's or person's spokesperson says the things the company/person tell them to say. So I think it's fair to question why the DWR and the Wildlife Board remain silent on this topic, I'm not ready to implicate others without some sort of information.
You got family in Wyoming an Oregon, cuz your starting to demonstrate a common gene pool with a couple of folks from there.Their of course is way more than that.. it's all good, I have a great life! I keep buying land thru kane county and on the pauns. Utah is awesome! A lot of scenery and wildlife. We truly are extremely blessed even to live here let alone own hundreds of acres in utah!!
Hey Niller?
How Many Times Previously Did I Mention The COI?
Or Should I Say COI's?
Lol somewhere up thay way close to the boarder moved up awhile back.... you can find sunshine in any state or hold your lip out waiting for a bird to **** in it. Just annoyed they keep letting wade l off until lately and wade h every time he gets a pass.... idk it's just horse crap...You got family in Wyoming an Oregon, cuz your starting to demonstrate a common gene pool with a couple of folks from there.
It’s like I keep saying, don’t settle here folks, Utah sucks, even for those who are extremely blessed and own hundred of acres in paradise. Seriously……. take the Dr. at his word, it’s corrupt, top to bottom, you can’t trust the neighbors, in the cities, nor the tiny rural villages. Rotten to the “apple’s” core.
I hear Colorado treats their new comers much much better.
The COI Wade had on the board with certain decisions was clear.
I don’t think the one being discussed here is a real one. The others definitely were.
Well, only if the said law was opposed by you for several months.... and you sincerely thought it was a very big grey area on what was defined or passed in said law. Or perhaps you have counting issues where you grew up ma did not help you count finger n toes.... did it pass or did it not that is the question. No way..... game on take off the scope caps PEW PEW they can't oppose me and get away with it!!Is inability to follow the law a COI?
Apparently I’ve made this too complicated Dr. I have never intended to infer or outright say that you or anyone should not talk about it nor should you look the other way. If I did, I apologize.So your saying you approve don't talk about it and look the other way....
We have family tags we give them away.
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Case Against Idaho Man Exposes Black Market for Big Game Tags
An Idaho man has been charged with five felonies and 15 misdemeanors for a host of wildlife crimes allegedly committed during last year’s big game season–including the purchase of tags that are illegal to sell in the state. Karl W. Studer, 43, spent over $150,000 purchasing Landowner Appreciation...www.themeateater.com
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Is inability to follow the law a COI?
My position is very simple, at least I think it is. It is this: Don’t accuse someone of guilt before the courts declare them guilty. Period, that’s it, end of story.
I’m great with, see something say something. Share reasons why you believe someone is guilty. Talk and tell what you believe, all you want. Just don’t declare guilt until guilt has been declared. Then, by all means take it to the house.
Sure.What if it’s one’s job to declare someone guilty before the courts adjudicate it? Can those folks get a brief pass?
Hoping to be called as witness then, as you should. All the best.Well I happen to have grown up in alton... year after year I have watched them do things that are shady or edge of shady.. 100% know more about this case than I care to expose yet.
Witnesses in Utah seem to to get their lips zipped.Hoping to be called as witness then, as you should. All the best.
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