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UN-F'N-BELIEVABLE!!!

Most if not all the folks that were polled drinks alcohol and did drugs at one point. And they probably couldn't even stand for 2hrs straight w/o being tired. Talk about old!!!! LOL
 
It’s not about age alone, it’s about age and being brain dead…that was the problem with Biden.

How old is Pelosi? Sanders? Schumer? McConnell? Durbin?

Other than Pelosi and McConnell, they seem to speak clearly and have a bit of sound mind? Once again, it’s not age alone.

Do you think Biden was ousted because of age, or that he couldn’t walk, speak a coherent sentence, etc?
 
Flyjunky12 said:
It’s not about age alone, it’s about age and being brain dead…that was the problem with Biden.

How old is Pelosi? Sanders? Schumer? McConnell? Durbin?

Other than Pelosi and McConnell, they seem to speak clearly and have a bit of sound mind? Once again, it’s not age alone.

Do you think Biden was ousted because of age, or that he couldn’t walk, speak a coherent sentence, etc?
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There's a lot more bluehairs than the ones you listed, go to D.C. sometime and lobby.

Must hand out Ensure and Geritol between depends changes.
 
grizzly said:
Do you really not see the problem with the Party that started the age attacks claiming hypocrisy when the other side starts age attacks?

That never registered?
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Yeah but have your heard Biden talk? Or walk? I’m by no means trump lover. But it’s kinda rough to watch the media go after trump on age now. Just because the machine selected another candidate doesn’t take away that Biden is still the president. Should he step down?
 
1989Cohunter said:
Yeah but have your heard Biden talk? Or walk? I’m by no means trump lover. But it’s kinda rough to watch the media go after trump on age now. Just because the machine selected another candidate doesn’t take away that Biden is still the president. Should he step down?
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We all saw what happened the last four years; if anything that's more reason to question electing a 78 year old again, not less.

Should Biden step down? I'm not sure. I definitely don't want him making decisions in a crisis, though I don't want Kamala making those decisions either. We do have Constitutional safeguards in place, if needed, but neither option is good.

I don't think Republicans want Biden to step down because then Kamala can fly around in Air Force One and play President. All of a sudden, she has the power of Executive Action and incumbency.

Bottom line is this was totally predictable. I called it here on MM months ago that this is exactly what would happen. I even said I thought the Dems were baiting the GOP to run Trump. That's what happened. Now the Repubs are stuck with maybe the most polarizing political figure in a century, carrying the weight of a history of ageist attacks, erstwhile they can't really formulate a good strategy against Kamala outside of NewsMax & FNC; whose viewers were never undecided anyway.

When the Dems pulled the rug out and switched the teams up in the fourth quarter, all of a sudden the lines of attack on Hunter Biden's troubles and Joe Biden's age were useless. Trump's campaign is on the record that they weren't ready for it and Trump even demanded refunds for the money they spent campaigning against the wrong person.

It's very telling when Biden's team was demanding the mics be off during the debate and Kamala is trying to get them left on. They knew Biden wasn't up to the task, but Kamala knows Trump is his own worst enemy and the more he talks, the less likely he is to get elected.

Go rewatch the Harris/Pence debate and you'll see she's a formidable opponent in that forum.

GOP were caught with their pants down and shouldn't have been. This was an unforced error... just like demanding Biden step down would be.

Trump's team is trying to get him to stay on point, he even admitted as much at a rally a few days ago. He just can't help himself and he's unable to then focus on why he SHOULD get elected... instead focusing on why to NOT elect the other side. It's a bad spot for a candidate to be in.
 
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grizzly said:
We all saw what happened the last four years; if anything that's more reason to question electing a 78 year old again, not less.

Should Biden step down? I'm not sure. I definitely don't want him making decisions in a crisis, though I don't want Kamala making those decisions either. We do have Constitutional safeguards in place, if needed, but neither option is good.

I don't think Republicans want Biden to step down because then Kamala can fly around in Air Force One and play President. All of a sudden, she has the power of Executive Action and incumbency.

Bottom line is this was totally predictable. I called it here on MM months ago that this is exactly what would happen. I even said I thought the Dems were baiting the GOP to run Trump. That's what happened. Now the Repubs are stuck with maybe the most polarizing political figure in a century, carrying the weight of a history of ageist attacks, erstwhile they can't really formulate a good strategy against Kamala outside of NewsMax & FNC; whose viewers were never undecided anyway.

When the Dems pulled the rug out and switched the teams up in the fourth quarter, all of a sudden the lines of attack on Hunter Biden's troubles and Joe Biden's age were useless. Trump's campaign is on the record that they weren't ready for it and Trump even demanded refunds for the money they spent campaigning against the wrong person.

It's very telling when Biden's team was demanding the mics be off during the debate and Kamala is trying to get them left on. They knew Biden wasn't up to the task, but Kamala knows Trump is his own worst enemy and the more he talks, the less likely he is to get elected.

Go rewatch the Harris/Pence debate and you'll see she's a formidable opponent in that forum.

GOP were caught with their pants down and shouldn't have been. This was an unforced error... just like demanding Biden step down would be.

Trump's team is trying to get him to stay on point, he even admitted as much at a rally a few days ago. He just can't help himself and he's unable to then focus on why he SHOULD get elected... instead focusing on why to NOT elect the other side. It's a bad spot for a candidate to be in.
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GMAFB.

As soon as Harris takes a debate or interview that isn’t a softball I may listen to you but there is a reason she is being hidden.

A month ago she was the lowest rated vp in history and no matter how much sugar you dump on her she’s still a turd. She was also the most left senator and all the right turns in the world still take her left.

For crying out loud….she’s now being hailed as tough on the border and crime!!! She bailed out rioters!!! She left the border wide open! She’s now even against electrical vehicle mandates, are you fk’n kidding me. Tell me why she is flipping on EVERY Fk’ing issue?

Basically she’s trying to run as a republican!

I thought you were somewhat smart but I can see your just another msm stooge who will believe whatever bs they push despite all that is plainly in front of you.

Btw, Biden has been on vacation everyday since the dnc. Who is running the country….same people who’ve been running it for the past 4 years, and it will be no different if Kamala is elected. Democracy the dems religiously say….wafj.
 
grizzly said:
We all saw what happened the last four years; if anything that's more reason to question electing a 78 year old again, not less.

Should Biden step down? I'm not sure. I definitely don't want him making decisions in a crisis, though I don't want Kamala making those decisions either. We do have Constitutional safeguards in place, if needed, but neither option is good.

I don't think Republicans want Biden to step down because then Kamala can fly around in Air Force One and play President. All of a sudden, she has the power of Executive Action and incumbency.

Bottom line is this was totally predictable. I called it here on MM months ago that this is exactly what would happen. I even said I thought the Dems were baiting the GOP to run Trump. That's what happened. Now the Repubs are stuck with maybe the most polarizing political figure in a century, carrying the weight of a history of ageist attacks, erstwhile they can't really formulate a good strategy against Kamala outside of NewsMax & FNC; whose viewers were never undecided anyway.

When the Dems pulled the rug out and switched the teams up in the fourth quarter, all of a sudden the lines of attack on Hunter Biden's troubles and Joe Biden's age were useless. Trump's campaign is on the record that they weren't ready for it and Trump even demanded refunds for the money they spent campaigning against the wrong person.

It's very telling when Biden's team was demanding the mics be off during the debate and Kamala is trying to get them left on. They knew Biden wasn't up to the task, but Kamala knows Trump is his own worst enemy and the more he talks, the less likely he is to get elected.

Go rewatch the Harris/Pence debate and you'll see she's a formidable opponent in that forum.

GOP were caught with their pants down and shouldn't have been. This was an unforced error... just like demanding Biden step down would be.

Trump's team is trying to get him to stay on point, he even admitted as much at a rally a few days ago. He just can't help himself and he's unable to then focus on why he SHOULD get elected... instead focusing on why to NOT elect the other side. It's a bad spot for a candidate to be in.
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all I’m getting at is the media coverage is wild. You can go back before the Biden trump debate. And almost every media personality was swooning over Biden’s cognitive abilities. It’s basically forced amnesia for the country. I don’t love the idea of any geezer being president (Trump included). But I can compare my life to when Trump was president vs Biden/harrris, and it’s a no brainer for me. Not that my opinion really matters.
 
1989Cohunter said:
Yeah but have your heard Biden talk? Or walk? I’m by no means trump lover. But it’s kinda rough to watch the media go after trump on age now. Just because the machine selected another candidate doesn’t take away that Biden is still the president. Should he step down?
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Have you heard TRUMP speak? Not only is he poorly informed on most matters, but the worst part is that he actually believes that it is everyone else who is mistaken and so refuses to consider his own ignorance. In the end, the media is correct to question that capacity of each to govern.
 
bullskin said:
Have you heard TRUMP speak? Not only is he poorly informed on most matters, but the worst part is that he actually believes that it is everyone else who is mistaken and so refuses to consider his own ignorance. In the end, the media is correct to question that capacity of each to govern.
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Do you have 5 examples?
 
bullskin said:
Have you heard TRUMP speak? Not only is he poorly informed on most matters, but the worst part is that he actually believes that it is everyone else who is mistaken and so refuses to consider his own ignorance. In the end, the media is correct to question that capacity of each to govern.
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I think you’re missing the point I’m getting at. It’s fair and in my opinion good for the media to have scrutiny with any politician. But it’s very obviously biased. Had Biden performed decent in the debate I think he would still be on the ticket. And the media you know would be covering for him completely. I’m all for the media holding Trump to the fire. They absolutely should, but it should go both ways. Neither Trump or Harris should be propped up as pop culture figures. They are politicians.
 
1989Cohunter said:
I think you’re missing the point I’m getting at. It’s fair and in my opinion good for the media to have scrutiny with any politician. But it’s very obviously biased. Had Biden performed decent in the debate I think he would still be on the ticket. And the media you know would be covering for him completely. I’m all for the media holding Trump to the fire. They absolutely should, but it should go both ways. Neither Trump or Harris should be propped up as pop culture figures. They are politicians.
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This is the crux of the problem. Go back to 2015 with Obama/Clinton spying on the Trump campaign, Russia collusion hoax, etc all the way up to covering for Harris/Biden. How different would this country be today if we had an honest/impartial media.

The dems never admit the media corruption/influence/protection it provides to their party.
 
RookieWYhntr said:
Do you have 5 examples?
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Of Trump stumbling during speeches or saying incoherent or confused statements? Sure.

Would you like videos or written examples? There are plenty of supercut videos of Trump totally losing his train of thought, saying sounds that aren't words, or entirely incoherent phrases. Once he realizes it, he always goes, "How about Sean Hannity? Don't we all love Sean Hannity?" And the crowd cheers. Then he changes the subject and goes somewhere else.

He's done it probably hundreds of times in the last few years. FNC would show all of Biden's brainfarts, but never showed you Trump's so you don't see them unless you get your information from other sources. And social media has altered their algorithms so you only see what you want to see because you'll stay there longer if you agree with it.

Here's five quick examples for you though, just off the top of my head.

1. Inject bleach
2. Border with Colorado
3. George Washington taking over the airports
4. I beat Obama (he confuses Obama with Hillary often)
5. Sharks or electrocution

Bonus. Great man, Hannibal Lecter
 
grizzly said:
Of Trump stumbling during speeches or saying incoherent or confused statements? Sure.

Would you like videos or written examples? There are plenty of supercut videos of Trump totally losing his train of thought, saying sounds that aren't words, or entirely incoherent phrases. Once he realizes it, he always goes, "How about Sean Hannity? Don't we all love Sean Hannity?" And the crowd cheers. Then he changes the subject and goes somewhere else.

He's done it probably hundreds of times in the last few years. FNC would show all of Biden's brainfarts, but never showed you Trump's so you don't see them unless you get your information from other sources. And social media has altered their algorithms so you only see what you want to see because you'll stay there longer if you agree with it.

Here's five quick examples for you though, just off the top of my head.

1. Inject bleach
2. Border with Colorado
3. George Washington taking over the airports
4. I beat Obama (he confuses Obama with Hillary often)
5. Sharks or electrocution

Bonus. Great man, Hannibal Lecter
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It sounds like we all find ourselves in our respected echo chambers. I’m not defending Trump, and I do think he still should take a cognitive test. I believe anyone running should have to. You said above you don’t trust Biden in a crisis. You seem plenty smart enough we could find ourselves in a crisis at literally any point. So where would that put us?
 
Flyjunky12 said:
This is the crux of the problem. Go back to 2015 with Obama/Clinton spying on the Trump campaign, Russia collusion hoax, etc all the way up to covering for Harris/Biden. How different would this country be today if we had an honest/impartial media.

The dems never admit the media corruption/influence/protection it provides to their party.
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Agreed. You realize that FNC is just as bad though, right?

Just yesterday Jesse Watters had a whole segment on Harris trailing in all the battleground states and not getting a Convention Bounce.

FNC's own polling shows Harris got a 4-point bounce and now leads in three battleground states.

But, if you watch their show and don't go check their own polling information, you'd believe the entirely wrong thing. Their TV personalities and their own information say entirely different things; that's the crux of why they paid nearly a billion dollars in a defamation lawsuit. Because their internal emails proved that what they said on-air was a lie and they knew it. They just told their viewers what they wanted to hear for ratings.

Further, if you watch their shows because you think it's the truth, but then discard their polling because it doesn't say what you want, then you're lying to yourself to make yourself feel better.

Fox and NBC are both hiding the truth from their viewers.
 
1989Cohunter said:
It sounds like we all find ourselves in our respected echo chambers. I’m not defending Trump, and I do think he still should take a cognitive test. I believe anyone running should have to. You said above you don’t trust Biden in a crisis. You seem plenty smart enough we could find ourselves in a crisis at literally any point. So where would that put us?
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My take? We're in a bad spot.

Focus on taking care of yourself and your family. You can't fix Washington, especially by continuing to vote for the choices they give us.

Become educated, leave your echo chamber. Vote for people you want, not the people that are chosen for you by corrupt systems. And pray the pendulum will swing back.
 
grizzly said:
My take? We're in a bad spot.

Focus on taking care of yourself and your family. You can't fix Washington, especially by continuing to vote for the choices they give us.

Become educated, leave your echo chamber. Vote for people you want, not the people that are chosen for you by corrupt systems. And pray the pendulum will swing back.
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Fair enough, I agree. By no means do I think it’s just the left that propagandizes the media. But I do believe the left has more control over the media currently. There isn’t a single main stream media source that I truly believe.
 
grizzly said:
Agreed. You realize that FNC is just as bad though, right?

Just yesterday Jesse Watters had a whole segment on Harris trailing in all the battleground states and not getting a Convention Bounce.

FNC's own polling shows Harris got a 4-point bounce and now leads in three battleground states.

But, if you watch their show and don't go check their own polling information, you'd believe the entirely wrong thing. Their TV personalities and their own information say entirely different things; that's the crux of why they paid nearly a billion dollars in a defamation lawsuit. Because their internal emails proved that what they said on-air was a lie and they knew it. They just told their viewers what they wanted to hear for ratings.

Further, if you watch their shows because you think it's the truth, but then discard their polling because it doesn't say what you want, then you're lying to yourself to make yourself feel better.

Fox and NBC are both hiding the truth from their viewers.
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I don’t watch any msm at all, zero.

All my news comes from Greenwald, Shellenberger, Devine, Kelly, Berenson, Taibbi to name a few.
 
1989Cohunter said:
Fair enough, I agree. By no means do I think it’s just the left that propagandizes the media. But I do believe the left has more control over the media currently. There isn’t a single main stream media source that I truly believe.
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Anyone who thinks the left doesn’t control virtually ALL media hasn’t been paying attention. Covid and then the Biden coverup should have made that clear.
 
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Flyjunky12 said:
You don't think there was election interference by the FBI?
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60 lawsuits, not a shred of election interference.

Oh, let me guess 2000 mules of whatever TF that nonsense is.

Or perhaps the judges, even those appointed by trump were corrupt.

campaignlegal.org

Results of Lawsuits Regarding the 2020 Elections

The various claims of evidence alleging a stolen 2020 election have been exhaustively investigated and litigated. Judges heard claims of illegal voting and found they were without merit. (Learn more about how the changes that have happened since 2020 will affect the 2024 election and...
campaignlegal.org campaignlegal.org

JFC people are gullible and ignorant.
 
BuzzH said:
60 lawsuits, not a shred of election interference.

Oh, let me guess 2000 mules of whatever TF that nonsense is.

Or perhaps the judges, even those appointed by trump were corrupt.

campaignlegal.org

Results of Lawsuits Regarding the 2020 Elections

The various claims of evidence alleging a stolen 2020 election have been exhaustively investigated and litigated. Judges heard claims of illegal voting and found they were without merit. (Learn more about how the changes that have happened since 2020 will affect the 2024 election and...
campaignlegal.org campaignlegal.org

JFC people are gullible and ignorant.
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You continue to be wrong!

www.foxnews.com

Zuckerberg, expressing regrets, admits bowing to Biden administration pressure to remove content

Mark Zuckerberg, in a letter to House Judiciary Chairman Jim Jordan, has accepted responsibility and expressed regret for caving to pressure from the White House to censor some COVID-19 content.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com
 
BuzzH said:
60 lawsuits, not a shred of election interference.

Oh, let me guess 2000 mules of whatever TF that nonsense is.

Or perhaps the judges, even those appointed by trump were corrupt.

campaignlegal.org

Results of Lawsuits Regarding the 2020 Elections

The various claims of evidence alleging a stolen 2020 election have been exhaustively investigated and litigated. Judges heard claims of illegal voting and found they were without merit. (Learn more about how the changes that have happened since 2020 will affect the 2024 election and...
campaignlegal.org campaignlegal.org

JFC people are gullible and ignorant.
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JFC, you’re a damn moron. I hope you’re just trolling because you can’t be this stupid.

Zuckerberg admitted he censored the laptop story at the behest of the FBI. Just like they hid his China and Ukraine grifting until he dropped out.
 
Flyjunky12 said:
JFC, you’re a damn moron. I hope you’re just trolling because you can’t be this stupid.

Zuckerberg admitted he censored the laptop story at the behest of the FBI. Just like they hid his China and Ukraine grifting until he dropped out.
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You keep beating dead horses, like trump, and you're going to continue to be a loser. Laptop Derangement Syndrome.

He's toast if he doesn't get his head out of his arse, FACT.

That makes me pretty bad, I could use a mid-high 20% returns on my investments for the next 4 years.

Not that I'm complaining about nearly 19% this year, but I think trump will continue to help the companies I'm heavily invested in.
 
BuzzH said:
Gullible and ignorant, with a side of crazy.

WAFJ.

I think I'll believe the courts before Howard Kurtz.
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You do know that Zuckerberg has admitted it to congress, he has written a letter detailing how they Whitehouse pressured him to hold information back concerning covid-19, he details how the FBI told him nit to allow the Hunter Biden laptop.
Maybe you should try reading the article.
 
notdonhunting said:
You do know that Zuckerberg has admitted it to congress, he has written a letter detailing how they Whitehouse pressured him to hold information back concerning covid-19, he details how the FBI told him nit to allow the Hunter Biden laptop.
Maybe you should try reading the article.
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I did read the article, where in the actual F is the proof of election fraud, 🤡?
 
If you can not understand using the media to concil information that wiuld have most certainly would have cost Biden the election, and probably would have warrented charges against Biden. You are too stupid to wast my time.
 
notdonhunting said:
If you can not understand using the media to concil information that wiuld have most certainly would have cost Biden the election, and probably would have warrented charges against Biden. You are too stupid to wast my time.
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Rough night on the cheap vodka?

Not sure what "concil" "wiuld" "warrented", and "wast" mean, those are not words used in the English language.

It's almost as if you're too stupid to pass a 3rd grade spelling test.
 
Easy There BuzzH!

Anybody With Any SMARTS At All Knows What notdons Saying!

BuzzH said:
Rough night on the cheap vodka?

Not sure what "concil" "wiuld" "warrented", and "wast" mean, those are not words used in the English language.

It's almost as if you're too stupid to pass a 3rd grade spelling test.
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