Elkslayer2015
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MULEY you have spent time on there?
Spider Bull Legacy
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Elkslayer2015
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well it's only one video this is a very common thing from what I'm hearing where did you find it do you have a link?
Elkslayer2015
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My Apologies I thought I read something different.no it doesn't need to be on the internet to be true your right hell I just found out the bull was wounded.
Carnage2011
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>Another "legacy" that came of it,
>there will NEVER be another
>bull "slip" through.
>I listened to Jay Scott interview
>DC outfitter. Dude runs
>135 trail cams on the
>Dutton.
>He's a tiny outfitter. How
>many thousand does Mossback run?
>
>
>Planes, choppers, cams, finders fees.
>That is the legacy.
>
>From the party of HUNTIN, FISHIN,
>PUBLIC LAND.
He doesn't run 135 cameras on the Dutton....and he may be tiny, but he is the most consistent elk outfitter in Utah right now.
>there will NEVER be another
>bull "slip" through.
>I listened to Jay Scott interview
>DC outfitter. Dude runs
>135 trail cams on the
>Dutton.
>He's a tiny outfitter. How
>many thousand does Mossback run?
>
>
>Planes, choppers, cams, finders fees.
>That is the legacy.
>
>From the party of HUNTIN, FISHIN,
>PUBLIC LAND.
He doesn't run 135 cameras on the Dutton....and he may be tiny, but he is the most consistent elk outfitter in Utah right now.
hossblur
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>>Another "legacy" that came of it,
>>there will NEVER be another
>>bull "slip" through.
>>I listened to Jay Scott interview
>>DC outfitter. Dude runs
>>135 trail cams on the
>>Dutton.
>>He's a tiny outfitter. How
>>many thousand does Mossback run?
>>
>>
>>Planes, choppers, cams, finders fees.
>>That is the legacy.
>>
>>From the party of HUNTIN, FISHIN,
>>PUBLIC LAND.
>
>
>He doesn't run 135 cameras on
>the Dutton....and he may be
>tiny, but he is the
>most consistent elk outfitter in
>Utah right now.
Didn't say he wasn't consistent.
And he isn't the only outfitter on the Dutton. Bet there's fewer cameras on a Hollywood sound stage.
And yeah, he did say he pretty much concentrates on the Dutton. And he did say 135. If its 100, is that less ridiculous? 50?
From the party of HUNTIN, FISHIN, PUBLIC LAND.
>>there will NEVER be another
>>bull "slip" through.
>>I listened to Jay Scott interview
>>DC outfitter. Dude runs
>>135 trail cams on the
>>Dutton.
>>He's a tiny outfitter. How
>>many thousand does Mossback run?
>>
>>
>>Planes, choppers, cams, finders fees.
>>That is the legacy.
>>
>>From the party of HUNTIN, FISHIN,
>>PUBLIC LAND.
>
>
>He doesn't run 135 cameras on
>the Dutton....and he may be
>tiny, but he is the
>most consistent elk outfitter in
>Utah right now.
Didn't say he wasn't consistent.
And he isn't the only outfitter on the Dutton. Bet there's fewer cameras on a Hollywood sound stage.
And yeah, he did say he pretty much concentrates on the Dutton. And he did say 135. If its 100, is that less ridiculous? 50?
From the party of HUNTIN, FISHIN, PUBLIC LAND.
one_dryboot
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>And yeah, he did say he
>pretty much concentrates on the
>Dutton. And he did
>say 135. If its
>100, is that less ridiculous?
> 50?
Not Dutton....
>pretty much concentrates on the
>Dutton. And he did
>say 135. If its
>100, is that less ridiculous?
> 50?
Not Dutton....
Vanilla
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Hoss, sorry but you're wrong on DC Outfitters. Ryan has stated many times he loves the Dutton, but that is not where his focus is, nor where all those cameras are.
I listened to the same podcast. You need to go listen again.
And yes, those guys are killing GIANTS every year now. Maybe the 400+ inch offspring of the Spider Bull????
I listened to the same podcast. You need to go listen again.
And yes, those guys are killing GIANTS every year now. Maybe the 400+ inch offspring of the Spider Bull????
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Nunya said it best.
Why would his offspring have a crazy set, if His set was because of a injury.
No sign of offspring, Could be a lot of them they just might be regular 370 class bulls.
The only way to know is a DNA test from him and any other bulls that have been killed on the 4 mountains.
I for one don't believe a RANCH bull could live on that mountain for a few months with the amount of Bears and Lions that are there.
"I have found if you go the extra mile it's Never crowded".
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Why would his offspring have a crazy set, if His set was because of a injury.
No sign of offspring, Could be a lot of them they just might be regular 370 class bulls.
The only way to know is a DNA test from him and any other bulls that have been killed on the 4 mountains.
I for one don't believe a RANCH bull could live on that mountain for a few months with the amount of Bears and Lions that are there.
"I have found if you go the extra mile it's Never crowded".
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elkassassin
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>Nunya said it best.
>Why would his offspring have a
>crazy set, if His set
>was because of a injury.
>
>No sign of offspring, Could be
>a lot of them they
>just might be regular 370
>class bulls.
>
>The only way to know is
>a DNA test from him
>and any other bulls that
>have been killed on the
>4 mountains.
>
>I for one don't believe a
>RANCH bull could live on
>that mountain for a few
>months with the amount of
>Bears and Lions that are
>there.
>
>
>"I have found if you go
>the extra mile it's Never
>crowded".
>>[Font][Font color = "green"]Life member of
>>the MM green signature club.[font/]
'Just Regular 370" Bulls'?
You Guys act Like a 370"ER is a PISSCUTTER!
Mark My word on this one:
It Ain't Far off & 350"ERS will be Top End Bulls here in TARDville!
But BY GAWD We'll Have The Age Objectives Down where the UDWR & the DINK SHOOTERS think they should be!
It Ain't Easy being Me!
>Why would his offspring have a
>crazy set, if His set
>was because of a injury.
>
>No sign of offspring, Could be
>a lot of them they
>just might be regular 370
>class bulls.
>
>The only way to know is
>a DNA test from him
>and any other bulls that
>have been killed on the
>4 mountains.
>
>I for one don't believe a
>RANCH bull could live on
>that mountain for a few
>months with the amount of
>Bears and Lions that are
>there.
>
>
>"I have found if you go
>the extra mile it's Never
>crowded".
>>[Font][Font color = "green"]Life member of
>>the MM green signature club.[font/]
'Just Regular 370" Bulls'?
You Guys act Like a 370"ER is a PISSCUTTER!
Mark My word on this one:
It Ain't Far off & 350"ERS will be Top End Bulls here in TARDville!
But BY GAWD We'll Have The Age Objectives Down where the UDWR & the DINK SHOOTERS think they should be!
It Ain't Easy being Me!
hossblur
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>Hoss, sorry but you're wrong on
>DC Outfitters. Ryan has stated
>many times he loves the
>Dutton, but that is not
>where his focus is, nor
>where all those cameras are.
>
>
>I listened to the same podcast.
>You need to go listen
>again.
>
>And yes, those guys are killing
>GIANTS every year now. Maybe
>the 400+ inch offspring of
>the Spider Bull????
He runs 135. Of that his guys each run about 20 a piece. Once he gets his hit list he reorfanizes his cams.
The point is, the legacy is that extremes that are gone to to shoot an elk. To the point that a guide living in Spanish Fork can "scout" the Dutton and kill the biggest bulls on it.
From the party of HUNTIN, FISHIN, PUBLIC LAND.
>DC Outfitters. Ryan has stated
>many times he loves the
>Dutton, but that is not
>where his focus is, nor
>where all those cameras are.
>
>
>I listened to the same podcast.
>You need to go listen
>again.
>
>And yes, those guys are killing
>GIANTS every year now. Maybe
>the 400+ inch offspring of
>the Spider Bull????
He runs 135. Of that his guys each run about 20 a piece. Once he gets his hit list he reorfanizes his cams.
The point is, the legacy is that extremes that are gone to to shoot an elk. To the point that a guide living in Spanish Fork can "scout" the Dutton and kill the biggest bulls on it.
From the party of HUNTIN, FISHIN, PUBLIC LAND.
Gator
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Sorry to pull your chain Cat But on those units there are REGULAR 370 class bulls every year, Now they might never tape out to a 370 class Bull, BUT they will be called 370 class all day long.
LOL
"I have found if you go the extra mile it's Never crowded".
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LOL
"I have found if you go the extra mile it's Never crowded".
>[Font][Font color = "green"]Life member of
>the MM green signature club.[font/]
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LAST EDITED ON Apr-07-18 AT 08:34AM (MST)[p]When I had a Fish Lake elk tag I remember stopping in a gas station 8n Loa. I believe it was a gas station anyways, I can't really remember. Anyway there was a shed in that store that reminded me of spyder bull. However it was only a five point I believe, could have been a 6 with a small 5th point can't remember that either, but it was extremely heavy and blunted tips like the Spyder.
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I know people personally that run a high fence in Colorado for sure not my thing but nice people their Bulls are 500-600 plus and they said FOR sure it was a ranch bull adding they know the genetics....its their business...
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I can see many of precious posters points . The issue I have is also the amount of $$$ paid for this bull to be killed . O personally don't think he was a farm bureau but I could be wrong. I personally have had encounters (brief) with an ENORMOUS non typical that is over the 450 mark. The has a club that has to be 3' long. As soon as the rut is over he's a ghost. Even during it's a chore to even get a glimpse. I think I know where he winters but it's some of the most secluded, inaccessible places in the wilderness. No shed has been found and we have known he's been there for 5 years at least . Just my 2 cents.
Why would anyone drop 40+k on a Ranch bull then release it weeks before the hunt then risk a Archery hunter shooting it before Austad could even start to hunt. And since some on here think it was a very domestic ranch bill why after Austad missed it didn't a archer, Rifle or a muzzloader hunter find it with it being such a domestic Ranch bull???
Also keep in mind Denny could afford to hunt any unit anywhere.
What makes more sense this or the fact that a great bull got killed on public land and some people are just jealous and want to criticize a great bull.
Also keep in mind Denny could afford to hunt any unit anywhere.
What makes more sense this or the fact that a great bull got killed on public land and some people are just jealous and want to criticize a great bull.
>Why would anyone drop 40+k on
>a Ranch bull then
>release it weeks before the
>hunt then risk a Archery
>hunter shooting it before Austad
>could even start to hunt.
>And since some on here
>think it was a very
>domestic ranch bill why after
>Austad missed it didn't a
>archer, Rifle or a muzzloader
>hunter find it with it
>being such a domestic Ranch
>bull???
>
It was well gaurded by the sounds of it.
#livelikezac
>a Ranch bull then
>release it weeks before the
>hunt then risk a Archery
>hunter shooting it before Austad
>could even start to hunt.
>And since some on here
>think it was a very
>domestic ranch bill why after
>Austad missed it didn't a
>archer, Rifle or a muzzloader
>hunter find it with it
>being such a domestic Ranch
>bull???
>
It was well gaurded by the sounds of it.
#livelikezac
elkassassin
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>Why would anyone drop 40+k on
>a Ranch bull then
>release it weeks before the
>hunt then risk a Archery
>hunter shooting it before Austad
>could even start to hunt.
>And since some on here
>think it was a very
>domestic ranch bill why after
>Austad missed it didn't a
>archer, Rifle or a muzzloader
>hunter find it with it
>being such a domestic Ranch
>bull???
>Also keep in mind Denny could
>afford to hunt any unit
>anywhere.
>
>What makes more sense this or
>the fact that a great
>bull got killed on public
>land and some people are
>just jealous and want to
>criticize a great bull.
Hey UTH!
Pay Close Attention to Post # 32!
Alot of You Still Don't get it with it Staring You Right in the Face!
HINT:
Forget about the Ranch Bull Part of the Story for just a few Minutes!
JUDAS!
I know so many people in so many places
They make allot of money but they got sad faces
It Ain't Easy being Me!
>a Ranch bull then
>release it weeks before the
>hunt then risk a Archery
>hunter shooting it before Austad
>could even start to hunt.
>And since some on here
>think it was a very
>domestic ranch bill why after
>Austad missed it didn't a
>archer, Rifle or a muzzloader
>hunter find it with it
>being such a domestic Ranch
>bull???
>Also keep in mind Denny could
>afford to hunt any unit
>anywhere.
>
>What makes more sense this or
>the fact that a great
>bull got killed on public
>land and some people are
>just jealous and want to
>criticize a great bull.
Hey UTH!
Pay Close Attention to Post # 32!
Alot of You Still Don't get it with it Staring You Right in the Face!
HINT:
Forget about the Ranch Bull Part of the Story for just a few Minutes!
JUDAS!
I know so many people in so many places
They make allot of money but they got sad faces
It Ain't Easy being Me!
Robiland
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>>Why would anyone drop 40+k on
>>a Ranch bull then
>>release it weeks before the
>>hunt then risk a Archery
>>hunter shooting it before Austad
>>could even start to hunt.
>>And since some on here
>>think it was a very
>>domestic ranch bill why after
>>Austad missed it didn't a
>>archer, Rifle or a muzzloader
>>hunter find it with it
>>being such a domestic Ranch
>>bull???
>>Also keep in mind Denny could
>>afford to hunt any unit
>>anywhere.
>>
>>What makes more sense this or
>>the fact that a great
>>bull got killed on public
>>land and some people are
>>just jealous and want to
>>criticize a great bull.
>
>Hey UTH!
>
>Pay Close Attention to Post #
>32!
>
>Alot of You Still Don't get
>it with it Staring You
>Right in the Face!
>
>HINT:
>
>Forget about the Ranch Bull Part
>of the Story for just
>a few Minutes!
>
>JUDAS!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>I know so many people in
>so many places
>They make allot of money but
>they got sad faces
>
>It Ain't Easy being Me!
I agree with post 32. Sounds perfectly logical even down the the disclaimer. BUT>>>>>>.......the thing that is funny is ot hear the ranchers and people claim that they had seen this bull the previous years. 2 things dont add up. SO who knows what really is true, lol!!!
>>a Ranch bull then
>>release it weeks before the
>>hunt then risk a Archery
>>hunter shooting it before Austad
>>could even start to hunt.
>>And since some on here
>>think it was a very
>>domestic ranch bill why after
>>Austad missed it didn't a
>>archer, Rifle or a muzzloader
>>hunter find it with it
>>being such a domestic Ranch
>>bull???
>>Also keep in mind Denny could
>>afford to hunt any unit
>>anywhere.
>>
>>What makes more sense this or
>>the fact that a great
>>bull got killed on public
>>land and some people are
>>just jealous and want to
>>criticize a great bull.
>
>Hey UTH!
>
>Pay Close Attention to Post #
>32!
>
>Alot of You Still Don't get
>it with it Staring You
>Right in the Face!
>
>HINT:
>
>Forget about the Ranch Bull Part
>of the Story for just
>a few Minutes!
>
>JUDAS!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>I know so many people in
>so many places
>They make allot of money but
>they got sad faces
>
>It Ain't Easy being Me!
I agree with post 32. Sounds perfectly logical even down the the disclaimer. BUT>>>>>>.......the thing that is funny is ot hear the ranchers and people claim that they had seen this bull the previous years. 2 things dont add up. SO who knows what really is true, lol!!!
Cbat
I have seen minerals make 150+ inches on a bull from one year to another.
I am curious what hormones would do as a animal that's wounded in the right spot could change the way it's natural hormones affect it??
We do not mess with hormone additives as it is hard on animals but I've seen whitetail breeders use it to make monsters.
I have seen minerals make 150+ inches on a bull from one year to another.
I am curious what hormones would do as a animal that's wounded in the right spot could change the way it's natural hormones affect it??
We do not mess with hormone additives as it is hard on animals but I've seen whitetail breeders use it to make monsters.
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?Readers will discover, for example, that Buckner confirmed at least 55 other hunters were hunting the area where the record bull was taken, that local law enforcement personnel investigated but found no evidence that the bull was pen-raised or escaped from a pen, nor any illegal conduct, and that many hunter-based conservation groups contributed to the quality of the area?s habitat.
Web site visitors can also explore the many Club policies that govern official records keeping, such as required fair-chase methods, antler drying periods and more.?
https://www.boone-crockett.org/bgrecords/records_newwr2.asp?area=bgRecords
Web site visitors can also explore the many Club policies that govern official records keeping, such as required fair-chase methods, antler drying periods and more.?
https://www.boone-crockett.org/bgrecords/records_newwr2.asp?area=bgRecords
ihunt4200
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?Readers will discover, for example, that Buckner confirmed at least 55 other hunters were hunting the area where the record bull was taken, that local law enforcement personnel investigated but found no evidence that the bull was pen-raised or escaped from a pen, nor any illegal conduct, and that many hunter-based conservation groups contributed to the quality of the area?s habitat?
Mhttps://www.boone-crockett.org/bgrecords/records_newwr2.asp?area=bgRecords
Mhttps://www.boone-crockett.org/bgrecords/records_newwr2.asp?area=bgRecords
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Tikka, was wandering through past posts and I didn't see this one.
Where did the young lady kill that massive bull?
Wow!
Thanks for your time
Joe
"Sometimes you do things wrong for so long you
think their right" - 2001
"I can't argue with honesty" - 2005
-Joe E Sikora
Where did the young lady kill that massive bull?
Wow!
Thanks for your time
Joe
"Sometimes you do things wrong for so long you
think their right" - 2001
"I can't argue with honesty" - 2005
-Joe E Sikora
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(Big Nasty)!!!!!! Looking through old threads and found this gem! this is me holding them about 6 years ago. My uncles and I were out shed hunting and my uncle found these bad boys. He is a well known southern utah bull. Years and years of trail cam photos of him. I have seen one other set of sheds but that's it. People with the trail cams of him all believe hes no longer walking. Crazy a bull can live and die on the mountain for years on years.Saw these sheds posted up as having been picked up recently in Utah...curious as to where because there are a few things about them that look kinda familiar but I just can't seem to remember why? Surely no other bull I can think of that has that type of mass to the tips of the tines and such a strange configuration...
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