Globe Front Sight

CHWino_1 · Jul 10, 2024

Mounted up and ready to shoot. What a difference compared to the single post I had there before.

Mallardsx2 · Jul 10, 2024

Ordered one of those for my kids Wolf V2 yesterday. Should have it on there by the end of the week.

HIcountryman · Jul 10, 2024

I was thinking of moving from crosshairs to a single post... really hard to see crosshairs at low light. Thinking for the other close shots the insert type won't matter much

CHWino_1 · Jul 10, 2024

I think the circle with fine crosshairs will be tough in low light. I think the heavier plex crosshairs might be better.

Mallardsx2 · Jul 10, 2024

I ordered the fiber insert and plan on letting kiddo decide what she likes the best.

diablo · Jul 10, 2024

Even with an adjustable aperture, those crosshair inserts don’t work for me. I like the small fiber optic insert. And you can combine that with one of the crosshair options if you like.

yotebuster17 · Jul 10, 2024

I love the finest crosshair one that comes in the Lee Shaver insert kit. My newest sight set from Bad to the Bone has wrapped fiber optic, which is nice in low light but the trade off is it’s bulkier at long range.

Mallardsx2 · Jul 15, 2024

Put the Williams sight on my kid's muzzleloader today. Took it outside and quickly realized that I couldn't see the front sight......I had her come out to see what she thought, and she said "What do you mean it's not clear? It looks awesome!"

I ended up putting in the fine crosshair and the fiber optic stacked because that's what she liked the best.

I couldn't even see the crosshairs. I'm going to have to go to the eye doctor.... again. I have to see what is going on to get the gun sighted in at least. My eyes are getting so crappy as I age.

I'm going to go sob by myself now. lol

Sweet little setup though.

PS: The screw(s) that came with the sight were all too long by ~.030 and I had to make a trip to the grinder.....

diablo · Jul 15, 2024

Mallardsx2 said:
Put the Williams sight on my kid's muzzleloader today. Took it outside and quickly realized that I couldn't see the front sight......I had her come out to see what she thought, and she said "What do you mean it's not clear? It looks awesome!"

I ended up putting in the fine crosshair and the fiber optic stacked because that's what she liked the best.

I couldn't even see the crosshairs. I'm going to have to go to the eye doctor.... again. I have to see what is going on to get the gun sighted in at least. My eyes are getting so crappy as I age.

I'm going to go sob by myself now. lol

Sweet little setup though.

PS: The screw(s) that came with the sight were all too long by ~.030 and I had to make a trip to the grinder.....

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Happens to the best of us. Sounds like you need an adjustable aperture to bring the front sight into focus (like I do).

Mallardsx2 · Jul 15, 2024

Admittedly, I know very little about peep sights. Is that legal to use in Colorado?

I just need something to sight in the gun. My daughter can see the sights fine.

diablo · Jul 15, 2024

Mallardsx2 said:
Admittedly, I know very little about peep sights. Is that legal to use in Colorado?

Absolutely. An adjustable aperture just allows you to enlarge or (usually) reduce the size hole you’re looking through so that the eye can focus on the front sight. It’s an aperture/depth of field optical phenomenon.

Sight Radius, Iron Sight Aperture, and Target Fideility - The New Rifleman

Focus on the front sight, crystal clear... pull the trigger slowly to the rear. Ding! Hit! The above mantra is baked into many a seasoned rifleman's mind. If it isn't baked into your own mind, perhaps you entered the world of the AR15 in the post iron sights era. Hey, it's not a bad thing,

thenewrifleman.com

VIA for AR-15/A2

Makers of adjustable apertures that allow shooters of all ages to see their sights and target clearly.

www.meritcorporation.com

Mallardsx2 · Jul 15, 2024

Wow. Thanks for posting that! I’m going to order one of those little buggers and throw it on there.

diablo · Jul 15, 2024

The Merits are out of production. But you may find one on eBay. This is another option.

510-S Gehmann rearsight iris | 288FBF3BD7B940E5839144068EC94B08

Much shorter and adjustable over a wider range of 0.5 - 3.0mm The fixed-seat iris works with individually pin-located tempered spring steel leaves The aim-point is precisely maintained through the wider range of adjustment by the introduction of a new sy…

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Mallardsx2 · Jul 16, 2024

After testing things by covering up part of the aperture hole and convincing myself that that black magic you showed me works lol , I ordered a new standard diameter aperture with a .050 hole in this this morning. $15 from midway.

We shall see is that helps me. Those adjustable apertures cost a lot of money so I figured I would give this a try...

Once I get the gun sighted in, I can just switch it back to kiddo's aperture and move on with life.

CHWino_1 · Aug 17, 2024

FINALLY got to shoot with a month until my hunt. I did shoot it a couple of weeks ago but at 50 yards it was about 8" low with the rear sight maxed out at the top
Local gunsmith shimmed up the rear sight and today I shot this two shot group at 50. Not bad. Bummer is at 100 I was off the paper and I THINK high. 95 grains triple 7, with 385 lead conical.
Thinking next session will be at 75 and a bigger target.

mevertsen · Aug 17, 2024

Back your charge down to like 70 grains and work up. People seem to want to got rod muzzle loaders.

Max I've ever used with the 385 is 90 grains of Goex or Pyrodex RS, it works fine.

diablo · Aug 17, 2024

CHWino_1 said:
FINALLY got to shoot with a month until my hunt. I did shoot it a couple of weeks ago but at 50 yards it was about 8" low with the rear sight maxed out at the top
Local gunsmith shimmed up the rear sight and today I shot this two shot group at 50. Not bad. Bummer is at 100 I was off the paper and I THINK high. 95 grains triple 7, with 385 lead conical.
Thinking next session will be at 75 and a bigger target.View attachment 154513

Well looks like you got the elevation up to about where it needs to be.

I’ll be a contrarian - I generally start at about 100-110 gr. Something between 100 and 120 gr or so always works for me with conicals up to 600 grains.

6x6 bull · Aug 17, 2024

Any guesses how high I should be at 25 yards with my 325 grain ELR Powerbelts and 110 grains of triple 7? Sighting in my gun with my new Williams sights.

diablo · Aug 17, 2024

6x6 bull said:
Any guesses how high I should be at 25 yards with my 325 grain ELR Powerbelts and 110 grains of triple 7? Sighting in my gun with my new Williams sights.

At 25 you should be at 0 for a 100 yard zero.

6x6 bull · Aug 17, 2024

diablo said:
At 25 you should be at 0 for a 100 yard zero.

Thank you!

Nick87 · Aug 18, 2024

For those that have tried them do you prefer the .019 or the .029 for the front fiber optic?

diablo · Aug 18, 2024

Nick87 said:
For those that have tried them do you prefer the .019 or the .029 for the front fiber optic?

I prefer the .019”

Nick87 · Aug 18, 2024

diablo said:
I prefer the .019”

Thanks. I am sort of torn between being bright enough or being too big and covering too much target.

cammoman33 · Aug 19, 2024

Just ordered the .019 fiber optics in red and green from Williams website. Can’t wait for Colorado in three-ish weeks!

CHWino_1 · Aug 25, 2024

95 grains of triple 7 and the Hornady Bore Driver FTX looks like the ticket. I also swapped out the crosshair type front sight and went with the fine fiber optic post. The two almost touching we're at 25 yds, the other two still in the black we're at 100. Next session will be with the chronograph.

Nick87 · Aug 25, 2024

In probably gonna get torched here but I can't shoot for **** with that williams peep. I'm lucky to get an 8" group at 100 switched back to factory iron sights. And this is what I shot at 100 300 gr. Thor over 100 gr. of 777.

diablo · Aug 25, 2024

Nick87 said:
In probably gonna get torched here but I can't shoot for **** with that williams peep. I'm lucky to get an 8" group at 100 switched back to factory iron sights. And this is what I shot at 100 300 gr. Thor over 100 gr. of 777.
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It’s ok to be different…

Nick87 · Aug 25, 2024

diablo said:
It’s ok to be different…

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Sounds better coming from you then my mom as a kid.

brushcreek · Aug 25, 2024

i ordered the .019 but the post is too big in my opinion. covers up the target at 100 plus yards. I'm going to get some florescent green spray paint and paint one of the original globe inserts and try that.

Servehim · Aug 30, 2024

CHWino_1 said:
FINALLY got to shoot with a month until my hunt. I did shoot it a couple of weeks ago but at 50 yards it was about 8" low with the rear sight maxed out at the top
Local gunsmith shimmed up the rear sight and today I shot this two shot group at 50. Not bad. Bummer is at 100 I was off the paper and I THINK high. 95 grains triple 7, with 385 lead conical.
Thinking next session will be at 75 and a bigger target.View attachment 154513

Not intended to be disrespectful but you best hone your stalking skills in order to get close. That's what's fun about hunting. Best of luck guy's.

CHWino_1 · Aug 31, 2024

Well that comment seems unnecessary but hey, its yours to voice.

cammoman33 · Aug 31, 2024

brushcreek said:
i ordered the .019 but the post is too big in my opinion. covers up the target at 100 plus yards. I'm going to get some florescent green spray paint and paint one of the original globe inserts and try that.

That’s what I did. The .019 are still to big….went to hobby lobby and bought some fluorescent green and orange model car paint