trump really blowing it...out of his arse

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Comparing the medal of honor with presidential medal of freedom?

He's throwing this election on purpose, nobody is this obtuse on accident.

 
Yup this is dumb. Ridiculous to compare heroes that risked everything, that went above & beyond in defense of our country and their brothers in arms... to mostly famous celebrities. This gal got a MOF

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I’d say unbelievable stupid….but nothing coming from Trump should be unbelievable anymore.

The 2 awards are not comparable….by any sane measure.
 
That's just crazy. Both Joe Biden and Bill Cosby received the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Trump really stepped in it this time.
 
NMFROM81 said:
I’d say unbelievable stupid….but nothing coming from Trump should be unbelievable anymore.

The 2 awards are not comparable….by any sane measure.
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I'm going to ask a Command Sergeant Major about the difference, anyone know one? Preferably one who's being to Afghanistan and carried weapons of war while there.

Anyone?
 
hossblur said:
I'm going to ask a Command Sergeant Major about the difference, anyone know one? Preferably one who's being to Afghanistan and carried weapons of war while there.

Anyone?
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Why would you need another opinion hoss? Bone Spurs himself already told you what to think.
 
notdonhunting said:
Buzz, your wet dream might not come true.
https://twitter.com/x/status/1824230006500765863
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You need to stop letting others do your " thinking" for you.

trump is going to lose, and that pisses me off to no end. All he had to do is stay on point and I would be raking in money. Oh no, he has to run his soup cooler about irrelevant bs and step on his own junk everyday. Honestly trump would be better off staying in the basement for the next couple months.

www.notus.org

First Digital Rally of ‘Republicans for Harris’ Draws Big Crowd of ‘Kamala-Curious’

Harris was able to get more than 70,000 people to tune in to the rally, but she still has work to do to get more Republicans to support her.
www.notus.org www.notus.org

www.newsweek.com

Republican who endorsed Kamala Harris pushed to resign from GOP

A Pennsylvania Republican's effort to keep Trump from winning the election is not sitting well with the rest of his party.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com
 
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hossblur said:
I'm going to ask a Command Sergeant Major about the difference, anyone know one? Preferably one who's being to Afghanistan and carried weapons of war while there.

Anyone?
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The Medal of Honor goes to true heroes for our country. The Presidential Medal of Freedom goes to people like Sheldon Adelson's wife for giving money to Trump. Yep, that happened.

Trump is also the guy who refused to visit Normandy because he didn't want to see the people who were killed, and said John McCain wasn't a hero because he "likes the people who weren't captured."

Trump has a history of disdain and disrespect for our military. It goes all the way back to his pretend bone spurs (which somehow people forget about when attacking Walz's military record, and even Vance's record as well.)

PS. Anybody who knows McCain's story and what he went through, even after being given the option of release, and can't respect him as a was hero SHOULD NEVER BE COMMANDER IN CHIEF!
 
trump gave rush limbaugh the Presidential medal of freedom, what more needs to be said about its comparison to the Medal of Honor.

A burned out flunky drug addict that was so ignorant he proclaimed that cigars and cigarettes didn't cause cancer gets one. Yeah, he was right about that as he was dying from lung cancer. Apparently in trumps circle, the presidential medal of freedom is reserved for those who kiss his a$$ with the most gusto.

Anyone that would compare the Medal of Honor with the presidential medal of freedom is divorced from reality and a total loser.
 
BuzzH said:
trump gave rush limbaugh the Presidential medal of freedom, what more needs to be said about its comparison to the Medal of Honor.

A burned out flunky drug addict that was so ignorant he proclaimed that cigars and cigarettes didn't cause cancer gets one. Yeah, he was right about that as he was dying from lung cancer. Apparently in trumps circle, the presidential medal of freedom is reserved for those who kiss his a$$ with the most gusto.

Anyone that would compare the Medal of Honor with the presidential medal of freedom is divorced from reality and a total loser.
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#sohappy is now trending with the thought Buzz and his gene pool will die with him.
 
BuzzH said:
Anyone that would compare the Medal of Honor with the presidential medal of freedom is divorced from reality and a total loser.
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You’re right BuzzH. I’m as divorced from the reality of your universe as one can get. Actually, I was never married to it in the first place.

You’ll keep eating your Holsteins and asking where all the milk went.
 
2lumpy said:
You’re right BuzzH. I’m as divorced from the reality of your universe as one can get. Actually, I was never married to it in the first place.

You’ll keep eating your Holsteins and asking where all the milk went.
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Sorry chump, I eat sport caught halibut, rockfish, lingcod, salmon etc. and elk, deer, pronghorn, moose, bighorns, etc. that I kill every year.

You can keep your milk and store bought crap meat.
 
BuzzH said:
Sorry chump, I eat sport caught halibut, rockfish, lingcod, salmon etc. and elk, deer, pronghorn, moose, bighorns, etc. that I kill every year.

You can keep your milk and store bought crap meat.
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It wasn’t me that said it, but I’ll suggest it might be applicable in your universe.

“He who knows not,
and knows not that he knows nor,
if a fool; shun him.

Based on these rather wise words of wisdom, you should not be responding to my comments. Chumps don’t deserve your time or priceless energy.
 
treedagain said:
I don't find what you and Buzz do as funny.
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Yeah, the truth is nothing to laugh about.

trump is trying to lose and I'm as unhappy about that as you are, actually, more so, because I have wayyyyyy more upside than you'll ever have if he's elected.
 
BuzzH said:
Yeah, the truth is nothing to laugh about.

trump is trying to lose and I'm as unhappy about that as you are, actually, more so, because I have wayyyyyy more upside than you'll ever have if he's elected.
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Yep, you Jerking him off is not funny.
 
The reason I'm still voting for Trump is he's spot on about the Communist climate scam. With all the solar panels and windmills around the world now you'd think the weather would get better. It's almost too late now anyway and we'll continue to rape and destroy the environment and make China rich. Anyone with 2 firing brain cells can do a little research on their own and come to the conclusion it's got nothing to do with the climate. I'm a proud climate denier because I know I'm right.
 
NMFROM81 said:
C’mon “fact” king. You haven’t responded once to my multiple assumptions you never made it past grade school. I think I got you pegged at 6th grade.
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Fact 1. Your an idiot
Fact 2 See above
Fact 3. Your mental growth was stopped just before you were potty trained
 
Brutal bunch of Tree level “facts” sent my way again. Ouch.

I’m feeling even more confident in my assumption above…..6th grade.
 
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I can't be the only one who finds it ridiculous that so many grown men can't refrain from personal attacks.

There's tons of actual policy to discuss without accusing people of being gay, stupid, or uneducated.
 
Grizz,
I respect pretty much everything you have to say and generally agree with your above comment.

Everyone has a boiling point where it can get personal. I reached mine after taking it for so long and responded in kind.

Fully admitting that it went too far, I’m not regretting responding to anyone that dishes it out.
 
Here's just one more little laugh for you Buzz. Have you heard of the dreaded sea level rise? It's been predicted since the 1980's. Florida will be under water blah blah blah.

Would you believe NOAA's own data? You won't see this on Yahoo or any other place you get the climate news.

Sea Level Trends - NOAA Tides & Currents

Sea Levels Online, a map of sea level rise and fall, trends, and anomalies
tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov

Go to this link and scroll down to the map. Click on any world wide arrow that interests you and it will take you to a NOAA tide gauge. It also tells you the rate of rise (or fall) and the predicted rise or fall over the next 100 years.

Next click on Linear Trend in the box. It is a line graph showing the rate of change. If the rise in CO2 was affecting sea level rise wouldn't there be an upwards curvature in that line. There is no upwards curvature in any line.

I could go on for days but I won't. Most people get their climate information from Greta and have no interest in facts.
 
eelgrass said:
Here's just one more little laugh for you Buzz. Have you heard of the dreaded sea level rise? It's been predicted since the 1980's. Florida will be under water blah blah blah.

Would you believe NOAA's own data? You won't see this on Yahoo or any other place you get the climate news.

Sea Level Trends - NOAA Tides & Currents

Sea Levels Online, a map of sea level rise and fall, trends, and anomalies
tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov

Go to this link and scroll down to the map. Click on any world wide arrow that interests you and it will take you to a NOAA tide gauge. It also tells you the rate of rise (or fall) and the predicted rise or fall over the next 100 years.

Next click on Linear Trend in the box. It is a line graph showing the rate of change. If the rise in CO2 was affecting sea level rise wouldn't there be an upwards curvature in that line. There is no upwards curvature in any line.

I could go on for days but I won't. Most people get their climate information from Greta and have no interest in facts.
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How dare you

https://twitter.com/x/status/1608750027534635009
 
BuzzH said:
You need to stop letting others do your " thinking" for you.

trump is going to lose, and that pisses me off to no end. All he had to do is stay on point and I would be raking in money. Oh no, he has to run his soup cooler about irrelevant bs and step on his own junk everyday. Honestly trump would be better off staying in the basement for the next couple months.

www.notus.org

First Digital Rally of ‘Republicans for Harris’ Draws Big Crowd of ‘Kamala-Curious’

Harris was able to get more than 70,000 people to tune in to the rally, but she still has work to do to get more Republicans to support her.
www.notus.org www.notus.org

www.newsweek.com

Republican who endorsed Kamala Harris pushed to resign from GOP

A Pennsylvania Republican's effort to keep Trump from winning the election is not sitting well with the rest of his party.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com
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Hello kettle…
 
grizzly said:
The Medal of Honor goes to true heroes for our country. The Presidential Medal of Freedom goes to people like Sheldon Adelson's wife for giving money to Trump. Yep, that happened.

Trump is also the guy who refused to visit Normandy because he didn't want to see the people who were killed, and said John McCain wasn't a hero because he "likes the people who weren't captured."

Trump has a history of disdain and disrespect for our military. It goes all the way back to his pretend bone spurs (which somehow people forget about when attacking Walz's military record, and even Vance's record as well.)

PS. Anybody who knows McCain's story and what he went through, even after being given the option of release, and can't respect him as a was hero SHOULD NEVER BE COMMANDER IN CHIEF!
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BuzzH said:
trump gave rush limbaugh the Presidential medal of freedom, what more needs to be said about its comparison to the Medal of Honor.

A burned out flunky drug addict that was so ignorant he proclaimed that cigars and cigarettes didn't cause cancer gets one. Yeah, he was right about that as he was dying from lung cancer. Apparently in trumps circle, the presidential medal of freedom is reserved for those who kiss his a$$ with the most gusto.

Anyone that would compare the Medal of Honor with the presidential medal of freedom is divorced from reality and a total loser.
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Imagine a lifelong grifter whose taken bribes from all of America's enemies, and such a POS he refuses to acknowledge his own granddaughter getting a medal.

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NMFROM81 said:
Why would you need another opinion hoss? Bone Spurs himself already told you what to think.
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Bill Clinton received educational deferments from 1963 to 1968 so that he could attend Georgetown, and after graduating, accept a Rhodes scholarship to attend Oxford. However, in 1968, when the law that allowed men to receive deferments even for graduate or law school was changed, Clinton received his draft notice. But, to avoid being drafted in 1968, Bill Clinton used his connections to get permission to join the ROTC at the University of Arkansas law school. This permitted him to avoid the draft and allowed him to return to Oxford to complete his master’s. Moreover, in 1969 when he was returning from England, President Nixon instituted a draft lottery. When Clinton received a number that would have ensured that he would not be selected, he reneged on the commitment to join the ROTC with no penalty.
Army Times



You libs suddenly care about such things after a 2 term President?



Or, now as you play whataboutism comparing Trump and Walz, you are okay with whataboutism?

Hard to keep up with libs rules day to day
 
grizzly said:
Trump has a history of disdain and disrespect for our military. It goes all the way back to his pretend bone spurs (which somehow people forget about when attacking Walz's military record, and even Vance's record as well.)
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You questioning Vance's record?
Do tell.
 
NMFROM81 said:
Grizz,
I respect pretty much everything you have to say and generally agree with your above comment.

Everyone has a boiling point where it can get personal. I reached mine after taking it for so long and responded in kind.

Fully admitting that it went too far, I’m not regretting responding to anyone that dishes it out.
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I get it. I've been there too. We all say things sometimes
 
notdonhunting said:
You questioning Vance's record?
Do tell.
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Not at all. Exactly the opposite, actually.

Some people have, and I'm saying it shouldn't be questioned either. I'm not about to attack either Walz's or Vance's military service.

What I was trying to say, maybe not clearly enough, is that the people who attack Walz conveniently forget about Trump. But the people who attack Vance's service shouldn't either.
 
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grizzly said:
Not at all. Exactly the opposite, actually.

Some people have, and I'm saying it shouldn't be questioned either. I'm not about to attack either Walz's or Vance's military service.

What I was trying to say, maybe not clearly enough, is that the people who attack Walz conveniently forget about Trump. But the people who attack Vance's service shouldn't either.
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Whataboutism.

So Waltz gets a pass because Trump?

The people attacking Waltz, were in his unit.

If what they say isn't true, why is Harris campaign quietly adjusting their campaign material on Waltz service?

There isn't grey area.

He lied about "carrying weapons of war in war". He did not. That has nothing to do with Trump.

He lied about his rank, as is easily proven by his retirement paperwork. That has nothing to do with Trump.


"But Trump", is a smokescreen.

And as I pointed out, libs had zero issue electing Clinton, twice. So "but Trump" is a smokescreen
 
hossblur said:
Whataboutism.

So Waltz gets a pass because Trump?

The people attacking Waltz, were in his unit.

If what they say isn't true, why is Harris campaign quietly adjusting their campaign material on Waltz service?

There isn't grey area.

He lied about "carrying weapons of war in war". He did not. That has nothing to do with Trump.

He lied about his rank, as is easily proven by his retirement paperwork. That has nothing to do with Trump.


"But Trump", is a smokescreen.

And as I pointed out, libs had zero issue electing Clinton, twice. So "but Trump" is a smokescreen
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You say that word more than anybody on MM and you literally don't know what it means. You think it's a response to every comparison or analogy, but don't understand the definition.

PS. Your comparison would make sense if it were Dems complaining about Trump, but you're trying to drum up 30 year old politics to apply it to the current candidates, and it's the GOP using the attack, not the Dems (that's the second place your argument fails), and they're doing it while ignoring their own flaws with the current candidate. That's not whataboutism, it's hypocrisy. Wise up.
 
hossblur said:
Bill Clinton received educational deferments from 1963 to 1968 so that he could attend Georgetown, and after graduating, accept a Rhodes scholarship to attend Oxford. However, in 1968, when the law that allowed men to receive deferments even for graduate or law school was changed, Clinton received his draft notice. But, to avoid being drafted in 1968, Bill Clinton used his connections to get permission to join the ROTC at the University of Arkansas law school. This permitted him to avoid the draft and allowed him to return to Oxford to complete his master’s. Moreover, in 1969 when he was returning from England, President Nixon instituted a draft lottery. When Clinton received a number that would have ensured that he would not be selected, he reneged on the commitment to join the ROTC with no penalty.
Army Times



You libs suddenly care about such things after a 2 term President?



Or, now as you play whataboutism comparing Trump and Walz, you are okay with whataboutism?

Hard to keep up with libs rules day to day
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Clinton?? Really dude. He first got elected when I was in 4th grade….Its not like I voted for him.

As a matter of fact, I took Bush’s roll in a mock debate in my class, because my parents supported Bush. One of the knocks on Clinton was has dodge of military service. Times have changed, haven't they? Seems like bone spurs are pretty cool in the party these days….

Libs rules day to day? Probably more accurate here to claim it’s hard to keep up with libs rules changes since the 90’s.

Wasn’t Clinton the last president to balance the budget? Can’t you admit that not all libs are pure evil.
 
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grizzly said:
You say that word more than anybody on MM and you literally don't know what it means. You think it's a response to every comparison or analogy, but don't understand the definition.

PS. Your comparison would make sense if it were Dems complaining about Trump, but you're trying to drum up 30 year old politics to apply it to the current candidates, and it's the GOP using the attack, not the Dems (that's the second place your argument fails), and they're doing it while ignoring their own flaws with the current candidate. That's not whataboutism, it's hypocrisy. Wise up.
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You should get off MSNBC.

This issue was raised when he ran for Congress, and governor. Not by the RNC, but by the guys he bailed on.

So now we have timelines for attacks?

I guess that just started?

Trumps "rape" accusations are how many decades old? How about Stormy?

As always, it's funny how the rules work. If it's bad for D, it's old news.

Oh I know.

Whataboutism only applies to R. If it's D, it's an "analogy".

The reality is the reality.

He lied about carrying guns in war, thinking it would give him moral superiority over those who didn't in gun debates.


He lied about his ran over and over, for the same reason.

I've heard from lives they hate liars, until they orchestrate a coup to get one, then suddenly that doesn't matter.
 
NMFROM81 said:
Clinton?? Really dude. He first got elected when I was in 4th grade….Its not like I voted for him.

As a matter of fact, I took Bush’s roll in a mock debate in my class, because my parents supported Bush. One of the knocks on Clinton was has dodge of military service. Times have changed, haven't they? Seems like bone spurs are pretty cool in the party these days….

Libs rules day to day? Probably more accurate here to claim it’s hard to keep up with libs rules changes since the 90’s.

Wasn’t Clinton the last president to balance the budget? Can’t you admit that not all libs are pure evil.
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Oh, that's right. History started in 2016.
 
NMFROM81 said:
Clinton?? Really dude. He first got elected when I was in 4th grade….Its not like I voted for him.

As a matter of fact, I took Bush’s roll in a mock debate in my class, because my parents supported Bush. One of the knocks on Clinton was has dodge of military service. Times have changed, haven't they? Seems like bone spurs are pretty cool in the party these days….

Libs rules day to day? Probably more accurate here to claim it’s hard to keep up with libs rules changes since the 90’s.

Wasn’t Clinton the last president to balance the budget? Can’t you admit that not all libs are pure evil.
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“pure evil” Hummmmm. Let me think about that for a while.

Okay, nope I can’t. All are evil, ya almost lost me on the “pure” trick.
 
hossblur said:
Oh, that's right. History started in 2016.
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You’re completely ignoring the point on purpose.

If draft dodging was so bad when Clinton did it, how’d it get overlooked with Trump? You want to criticize verbage with Waltz’s statement and give a pass to what “bone spurs” did?….while at the same time pointing to Clinton?? Ha. If that’s not hypocrisy I don’t know what is.

Waltz and Vance BOTH served and should be respected for that. Trump’s well documented lack of respect for the military really can’t be defended….at least by anyone that wants to be consistent in supporting the military.

Why would Republicans even what to question military service with bone spurs as the candidate? Seems kinda dumb.
 
NMFROM81 said:
You’re completely ignoring the point on purpose.

If draft dodging was so bad when Clinton did it, how’d it get overlooked with Trump? You want to criticize verbage with Waltz’s statement and give a pass to what “bone spurs” did?….while at the same time pointing to Clinton?? Ha. If that’s not hypocrisy I don’t know what is.

Waltz and Vance BOTH served and should be respected for that. Trump’s well documented lack of respect for the military really can’t be defended….at least by anyone that wants to be consistent in supporting the military.

Why would Republicans even what to question military service with bone spurs as the candidate? Seems kinda dumb.
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Be honest.

Before I posted that did you know Clinton dodged? But you knew "bonespurs",right?

Same war, roughly same aged dudes.

Be honest.

Waltz lied, on tape, numerous times. Why?


The questioning started when he ran for Congress, then gov. It's not new.

No one questions his service. They question his lies.
 
hossblur said:
Be honest.

Before I posted that did you know Clinton dodged? But you knew "bonespurs",right?

Same war, roughly same aged dudes.

Be honest.

Waltz lied, on tape, numerous times. Why?


The questioning started when he ran for Congress, then gov. It's not new.

No one questions his service. They question his lies.
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Yes, being honest, I knew about Clinton’s dodge before I knew about Trumps make believe bone spurs. As stated, I played the role of Bush in a mock debate against Clinton. Better believe my parents coached me up to hit the draft dodging really hard.

So you’re saying Waltz lied? No way?…. I bet you think Vance only speaks in truth, don’t you??
Wondering, do you think Trump has ever lied?? Pretty funny beating up a political candidate for lying….especially when you’re voting for Trump. Talk about an extra strong dose of hypocrisy!!

Absolutely stupid for Republicans to go after Waltz exaggerated military service with Bone Spurs as the candidate….it brings up a subject they should want to avoid like the plague.
 
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NMFROM81 said:
Yes, being honest, I knew about Clinton’s dodge before I knew about Trumps make believe bone spurs. As stated, I played the role of Bush in a mock debate against Clinton. Better believe my parents coached me up to hit the draft dodging really hard.

So you’re saying Waltz lied? No way?…. I bet you think Vance only speaks in truth, don’t you??
Wondering, do you think Trump has ever lied?? Pretty funny beating up a political candidate for lying….especially when you’re voting for Trump. Talk about an extra strong dose of hypocrisy!!

Absolutely stupid for Republicans to go after Waltz exaggerated military service with Bone Spurs as the candidate….it brings up a subject they should want to avoid like the plague.
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Nope, wrong again……… lay the worts out there, in all their ugliness………. peal back the onion layers, on all the players. Just make sure you check your confirmation bias at the door.
 
NMFROM81 said:
Yes, being honest, I knew about Clinton’s dodge before I knew about Trumps make believe bone spurs. As stated, I played the role of Bush in a mock debate against Clinton. Better believe my parents coached me up to hit the draft dodging really hard.

So you’re saying Waltz lied? No way?…. I bet you think Vance only speaks in truth, don’t you??
Wondering, do you think Trump has ever lied?? Pretty funny beating up a political candidate for lying….especially when you’re voting for Trump. Talk about an extra strong dose of hypocrisy!!

Absolutely stupid for Republicans to go after Waltz exaggerated military service with Bone Spurs as the candidate….it brings up a subject they should want to avoid like the plague.
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Are you capable of discussing Waltz,without saying Trump?

"Exaggerated".

You mean the service he lied about.?

He either lied, or he didn't.

But I agree, talking about him sitting in his ass while Minneapolis burned is a better subject. So is his shut downs in Minnesota into Nov of 20', complete with a rat your neighbor out tip line. Those failures are much more meaningful. I'm sure he'll address any of it, never.

It's comical listening to libs who spent weeks on couches and cat ladies decide what is stupid to talk about.

Name a single Harris policy you support.
 
Check my bias before I login to Monster Mulies?? That’s probably the dumbest thing I’ve heard all year.
2lumpy said:
Nope, wrong again……… lay the worts out there, in all their ugliness………. peal back the onion layers, on all the players. Just make sure you check your confirmation bias at the door.
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hossblur said:
Are you capable of discussing Waltz,without saying Trump?

"Exaggerated".

You mean the service he lied about.?

He either lied, or he didn't.

But I agree, talking about him sitting in his ass while Minneapolis burned is a better subject. So is his shut downs in Minnesota into Nov of 20', complete with a rat your neighbor out tip line. Those failures are much more meaningful. I'm sure he'll address any of it, never.

It's comical listening to libs who spent weeks on couches and cat ladies decide what is stupid to talk about.

Name a single Harris policy you support.
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Hoss, your acting like a politician lying is novel….I’ve got news for you, it’s not. Sure looks like Waltz lied about carrying a gun during combat, I never said otherwise.

Your man Bone Spurs is literally one of the most accomplished liars in the world…..stop acting like lying is a disqualifying act for a politician.

What’s a policy of Harris I support? You must think I’m a democrat? I’m not. BUT I won’t vote for the guy who doesn’t acknowledge election results…..that’s been my stance against Bone Spurs since 2016.
 
2lumpy said:
Probably is. Thanks. Proceed unchecked, as you wish.
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You didn’t catch the sarcasm.

You must think Monster Mulies is one of those bias-free forums? Except, of course, from the few libs that participate….they are loaded with bias.

There’s sarcasm in the above too, see if you can pick it up.
 
NMFROM81 said:
Yes, being honest, I knew about Clinton’s dodge before I knew about Trumps make believe bone spurs. As stated, I played the role of Bush in a mock debate against Clinton. Better believe my parents coached me up to hit the draft dodging really hard.

So you’re saying Waltz lied? No way?…. I bet you think Vance only speaks in truth, don’t you??
Wondering, do you think Trump has ever lied?? Pretty funny beating up a political candidate for lying….especially when you’re voting for Trump. Talk about an extra strong dose of hypocrisy!!

Absolutely stupid for Republicans to go after Waltz exaggerated military service with Bone Spurs as the candidate….it brings up a subject they should want to avoid like the plague.
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Do you know Trump did not/or does not have bone spurs?
My brother has bone spurs and they hurt him something fierce. He found out he had them on his mission and the doctors told him that the bone spurs was his git out of the draft card.

And please would everyone stop with the putting Waltz and Vance side by side with there military service.
One went to Iraq and one did not. One was honest about his military record (Vance) "I was in a non-combate position, military journalism" and one lied (Waltz) "like the weapon I carried in war".
I got respect for Waltz being in the National Guard for 24 years but he lied about his military record. He lied about his active duty more than once and he lied about his final rank, he was demoted when he retired because he did not finish his commitment. And the problem is he will not come out and take hard questions on them facts.
 
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NMFROM81 said:
Hoss, your acting like a politician lying is novel….I’ve got news for you, it’s not. Sure looks like Waltz lied about carrying a gun during combat, I never said otherwise.

Your man Bone Spurs is literally one of the most accomplished liars in the world…..stop acting like lying is a disqualifying act for a politician.

What’s a policy of Harris I support? You must think I’m a democrat? I’m not. BUT I won’t vote for the guy who doesn’t acknowledge election results…..that’s been my stance against Bone Spurs since 2016.
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So no.

I paragraph was all you could make it.

We could run the list of 160 democrats that denied election results, but you'd just say "Trump"


Which election did Kamala win to be the nominee?

And it's funny how you cherry picked the least egregious lie. The gun in war wasnt repeated over, and over, and over, through multiple elections like his rank.

This is a waltz thread, why can't you stay on subject?
 
hossblur said:
So no.

I paragraph was all you could make it.

We could run the list of 160 democrats that denied election results, but you'd just say "Trump"


Which election did Kamala win to be the nominee?

And it's funny how you cherry picked the least egregious lie. The gun in war wasnt repeated over, and over, and over, through multiple elections like his rank.

This is a waltz thread, why can't you stay on subject?
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Bone Spurs took it WAY past what had ever been done before. Asking for an extra 11,780 Georgia votes to steal the state. Organizing fake electors. It’s not even comparable, stop with that crap.

Stay on subject with a MM thread? That’s another funny one Hoss. Go find a moderator to kick me off if you think I broke any hard rules.

By the way, title of the tread is “Trump really blowing it”….Looks like I am on subject.
 
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NMFROM81 said:
Bone Spurs took it WAY past what had ever been done before. Asking for an extra 11,780 Georgia votes to steal the state. Organizing fake electors. It’s not even comparable, stop with that crap.

Stay on subject with a MM thread? That’s another funny one Hoss. Go find a moderator to kick me off if you think I broke any hard rules.
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I'm not a lib, I'm not for censorship.

Problem you have, is you believe history started in 2016.

Spend some time on the Kennedy election. Specifically with fake electors, voter fraud, Chicago, mafia.


Then get back to us.

You just watched Pelosi and Obama stage a coup on the current president. They stole 14million primary votes.
 
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NMFROM81 said:
You didn’t catch the sarcasm.

You must think Monster Mulies is one of those bias-free forums? Except, of course, from the few libs that participate….they are loaded with bias.

There’s sarcasm in the above too, see if you can pick it up.
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Naw, not interested in your sarcasm, above or below.

No sarcasm in the following……… most of the respected folks, that gather at this campfire, now and in the past, have long ago admitted they have bias and are in one way or another are a bigot. A rare few refuse to admit it.

For every point made about each other or any politician, can be and will usually be responded to by a “ya but, yada, yada, yada, blah, blah, blah…..”. Pointless re-ringing of a long since worn threadbare argument.

Boils down to something like this, there are two viable choices you and I can make, when we vote this year. You can vote for either the Republican’ts candidate or the Demoist’s candidate. There is not other viable choice because the reality is no third party candidate or write in can win. Wishing or believing otherwise won’t change that reality. If you don’t vote, you are worthless to the county. So like it or not if your not a Demoist or a Republican’t……. you count for nothing, when comes to elections.

If you refuse to vote for either the R candidate or the D candidate, at least vote for the Party that fundamentally supports your ideology.

So you won’t vote for Donald Trump……… I get it…………. I will. How about you tell us who you’re voting for, if, “ You must think I’m a democrat? I’m not.” There’s not a viable third option.
 
notdonhunting said:
Do you know Trump did not/or does not have bone spurs?
My brother has bone spurs and they hurt him something fierce. He found out he had them on his mission and the doctors told him that the bone spurs was his git out of the draft card.
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I can’t tell if you’re asking a serious question or if it’s a joke.

Of course I know Trump didn’t have bone spurs. That’s the point. He dodged service because a doctor (who was a family friend) gave a false diagnosis of bone spurs to get Trump off the hook and out of Vietnam.

This is pretty common knowledge you can look up if you don’t believe me.

If I read that wrong and you were really asking if I’ve personally looked at Trumps feet to “see for myself”, the answer is no.
 
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So you won’t vote for Donald Trump……… I get it…………. I will. How about you tell us who you’re voting for, if, “ You must think I’m a democrat? I’m not.” There’s not a viable third option.
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Just because I’m registered as a Republican, doesn’t mean I have to vote that way. You’ve probably caught on that there’s a few people in the party that don’t like him.

I don’t have to vote for a viable candidate. I can write in a candidate or go 3rd party again like I did in ‘16 and ‘20. It’s the best way I can say I’m not happy with the Republican candidate. So unhappy actually, that I wouldn’t pick that candidate over Clinton, Biden or Harris.

I live in NM. I am totally OK sending in a protest vote.
 
NMFROM81 said:
Just because I’m registered as a Republican, doesn’t mean I have to vote that way. You’ve probably caught on that there’s a few people in the party that don’t like him.

I don’t have to vote for a viable candidate. I can write in a candidate or go 3rd party again like I did in ‘16 and ‘20. It’s the best way I can say I’m not happy with the Republican candidate. So unhappy actually, that I wouldn’t pick that candidate over Clinton, Biden or Harris.

I live in NM. I am totally OK sending in a protest vote.
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Figured. Thanks for your yada, yada, yada, blah, blah,blah. Your decision is harming the ideology your register with, by voting against it and your yada, yada, yada, blah, blah, blah is helping the Demoist’s stay in office. Sad.
 
NMFROM81 said:
Just because I’m registered as a Republican, doesn’t mean I have to vote that way. You’ve probably caught on that there’s a few people in the party that don’t like him.

I don’t have to vote for a viable candidate. I can write in a candidate or go 3rd party again like I did in ‘16 and ‘20. It’s the best way I can say I’m not happy with the Republican candidate. So unhappy actually, that I wouldn’t pick that candidate over Clinton, Biden or Harris.

I live in NM. I am totally OK sending in a protest vote.
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You aren't sending anything. You are simply telling the R that money and time are better spent in states where they can succeed.

There is simply nothing you can say, be it bone spurs, lying, sexual practices, etc that you can put on Trump as a reason to stand to the side and let Harris win.

She LITERALLY is what Trump was talking about when he said if you're rich or famous you can grab women by the p****. That is exactly how she came to prominence.

She just stole 14 million votes. And she's in the process of doing 180's on every position she claimed to have.
 
Hoss, just a couple moths ago you said (on multiple occasions) that you wouldn’t vote Biden or Trump because they were both too old to do the job. Sure seemed like advanced age was a REALLY big factor in your decision. I agreed with you.

So who’s also pulling a 180?…. Bone Spurs hasn’t gotten any younger, and he’s now running against…..a younger opponent. I’d think you’d at least stay consistent and NOT vote for either? Looks like I’m the one being consistent here.

When the R’s nominate someone other than a veteran disrespecting, lying, election denier, they will get more moderates to vote for them again. They knew they would lose part of the party if they nominated Trump….nobody should be surprised.
 
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Hoss, just a couple moths ago you said (on multiple occasions) that you wouldn’t vote Biden or Trump because they were both too old to do the job. Sure seemed like advanced age was a REALLY big factor in your decision. I agreed with you.

So who’s also pulling a 180?…. Bone Spurs hasn’t gotten any younger. I’m the one being consistent here.

When the R’s nominate someone other than a veteran disrespecting, lying, election denier, they will get more moderates to vote for them again. They knew they would lose part of the party if they nominated Trump….nobody should be surprised.
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Trump got shot. I rally to presidents when they get shot, either side. Notice my governor did as well.

We saw how the moderates took care of things, Bush, Romney,McCain.


We got the patriot act, and losing nicely out of that.

I was also very safe sitting in Utah "protesting", there was zero chance a D wins.

You live in NM, you don't have that luxury
 
NMFROM81 said:
Hoss, just a couple moths ago you said (on multiple occasions) that you wouldn’t vote Biden or Trump because they were both too old to do the job. Sure seemed like advanced age was a REALLY big factor in your decision. I agreed with you.

So who’s also pulling a 180?…. Bone Spurs hasn’t gotten any younger, and he’s now running against…..a younger opponent. I’d think you’d at least stay consistent and NOT vote for either? Looks like I’m the one being consistent here.

When the R’s nominate someone other than a veteran disrespecting, lying, election denier, they will get more moderates to vote for them again. They knew they would lose part of the party if they nominated Trump….nobody should be surprised.
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Read a piece in the Atlantic about Gov Cox supporting Trump.

About what you expect, except he stated that he realized whether your MAGA or not, you have zero chance influencing the R if you are outside.

There is zero moderation in today's D party. They ran out Sinema and Manchin.

The far left and socialists set the agenda there.

Trump spent too much, Biden spent more.

Trump slowed the border, Biden opened it.

Trump did t entangle us in foreign crap, Biden is expanding it.

Inflation, energy and interest rates low under Trump, high under Biden.

Guys like NM, want to pretend.

Trump doesn't have a filter. Biden, Harris, Obama, etc, do. Their records show they are narcissists, and ego maniacs same as Trump. They had unmoral appetites, same as Trump.

He just isn't a product of PR training.


I guarantee if NM or Grizzly wife or kid, God forbid, is laying in a hospital bed, dying, they'd not give 2 shits if the surgeon banged porn stars, disrespected people, or lied. They'd want the issue fixed.


Nice guys don't become President. There never has been one, the closest one in, modern times, Jimmy Carter, was also the worst president in modern times.


Maybe it's my construction background, but the well spoken, PR correct, foremen and supers don't get things built. It's always the loud, ownery, 3 times divorced, recovering addict foreman who does. Running the US isn't a place for Fred Rogers. It's not a Norman Rockwell painting.

You can have fake nice or you can get results. You never get both.

Mitt Romney was made into a sexist, and racist by the left.
 
hossblur said:
There is zero moderation in today's D party. They ran out Sinema and Manchin.
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Those two even voted with the Biden/Harris agenda 95%. Not commie enough to please their leftist masters. There are few if any moderates left in the Party, they are mostly all radical leftist ideologues. I'm sure one eye will be along shortly to tell us how moderate Shapiro is.
 
Rather have an unfiltered a$$ running this country than lying socialist. You vote for a president to run the country and make America Great. How much a president spends (adds to our debt) is not the issue, it is what they spent it on. Anyone who does not see how much worse our country is now than it was 5 years ago is blind. And most likely can never be convinced how bad things have gotten. I do not like everything Trump stands for, but the few items I do not agree with I will voice my opinion. I agree with NOTHING Harris stands for. If she wins it will be disappointing that she will be remembered as the first woman president. That title should be reserved for a strong women who could run this country and make it great.
 
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Trump got shot. I rally to presidents when they get shot, either side. Notice my governor did as well.

We saw how the moderates took care of things, Bush, Romney,McCain.


We got the patriot act, and losing nicely out of that.

I was also very safe sitting in Utah "protesting", there was zero chance a D wins.

You live in NM, you don't have that luxury
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Oh, I see. Trump getting shot made him younger. That makes sense.

I don't believe for one second that you'd migrate towards Biden if he had got shot..... and you shouldn't because it doesn't really change anything. You suggesting you'd move to "either side" seems pretty insincere, to me at least. That attempt only proved (didn't need proving) that there's some real crazy people out there harboring real hate.

NM has been solid blue for a long while. I don't think that's changing this year, I think I'll vote the way I want.
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I guarantee if NM or Grizzly wife or kid, God forbid, is laying in a hospital bed, dying, they'd not give 2 shits if the surgeon banged porn stars, disrespected people, or lied. They'd want the issue fixed.
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Your wrong about your surgeon analogy. If I were in that situation I'd want a qualified surgeon WITH morals. When you bang porn stars, especially when your wife's pregnant, you really don't have much moral ground to stand on. I'd argue that surgeons without morals are more likely to see patients not as people, but just another paycheck. I'm not a surgeon, but I'm in a very similar field, and I see what I interpret as actions like that regularly. I want the qualified surgeon who cares. Trump doesn't care about other people, he cares only about himself.

But hey, you got your reasons and I've got mine. Nothing you've said has changed my opinion and I'm sure you can say the same. This has gone on long enough for me.
 
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How much a president spends (adds to our debt) is not the issue, it is what they spent it on.
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Yep. You should borrow money to fix a leaky roof, not say you're borrowing money to fix a leaky roof and then spend that money on gold plated faucets or give that money to your friends because they voted for you.
 
NMFROM81 said:
Oh, I see. Trump getting shot made him younger. That makes sense.

I don't believe for one second that you'd migrate towards Biden if he had got shot..... and you shouldn't because it doesn't really change anything. You suggesting you'd move to "either side" seems pretty insincere, to me at least. That attempt only proved (didn't need proving) that there's some real crazy people out there harboring real hate.

NM has been solid blue for a long while. I don't think that's changing this year, I think I'll vote the way I want.

Your wrong about your surgeon analogy. If I were in that situation I'd want a qualified surgeon WITH morals. When you bang porn stars, especially when your wife's pregnant, you really don't have much moral ground to stand on. I'd argue that surgeons without morals are more likely to see patients not as people, but just another paycheck. I'm not a surgeon, but I'm in a very similar field, and I see what I interpret as actions like that regularly. I want the qualified surgeon who cares. Trump doesn't care about other people, he cares only about himself.

But hey, you got your reasons and I've got mine. Nothing you've said has changed my opinion and I'm sure you can say the same. This has gone on long enough for me.
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I'm sure. I'm sure as your family member is bleeding out you'd be in the waiting room running background checks and personal history inquiry.

Who does Harris care about? Oh, that's right, she's the non narcissist. She has no ego. She's just here for the joy.


She literally f*****Willie Brown, until she didn't need him.

Then she figuratively f****** Biden who rescued her off the ash heap of history.


She's won not a single primary, yet, is here to save democracy.

Yeah. Might be hard for you"moderates"(democrats) to believe, but some of us still favor country over party. Trying to kill the President, should equal support.


I know I won't change your mind. That's the funny part. You made up your mind 8 years ago and no facts, data, etc will change it. I changed mine due to facts on the ground.

Yet somehow, you consider yourself the thought out, reasonable position. You're just a rigid ideologue, but without the honesty to wear that like the red hat folks do.
 
Almost the entire left leaning media complex were trying to dump Kamala a short time ago... but now she's magically the queen of Joy and the best thing to come along since sliced bread & the wheel. It's all manufactured.

Most republicans I know just want to be left alone. Democrats have always been central planners that want to control every aspect of your life. Power is their sole desire and the end justifies the means. It's people that want to be left alone vs. the central planners.

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wetmule said:
Almost the entire left leaning media complex were trying to dump Kamala a short time ago... but now she's magically the queen of Joy and the best thing to come along since sliced bread & the wheel. It's all manufactured.

Most republicans I know just want to be left alone. Democrats have always been central planners that want to control every aspect of your life. Power is their sole desire and the end justifies the means. It's people that want to be left alone vs. the central planners.

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NMFROM81 said:
Just because I’m registered as a Republican, doesn’t mean I have to vote that way. You’ve probably caught on that there’s a few people in the party that don’t like him.

I don’t have to vote for a viable candidate. I can write in a candidate or go 3rd party again like I did in ‘16 and ‘20. It’s the best way I can say I’m not happy with the Republican candidate. So unhappy actually, that I wouldn’t pick that candidate over Clinton, Biden or Harris.

I live in NM. I am totally OK sending in a protest vote.
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