Hit Job Gone Wrong

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Yesterday was a political hit job gone wrong, and now they are scrambling to cover their tracks…

The silence is deafening, does nobody else think it’s eerily odd that no one from the secret service has briefed the American people…
What about the DHS?
What about the FBI, lol like that would happen with this FBI administration…
This doesn’t pass the sniff test and they’re scrambling…
 
One claim is…. the campaign has been asking DHS for more Secret Service people and Mayorkas has denied their requests.

This is the stuff conspiracy theories are made of so it’s unlikely we’ll ever know the whole truth and even if we did, half the country wouldn’t believe it. All I trust are my only lying eyes.

I saw and heard the guys yelling and pointing at the shooting before he shot Trump. That’s seems real and true. I heard how quickly the Secret Service killed the shooter, almost immediately after Trump went down. That seems real and true.

From that point forward, it’s anyone’s guess what happened before, after and why, because the propaganda machinery has already taken over what we’ll see and hear from this time forward.

That’s my opinion, for what it’s worth.
 
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The secret service agents near Trump did their job by jumping in and using their bodies as a shield to protect Trump. The on site secrete service agent that was in charge of the security team failed his job of protecting Trump. When my dept. started up a SWAT team i was the primary sniper.
Any one with a lick of common sense and military or police experience will tell you that a sniper will try to get to the high ground for his shot as it provides the best view of the target.
For that secrete service agent in charge to ignore that building is outright malfeasance on his part and he should be fired from the agency after being questioned why he failed to secure that building or placing a officer on the roof.
Makes me wonder was he really that stupid or just did not care of Trump got killed.
RELH
 
The secret service agents near Trump did their job by jumping in and using their bodies as a shield to protect Trump. The on site secrete service agent that was in charge of the security team failed his job of protecting Trump. When my dept. started up a SWAT team i was the primary sniper.
Any one with a lick of common sense and military or police experience will tell you that a sniper will try to get to the high ground for his shot as it provides the best view of the target.
For that secrete service agent in charge to ignore that building is outright malfeasance on his part and he should be fired from the agency after being questioned why he failed to secure that building or placing a officer on the roof.
Makes me wonder was he really that stupid or just did not care of Trump got killed.
RELH
How many seconds were there between Trump dropping and the Secret Service killing the shooter. Sure appeared to me the Secret Service had their sights on the shooter prior to him squeezing the trigger.

Did some regulation prevent him from killing the shooter before the first shot was fired?

As a government hired sniper…..what are your thoughts on that RELH?
 
The secret service agents near Trump did their job by jumping in and using their bodies as a shield to protect Trump. The on site secrete service agent that was in charge of the security team failed his job of protecting Trump. When my dept. started up a SWAT team i was the primary sniper.
Any one with a lick of common sense and military or police experience will tell you that a sniper will try to get to the high ground for his shot as it provides the best view of the target.
For that secrete service agent in charge to ignore that building is outright malfeasance on his part and he should be fired from the agency after being questioned why he failed to secure that building or placing a officer on the roof.
Makes me wonder was he really that stupid or just did not care of Trump got killed.
RELH
I agree with you RELH, the boots on the stage did a great job protecting Trump in the moment…

What I can’t get past is this, they supposedly didn’t know the shooter was on that roof… Yet, shots ring out and all of sudden the shooters dead in seconds…

Here’s my thoughts and I’m not usually a conspiracy theorist…
They knew what was going down, the shooter was supposed to hit his mark in the first couple of rounds…. Then he was going to be the sacrificial lamb…

He failed and they had to take him down without the execution of the plan being successful…
 
Rep. Greene had this to say about Biden and his previous comments concerning Trump.
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@RepMTG

Joe Biden told donors it's "time to put Trump in a bull's eye," and that is EXACTLY what happened.House Democrats, led by Bennie Thompson, introduced a bill to strip USSS protection from President Trump.The weaponized DOJ has done everything they can to make sure President Trump spends the rest of his life in PRISON, while sending non-violent J6ers to jail for years. They want President Trump and his supporters dead.We won’t forget.
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I wonder if the Democrat party and the Dept. of Justice will hold Biden to the same standards as they did Trump concerning Jan.6.
Biden telling his donors that and it being published by the liberal press is a red flag to every nut job to take a shot at Trump.
RELH
 
I think what happen there was no direct radio commo between the local cops and the secrete service agents which would cause a delay in alerting the secrete service by a local cop who may have became aware of a possible shooter on that roof due to citizens yelling about a man on the roof with a rifle.
As for the secrete service sniper, he may not have been aware of the shooter until his attention was directed to the building by the sound of gunfire and he took action to eliminate the shooter with a head shot.
You can bet your last dollar that the Biden Admin. did not assign the best experienced agents to trump's security detail. Those agents are protecting Biden and his democrat cohorts.
Trump would have been given the least experienced rookies with very little training or field experience.
The agent in charge failed to do a proper job of securing the area and in police jardon this was a "cluster F##K" of the highest order.
RELH
 
I think what happen there was no direct radio commo between the local cops and the secrete service agents which would cause a delay in alerting the secrete service by a local cop who may have became aware of a possible shooter on that roof due to citizens yelling about a man on the roof with a rifle.
As for the secrete service sniper, he may not have been aware of the shooter until his attention was directed to the building by the sound of gunfire and he took action to eliminate the shooter with a head shot.
You can bet your last dollar that the Biden Admin. did not assign the best experienced agents to trump's security detail. Those agents are protecting Biden and his democrat cohorts.
Trump would have been given the least experienced rookies with very little training or field experience.
The agent in charge failed to do a proper job of securing the area and in police jardon this was a "cluster F##K" of the highest order.
RELH
I understand RH, make sense. It seems, the SS snipers were already on him before he shot. Media are interviewing eye witness claims they say SS where aiming in the shooter’s direction prior to any shots, by anyone. (A MSNBC interview, no less.). Mayorkas is a “wait” to react Director, or so it seems.

Some reason they were on him and and the sniper didn’t kill him before he shot at Trump. I’m of the opinion Mayorkas and the DHS are going to hang this on the sniper?
 
SS lady that can't holster her sidearm
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When I was watching it unfold and they got Trump down to the rig I noticed one of the gals trying to put her sunglasses on and the other one trying to holster her weapon. Just my opinion but that didn't look too good, I think RELH is right blue light special employees.
 
Holster was not a good showing? She seemed pretty nervous.

The sunglasses? Might be good to not have sun in your eyes when trying to view the threat(s)
 
I’m not focused on the women running around the perimeter of the scrum covering Trump. Those guys did a pretty good job as far as I can see. As usual, Trump took charged and backed them off, in spite of their best efforts. Trump will always take charge, when there are hard things to get done. Like him or not, his the political version of General George Patton. That’s the kind of Commander and Chief I want for President right now. A knife fighter with an attitude.

Also, regarding this women and their sunglasses………. (Figuratively speak.) let’s talk about the guy that shot and killed the assassin. I have been not able to varify this but the SS say he was not one of theirs, but rather, a local swat type member. So……… as to his shooting skill, his skill cannot be questioned, but the issue with the time it took has me in a twist. We know the sniper in Afghanistan had the suiside bomber in his sights but was told by higher authority to hold his fire. What was this swat sniper told, before or during this attack instructed to do. Waiting for some politician to make a call at the time of an emergency is common practice with a couple of the last administrations…. remember Benghazi.

46 seconds is a huge amount of time to make a chip shot. Why did he wait, what’s his name, why has the press not interviewed him. Why hasn’t the pressed asked about him. Why hasn’t the press asked why Cross wasn’t dead 5 seconds after the swat team saw him on the roof? Hell, they’ve interviewed every body in the world, where is the swat team Captain.

Too hell with a couple women and their nervous behavior…….
 
Bongino, who is the only commentator with actual experience, said his sources say the vantage point with the roofline and where the kid was laying on meant he didn't have the shot until the kid rose up a bit.
 
Bongino, who is the only commentator with actual experience, said his sources say the vantage point with the roofline and where the kid was laying on meant he didn't have the shot until the kid rose up a bit.
The shooter was definitely making an effort to stay low. He had to lay his gun across the ridge cap and then expose his head to take aim.
I wonder if the gun had a bipod?

I like Bongino. I believe what he says.
 
Sloped roof not a problem for shooter.....
DEI hire says: on Fox
"That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point. And so, you know, there's a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn't want to put somebody up on a sloped roof. And so, you know, the decision was made to secure the building, from inside," she said. "

She said the Secret Service was aware of the security vulnerabilities presented by the building Crooks took a sniper's position on to aim at Trump. However, a decision was made not to place any personnel on the roof.

What an ignorant POS.
 
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Why did he wait, what’s his name, why has the press not interviewed him. Why hasn’t the pressed asked about him. Why hasn’t the press asked why Cross wasn’t dead 5 seconds after the swat team saw him on the roof? Hell, they’ve interviewed every body in the world, where is the swat team Captain.

I can’t answer all these questions, but look at any officer involved shooting. Have you ever seen the LEO that pulled the trigger get put before the press to answer questions…ever, let alone within 72 hours of the incident?

There are a whole lot of questions that should demand answers in all this. Why the sniper that killed the guy hasn’t been in the press is certainly not one of them. At least not a reasonable one.

I do look forward to those with power getting explanations to the rest of us for it, however. This was an absolute and utter failure in planning for security.
 
I can’t answer all these questions, but look at any officer involved shooting. Have you ever seen the LEO that pulled the trigger get put before the press to answer questions…ever, let alone within 72 hours of the incident?

There are a whole lot of questions that should demand answers in all this. Why the sniper that killed the guy hasn’t been in the press is certainly not one of them. At least not a reasonable one.

I do look forward to those with power getting explanations to the rest of us for it, however. This was an absolute and utter failure in planning for security.
No, I haven’t. However, it’s not every day a ex U.S. President/significant Presidential Candidate, gets shot either…… so the circumstances are quite different, don’t you agree. Albeit, I saw the guy that killed bin Laden interviewed numerous times, but yes it wasn’t immediately after he shot him.

Here’s my point, we all recognize the conflicts between the governing bodies in our country. There is dangerously bad blood between the citizens and much is the hot blood is due to the lack of openness that persists. When information isn’t freely shared, and shared quickly, people begin into draw conclusions on their own. Human nature, I suppose, but regardless if it’s human nature or not, it’s a feeding ground for conspiracy theories that become true in some peoples minds. We all know that is a fact.

Knowing that will happen….. don’t you think a wise thing to do would be to get some of these obvious questions addressed as quickly as possible, to keep the theorists from further dividing our citizen, and driving the gooks to doing these kinds of horrific things.

I understand the need to gather pure and clean data after a crime seen……. An obvious attempt, and very near miss, at killing Trump or any other Presidential Candidate seems to require a different approach than the norm?

I recognize the endless circle my questions cause. Granted, I asked, and you responded, and asked a question back to me. I’ve attempted to answer you to the best of my ability.

Regarding SS statement that a sloping roof is difficult to secure is nonsense in my opinion. In this case, and under these heightened emotions, all they would have need to do was have sniper teams, elevated on both sides of the building’s roof, from other structures or from a man made platform of some kind. Its wasn’t like that ridge was a hundred feet in the air. A couple of snipers in a back hoe bucket could have covered the outside of that building easily…….. a stupid idea, but you get the point. Hell, people standing on the ground, 50 yards away could see the shooters enter body. Yes….. Vanilla you did say it was a botched plan, that should and will take time to determine why…….. these specific questions and others, can and should be addressed quickly, under these circumstances, the last thing we need right now is for people’s mistrust in our systems to get hotter.
 
I would submit that no matter what they say or do, conspiracy theories are going to fan the flames as much as possible.

Because of that, I value accuracy over speediness on this one. We are still less than 72 hours from when the guy climbed up on a roof.

Knowing standard (and scientifically supported) officer involved critical incident interview protocols, we are barely entering the time that all those involved would be interviewed officially by internal powers.

I certainly don’t want these people talking to the press before they complete their internal reviews. If August hits and we still have no answers, I’ll be joining you in the impatient line. I’m definitely not worried about not having all details less than 3 full days after a major incident like this unfolded. And I don’t know that I ever want the snipers talking to the press right now. I want to know all about this as much as anyone, but knowing some of how all this works, I can wait at least a week before I get to upset about transparency.

Conspiracy theorist and going to conspire. Nothing we say or do will stop that.
 
I would submit that no matter what they say or do, conspiracy theories are going to fan the flames as much as possible.

Because of that, I value accuracy over speediness on this one. We are still less than 72 hours from when the guy climbed up on a roof.

Knowing standard (and scientifically supported) officer involved critical incident interview protocols, we are barely entering the time that all those involved would be interviewed officially by internal powers.

I certainly don’t want these people talking to the press before they complete their internal reviews. If August hits and we still have no answers, I’ll be joining you in the impatient line. I’m definitely not worried about not having all details less than 3 full days after a major incident like this unfolded. And I don’t know that I ever want the snipers talking to the press right now. I want to know all about this as much as anyone, but knowing some of how all this works, I can wait at least a week before I get to upset about transparency.

Conspiracy theorist and going to conspire. Nothing we say or do will stop that.
I understand you’re rational.
 
All that said Lump...there are some serious issues on this one and I expect the leaders responsible to answer them, and answer for them.

I don't need to even be in the conspiracy line to know this thing got messed up badly, and that is unacceptable for the situation.
 
Answer Them Truthfully?

Or To Their Likings?

All that said Lump...there are some serious issues on this one and I expect the leaders responsible to answer them, and answer for them.

I don't need to even be in the conspiracy line to know this thing got messed up badly, and that is unacceptable for the situation.
 
Answer Them Truthfully?

Or To Their Likings?

I guess that depends on your perpsective. I always want truthful answers, so that is an easy one for me. Someone with less standards of truthfulness may need to sort out if this is one of the times they care about the truth or not, I guess.
 
You Might Want The Truth Niller!

But Do You Trust Much Of Any Of The BS Anymore?



I guess that depends on your perpsective. I always want truthful answers, so that is an easy one for me. Someone with less standards of truthfulness may need to sort out if this is one of the times they care about the truth or not, I guess.
 
I'm kind of leaning towards fire team #3 as who took out the shooter. Around the 11 minute mark. The whole video is pretty good.

 
And speaking of incompetency... Read this headline, no wonder the media and oneye are so ******* up... Thanks Reuters
LMMFAO

 
And speaking of incompetency... Read this headline, no wonder the media and oneye are so ******* up... Thanks Reuters
LMMFAO

Sniper#1: There's a guy on that roof with a gun.
Sniper#2: Don't worry about it, it's not our job.
 
And yet…….. she has bought into every lie and propaganda broadcast the Demos have made since the day she got hired.

The most dangerous part is she is as sincere in her comments as she seems to be………. she’s all in, heart and soul in what she believes.

Scary stuff……. right there, cuz there are millions more, just like her.
 
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Anyone who's dealt with a government agency, shouldn't be and isn't surprised that they are incompetent.

10 year olds playing Call of Duty know the best sniping spots on are elevated positions. We can't expect government to understand these things
 

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