The other elections?LYMAN!
My Vote Will Piss A Bunch Of People Off!
Attorney General in the state have all turned out quite corrupt. Reyes may be the worst of the AG’s we’ve had as far as corruption and cover up and that’s saying something.Cox, Curtis, Moore.
Undecided on AG. That office is a CF
Also, curious, are you in Trevor Lee’s district? Given you’re in the first district just curious.Cox, Curtis, Moore.
Undecided on AG. That office is a CF
My across the street neighbor has a 4'x8' Lyman sign, wears Lyman t shirts.
So, ain't a chance I'd vote Lyman. So Cox.
Moore if only because I still remember Bishop.
Staggs? Curtis keeps running "won't let Biden steal our lands" commercials.? I'm sure Staggs isn't better, but Curtis using it in commercials I don't like. And honestly that last shot at the debate about Curtis stock trades, I won't lie, it worked in me.
AG.
Need help on this one.
If Trump wins, Mike Lee will be his AG
LYMAN!
My Vote Will Piss A Bunch Of People Off!
I'm Expecting Somebody To Say:
But Lyman Spent Some Time In The CAN!
Sure Did!
On One Of The PHONIEST F'N Things I've Ever Seen!
I’m hopeful that Daniela Harding can beat Lee. He’s done some really gross things online. From running a deznat burner account calling lack women lazy and dumb. Calling Native American’s savages. Saying the Jazz should be moved out of state, saying BYU needs cleansing, saying Governor Cox is a spineless coward(while not seeing the irony of doing that behind a purposely created anonymous Twitter account). He’s the one state race I’d love to see flip. He’s more than earned losing his seat. Cox and Herbert have endorsed his opponent, Mike Schultz endorsed Lee. Kinda surprisingly because he condemned him 6 months ago and the things he said on his anonymous Twitter account, but gotta play politics. Schultz endorsing him is just gross. Cox even donated $3,000 to Trevor Lee’s opponent. I hope more people are made aware of some of the things Lee has done in his district. Harding is not a nut job, she also isn’t running a negative campaign which can be an issue sometimes. I wish she’d let voters know more about her opponent at times from what I’ve seen from her campaign.I'm not in Trevor Lee's district, I'm in Cache Valley. Trevor Lee is everything wrong with our caucus system, IMO.
I'd take Blake Moore over Mike Lee. Of course, I can't think of many I wouldn't take over Mike Lee.
My favorite line of Lee's was when he was referring to Phil Lyman and he said something like, "He was pretty awful, and that's coming from me."
Even Mike Lee knows what a jackass he is.
I agree Curtis’s campaign ads are cringy. I’ve met Curtis twice, idk, I feel his ads are out of step with who he actually is. Curtis stayed late at the event I met him and put away chairs and cleaned up. None of the other candidates were near as personable or normal people. Curtis isn’t Lee, he isn’t Romney, he’s somewhere in the middle of that. At the end of the day however if you’re voting for a Republican in Utah, they’re likely antagonistic to public lands. Staggs if you follow any of his campaign pages is essentially running as Mike Lee’s clone. Staggs hasn’t done a ton of actual campaigning but if you look at his feeds he’s running the 2nd dirtiest campaign in state history just behind Lyman, promising to be Mike Lee Jr. Curtis has said “If you’re expecting me to be Mitt Romney you’re going to be disappointed. If you’re expecting me to be Mike Lee you’re going to be disappointed. I’m going to be John Curtis.” Wilson, well Wilson’s the guy who tried to pick both lanes, thought he inherited a Senate seat (until Curtis stepped in) and is just the guy no one likes I feel like lol.My across the street neighbor has a 4'x8' Lyman sign, wears Lyman t shirts.
So, ain't a chance I'd vote Lyman. So Cox.
Moore if only because I still remember Bishop.
Staggs? Curtis keeps running "won't let Biden steal our lands" commercials.? I'm sure Staggs isn't better, but Curtis using it in commercials I don't like. And honestly that last shot at the debate about Curtis stock trades, I won't lie, it worked in me.
AG.
Need help on this one.
If Trump wins, Mike Lee will be his AG
He did the opposite of what Biden did.So Hossy?
Tell Us All They Great Things Cox Has Done?
My across the street neighbor has a 4'x8' Lyman sign, wears Lyman t shirts.
So, ain't a chance I'd vote Lyman. So Cox.
Moore if only because I still remember Bishop.
Staggs? Curtis keeps running "won't let Biden steal our lands" commercials.? I'm sure Staggs isn't better, but Curtis using it in commercials I don't like. And honestly that last shot at the debate about Curtis stock trades, I won't lie, it worked in me.
AG.
Need help on this one.
If Trump wins, Mike Lee will be his AG
Listen, you’re a loser if you do that. Period. 90% of people are rolling their eyes thinking you’re a moron if you’re a political flag in back of the truck kinda person.I'll Bet JakeH Might Know The Truck I'm Gonna Mention?
Older Dodge Parading BIG FJB Flags Off The Back Of His Truck!
I've Seen Him In Roosevelt & Vernal!
!
Listen, you’re a loser if you do that. Period. 90% of people are rolling their eyes thinking you’re a moron if you’re a political flag in back of the truck kinda person.
If I had a “F*** Donald Trump” flag in my truck I’d also very much be a loser.Ya!
I Wouldn't Recommend You Or Anybody-else Moving Here!
There Are Some Real ASSSHOLES Out Here!
Okay. It’s doesn’t change the fact if you do it you’re a loser.Last I Knew this Is Still America!
Where There Is Still Freedom Of Speech!
You May Not Like Some Of What You See Or Hear!
And I May Not Like Some Of What I See Or Hear!
Gonna have To Either Deal With It!
Or Finish PUSSIFYING The Rest Of Americans!
Okay. It’s doesn’t change the fact if you do it you’re a loser.
So?
Some People Have LET'S GO BRANDON Stickers On Their Windows!
Some People Have TRUMP SUCKS Stickers On Their Windows!
I Can Tell Right F'N Now Which Sticker Bothers You The Most!
Okay.So Where you Been Oneye?
How Bout it Hossy?
Post # 18!
That’s exactly where Trump had his planned fundraising event he cancelled.Biden wrapped up the Park City donation win.
Agreed on all. Don’t fly flags out the back of your truck. Any of them. It screams loser, and is even a danger to other drivers at times. If you wanna put a flag in your yard, fine(I wouldn’t do that either other than the American flag) but don’t be an obnoxious loser. I’ve seen some on vehicles that are legitimately a danger to other people on the road with how they are set up on the vehicle.I actually agree with Oneye on this one.
Including pride flags, Ukraine flags, Israeli flags, Mexico flags, Don't tread on me.
I actually agree with Oneye on this one.
Including pride flags, Ukraine flags, Israeli flags, Mexico flags, Don't tread on me.
Only one flag(maybe a state flag too), should fly.
I mean, I wasn’t implying Biden was going to win the state so. I will be an RFK voter. I don’t believe Joe at his age should be serving 4 more years either. I would recommend listening to the latest Meateater podcast which is a 2 hour conversation Steven has with RFK. Also, yes he ties Biden, but that means he takes a lot more voters from Trump (he takes Trump under 50%, yes I’ve seen the poll)Again, just shows if Utahn’s are given alternatives they do not like Donald Trump, at least slightly over half the state still doesn’t really love the dude.Cute post, but doesn't really represent Utah verry well.
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If you include Kennedy in the polling Kennedy is ties with Biden.
Poll: Trump leads big among Utah voters; Biden, Kennedy tied https://www.deseret.com/politics/20...ads-big-among-utah-voters-biden-kennedy-tied/
Nice spinn, 18% undecided odds are Trump will take enough of the undecided and be over 50%.I mean, I wasn’t implying Biden was going to win the state so. I will be an RFK voter. I don’t believe Joe at his age should be serving 4 more years either. I would recommend listening to the latest Meateater podcast which is a 2 hour conversation Steven has with RFK. Also, yes he ties Biden, but that means he takes a lot more voters from Trump (he takes Trump under 50%, yes I’ve seen the poll)Again, just shows if Utahn’s are given alternatives they do not like Donald Trump, at least slightly over half the state still doesn’t really love the dude.
Nice spinn, 18% undecided odds are Trump will take enough of the undecided and be over 50%.
I don't need to listen to Meateater podcast not a fan.
RFK is as far left as Biden on all issues except covid and the industrial military war machine.
Mike Lee is most likely going to in Trump’s administration, if Yrump wins. If Trump don't win Mike will win in 4, and again in 10, and probably in 16.Mike Lee finally stepped on some toes that matter. Maloy holding her seat, and everyone making it clear they are against Lee on this is lovely to see. Pissed lots of people off petty stabbing Maloy in the back. In 4 years, Blake Moore needs to primary him. There are plenty of folks who will remember the day he stabbed Maloy in the back, and supported Lyman and Staggs over Cox and Curtis. Lee finally has a chance to be very vulnerable in 4 years of the right person runs against him.
Utah's 3 other representatives back Celeste Maloy's reelection bid over GOP challenger
Reps. John Curtis, Blake Moore and Burgess Owens issued their support Thursday for Rep. Celeste Maloy in her reelection bid against Republican challenger Colby Jenkins.www.ksl.com
Grow up my guy. My God.
"I have my mind made up and don't want any information or nuance".Nice spinn, 18% undecided odds are Trump will take enough of the undecided and be over 50%.
I don't need to listen to Meateater podcast not a fan.
RFK is as far left as Biden on all issues except covid and the industrial military war machine.
Here's the thing, all a candidate such as say Blake Moore has to do is get Utah County on their side. If a candidate gets Utah county on their side, with Salt Lake County, along with being a congressman who wins 60% of his vote consistently in his district, he can absolutely beat Lee. It's why Curtis is nearly unbeatable. SLCo will vote heavily for him, as will Utah County. Along with likely some pretty heavy parts of his district. Mike Lee hasn't ran against a serious candidate running a competent campaign, and he absolutely has a lot of GOP/llocal Republicans upset with him over the whole Maloy thing. He's threw shots at Cox and Curtis as well. Expect backlash, and yes, if say Blake Moore runs and every Wasatch Front legislator along with Cox, Maloy, Curtis, and other prominent politicians endorse a competent R candidate, he can be beat.Mike Lee is most likely going to in Trump’s administration, if Yrump wins. If Trump don't win Mike will win in 4, and again in 10, and probably in 16.
Mike Lee sends out his political team once a quarter throughout rural Utah and has them have meeting sites at different locations. The citizens of Utah can go meet with them and discuss issues, I have done it several times.
You might not like him but no one else does that on a regular basses.
Why make me agree with Oneye?
Dudes who fly flags lie about their height, and their dick size.
You have no idea of what information I take in."I have my mind made up and don't want any information or nuance".
Big surprise.
You have no idea of what information I take in.
Just Because someone doesn't want to watch a podcast that you like means "I have my mind made up".
Go back to your basement and hide out again.
I actually agree with Oneye on this one.
Including pride flags, Ukraine flags, Israeli flags, Mexico flags, Don't tread on me.
I really do not believe anyone cares about your political analyst.Here's the thing, all a candidate such as say Blake Moore has to do is get Utah County on their side. If a candidate gets Utah county on their side, with Salt Lake County, along with being a congressman who wins 60% of his vote consistently in his district, he can absolutely beat Lee. It's why Curtis is nearly unbeatable. SLCo will vote heavily for him, as will Utah County. Along with likely some pretty heavy parts of his district. Mike Lee hasn't ran against a serious candidate running a competent campaign, and he absolutely has a lot of GOP/llocal Republicans upset with him over the whole Maloy thing. He's threw shots at Cox and Curtis as well. Expect backlash, and yes, if say Blake Moore runs and every Wasatch Front legislator along with Cox, Maloy, Curtis, and other prominent politicians endorse a competent R candidate, he can be beat.
McMullin ran a lot of ads, he ran a very underwhelming campaign. Blake Moore was considering running for Romney's seat, he should absolutely consider going for Lee's in 4 years and he would have a legitimate shot at winning because he'd pull plenty from CD1, and he'd also be able to sway SLCo and Utah County pretty heavily with endorsements of the people Lee has pissed off locally. Lee has the lowest approval rating in the state and won his last election with the lowest % of any statewide Republican candidate in decades minus Trump. If Cox, Curtis, Maloy, and others line up against him, he can absolutely be vulnerable enough to lose. Many of them didn't support him being re-elected to begin with, but just kind of stayed on the sidelines and quiet with the McMullin/Lee race. The Maloy thing made him some enemies and likely plenty of endorsements of his opponent next time around if it's someone like Moore.
PS it would be beyond lovely if he ends up the hell out of the state by January.
I really do not believe anyone cares about your political analyst.
Alot is going to happen in the next four years, probably is going to be the most turbulent times in America history outside of the Revolution and Civil War.
Criticizing Cox, help gets my vote.
Yes Cox will win the primary, but that is because he is running against a unwinnable candidate. (I belive Vanilla has clearly pointed that out).
There is a reason Cox got heavily booed at the Republican convention. And there is a reason Cox is having a real hard time finding votes in Sanpete his home county.
Oh I know what kinda information you take in lol.You have no idea of what information I take in.
Just Because someone doesn't want to watch a podcast that you like means "I have my mind made up".
Go back to your basement and hide out again.
Cox got booed at the convention, like Herbert, like others. Cox will be your Governor for as long as he wants to be, just like Herbert who also got booed at those clown shows was until he decided to retire. Here’s the thing, the conventions are clown shows that don’t represent actual Utah voters and this primary will show it in the biggest way we’ve ever seen. Idk if you watched the Blake Moore/Paul Miller debate. Millet also won at the convention against Moore. Moore will beat him by 40+% points in the actual election and that debate showed the type of candidate that wins at the convention. Miller looked like an uninformed idiot during that debate. That’s the kinda candidate those clown shows nominate, all for them to get blasted 70% to 30% in the actual election.I really do not believe anyone cares about your political analyst.
Alot is going to happen in the next four years, probably is going to be the most turbulent times in America history outside of the Revolution and Civil War.
Criticizing Cox, help gets my vote.
Yes Cox will win the primary, but that is because he is running against a unwinnable candidate. (I belive Vanilla has clearly pointed that out).
There is a reason Cox got heavily booed at the Republican convention. And there is a reason Cox is having a real hard time finding votes in Sanpete his home county.
Because he’s not MAGA. And that’s the litmus test for party shills.I know some of the criticism.
Why do you suppose it is?
Because he’s not MAGA. And that’s the litmus test for party shills.
True, I don’t see Jorgensen as a shill either, but people usually have some sort of challenger.Jorgensen isn't a shill, NOT MAGA, and Cox neighbor.
It's not that simple
You are an idiot!True, I don’t see Jorgensen as a shill either, but people usually have some sort of challenger.
Also, Jorgenson agrees Lee’s moves against Maloy have potential risk:
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I know several state senators and house members who are very upset with Lee’s surprise back stabbing. He’s took jabs at Cox as well. More indirectly, but it’s there. You can think that but there are plenty of legislators who were very much “like warm” on Lee’s last election who are now not on his side of things at all. If Blake Moore ran he’d get a ton of GOP endorsements along the Wasatch Front at this point against Lee. It’s not the only person I’ve heard say they won’t support Lee again. It’s not a guess. As much as I politic on this forum I politic a lot more on Twitter and I’ve had two state (GOP)Senators I interact with regularly tell me he has lost their support at this point. Oh and PS, both of them supported Lee over McMullin publicly in 2022. Yes, Lee has in fact lost some friends over his garbage. Thing is, this time he lost some that matter.You are an idiot!
"Potential Risks", that is what you are hanging your hat on?
Again I will say it "You Are A Idiot".
Jorgensen couldn’t garner 10% of the vote but yeah he certainly would have beat Cox in the actual primary…..and I’m the idiot lol.I knew Cox long before he became Lieutenant Gov.
He has never made a decision in his life without checking which way the wind is blowing.
Again I know you are an idiot, but let me say it again. HE WILL WIN BECAUSE HE IS RUNNING AGAINST PHIL LYMAN.
Jorgensen would have won Sanpete easily, but Jorgensen knew he could not win the purple idiots of the wasatch front vote.
Yes you are an idiot!Jorgensen couldn’t garner 10% of the vote but yeah he certainly would have beat Cox in the actual primary…..and I’m the idiot lol.
Cox is a popular Governor my guy, it’s you who is out of sync.
Mike Lee's reelection is 4 years away, and you are banking on what some politicians said on tweeter.I know several state senators and house members who are very upset with Lee’s surprise back stabbing. He’s took jabs at Cox as well. More indirectly, but it’s there. You can think that but there are plenty of legislators who were very much “like warm” on Lee’s last election who are now not on his side of things at all. If Blake Moore ran he’d get a ton of GOP endorsements along the Wasatch Front at this point against Lee. It’s not the only person I’ve heard say they won’t support Lee again. It’s not a guess. As much as I politic on this forum I politic a lot more on Twitter and I’ve had two state (GOP)Senators I interact with regularly tell me he has lost their support at this point. Oh and PS, both of them supported Lee over McMullin publicly in 2022. Yes, Lee has in fact lost some friends over his garbage. Thing is, this time he lost some that matter.
He’s trying a bit of a power play to turn Utah more to his brand of nonsense. So far it isn’t going so well.
But I thought it was just because Cox was running against Lyman? Who beats Cox buddy? No one. He’s going to throttle Lyman by 40 points and would have easily beaten anyone lol. He has one of the highest approval ratings for a Governor of either party in the entire country.Yes you are an idiot!
I clearly stated Jorgensen would have beating Cox in Sanpete but would have lost because of the Wasatch Front.
Stop changing what others state.
Personal conversations buddy these are private messages with these individuals not tweets, the right person would have to run against him but it could materialize. I didn’t, but totally did know you were a MAGA anti-public lands Mike Lee fanboy.Mike Lee's reelection is 4 years away, and you are banking on what some politicians said on tweeter.
You are an idiot.
Private message, open tweet.Personal conversations buddy these are private messages with these individuals not tweets, the right person would have to run against him but it could materialize. I didn’t, but totally did know you were a MAGA anti-public lands Mike Lee fanboy.
Personal conversations buddy these are private messages with these individuals not tweets, the right person would have to run against him but it could materialize. I didn’t, but totally did know you were a MAGA anti-public lands Mike Lee fanboy.
Um.
To be clear.
You're bashing Lee, who beat an incumbent for bucking status quo of incumbent protection, and then using his anti public land stance in a hit about Maloy? Maloy, Cliven Bundy's cousin?
Pretty funny watching how lathered up you are in defense of a Bundy.
Of course incumbents are irritated by Lees move, they believe they should be guaranteed positions.
As to Cox, the economy is good, he will win. But honestly, can anyone point to anything he's actually done, other than br smart enough to ride the wave?
Somebody Needs To put A Stop To This BS & NOW!
Like Condemning Them Is Gonna Do Any-F'N-Thing
Cox Needs To Man-Up!
Maybe/Possibly DO SOMETHING Rather Than Making A Show By Just SAYING SOMETHING!What is he supposed to do on this one? What exactly does “man-up” consist of here?
No!Call up the Utah National Guard and go to war with Colorado? Bomb Denver?
Maybe/Possibly DO SOMETHING Rather Than Making A Show By Just SAYING SOMETHING!
No!
Let's Sit Back & Not Do A GAWD-DAMNED Thing & See If It Fixes Itself!
I’ll ask again: give me an example. What is the governor to do in this situation? Or in other words, Man-Up bobcat.
Don’t just flap your gums, tell us what you want him to do.
Haha! You fellers smell that? Smells an awful lot like puddle cat.
Did I say it’s funny?
I don’t recall saying it was funny nor do I recall laughing at anything other than your fake @$$.
the only thing I’ve asked is what you want him to do. I’ve offered no support of Gov Cox on this.
Just curious what the blowhard, loud mouth gum flapper would do if he was in his shoes, since said blowhard loud mouthed gum flapper seems to know so much about this topic.
But shockingly, all I see is even harder blowing gum flapping, and no real answers. Shocker I tell ya! Totally shocked.
Some people just like to b&$@?. We’ve got a word for those folks.
I noticed you neglected to mention who exactly was going to beat Cox.Private message, open tweet.
It is still tweeter.
You are an idiot.
Maloy has been there 7 months, just barely an incumbent lol. And yes Maloy is much more reasonable than Lee’s minion. The other candidate ran because Lee recruited him to be his lap boy in the House who does whatever he wants. It goes well beyond public lands as to what makes Mike Lee a clown, but it’s certainly his worst trait.Um.
To be clear.
You're bashing Lee, who beat an incumbent for bucking status quo of incumbent protection, and then using his anti public land stance in a hit about Maloy? Maloy, Cliven Bundy's cousin?
Pretty funny watching how lathered up you are in defense of a Bundy.
Of course incumbents are irritated by Lees move, they believe they should be guaranteed positions.
As to Cox, the economy is good, he will win. But honestly, can anyone point to anything he's actually done, other than br smart enough to ride the wave?
Huge surprise.One For Oneye:
Poll: Trump leads big among Utah voters; Biden, Kennedy tied
Former President Donald Trump maintains a dominant lead over President Joe Biden in Utah, according to a new Deseret News/Hinckley Institute of Politics poll.www.ksl.com
Cox Condemns Denver!
WAFJ!
Somebody Needs To put A Stop To This BS & NOW!
Like Condemning Them Is Gonna Do Any-F'N-Thing
Cox Needs To Man-Up!
I Posted The PROPOSAL & You PUSSED Out On It!
There Was Something In It For Everybody!
Your proposal for what the governor should do here has something for everything?
Ha! You can’t even keep your own bipolar rants straight yourself anymore.
Bow out elkass. You’re making a fool of yourself. Or you can tell us what big bad bessy would do here. But I’m guessing we’ll get the classic giant nothingburger from you, because some people just have to b%€£?.
That Answer Your F'N Question?
Nope, not even a little. But you don’t have the backbone or the stones to ever answer a question when you start b$€£¥in, so we’ll just let you b$&£€.
I’m starting to believe Teddy was prophetic with this quote, and wrote it specifically for elkassassin:
“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”