I’m going to continue to make inflammatory posts in an effort to melt the fiber between Vernal and SLC.
Thank God. No one likes the basin anyway, it's like Wyoming with all the meth, but none of the strippers
Alot of us wish everybody would quit coming to the basin...lolThank God. No one likes the basin anyway, it's like Wyoming with all the meth, but none of the strippers
Williams makes a good adjustable rear peep sight. I used them on several muzzies over the years with a fine fiber optic front bead like the williams firesight.Who's got a good peep sight? I would be interested in trying that out.
How many are actually going to make the change? When was the last time you had your license checked, let alone your rifle??
Me and my 3 sons will actually go through with the change to follow the rules/regulations. Just saying.How many are actually going to make the change? When was the last time you had your license checked, let alone your rifle??
What optic are you putting on them ?Me and my 3 sons will actually go through with the change to follow the rules/regulations. Just saying.
Just ordered and received 4 picatinny rails and purchased 3 of the new 4 new optics. Also have two sets of Williams peep sights.
Got both the Vortex Spitfire 1X prism scope and the Leupold Freedom 1X RDS Red dot. Put them on and see which works the best.What optic are you putting on them ?
They did. It is called the HAMSS hunt.Hoping LEO will have enough grief with poachers that kept their >1x scopes on that Utah will go to a no-scope policy soon.
And open ignition only.
And no sabots.
And…..
Then just adopt Idaho’s regulations.
Can’t hunt HAMSS every year.They did. It is called the HAMSS hunt.
The only hunt you can hunt every year in Utah now is the archery and that is is select units, not all of them.Can’t hunt HAMSS every year.
I thought the same thing...... But ended up trying the Leupold Freedom RDS... and I 100% think its the ticket....Well my long range muzzle loader won't work well with a one power scope. I guess it's going to have to be a 1500 dollar adjustable peep sight. It's still not going to help my old eyes to focus. Almost hate to take apart that muzzle loader. It shoots better then some of my rifles.
Agreed, and VERY sad.The only hunt you can hunt every year in Utah now is the archery and that is is select units, not all of them.
I agree, but I'm really hoping the current change has that effect to some point. I know putting on the higher power scopes really hurt the drawing odds.Agreed, and VERY sad.
My hopes would be if we copied Idaho’s muzzy regs enough folks would bail from muzzy season that average Joe could pull a muzzy tag every year.
Only one way to find out…
Yes, I hope you are 100% correct.I agree, but I'm really hoping the current change has that effect to some point. I know putting on the higher power scopes really hurt the drawing odds.
NM went to iron sights only and it barely made dent in draw odds. They got slightly better in some hunts and worse in others since it made everyone think it was gonna get better. It won’t make a lick of difference in UT. Harvest rates will likely get worse so they can issue more tags which may in turn make odds a bit better but it’s gonna be minimal. I agree with the change, but it’s not gonna help muchI agree, but I'm really hoping the current change has that effect to some point. I know putting on the higher power scopes really hurt the drawing odds.
This ^^^^NM went to iron sights only and it barely made dent in draw odds. They got slightly better in some hunts and worse in others since it made everyone think it was gonna get better. It won’t make a lick of difference in UT. Harvest rates will likely get worse so they can issue more tags which may in turn make odds a bit better but it’s gonna be minimal. I agree with the change, but it’s not gonna help much
Sad but true.Ah, yes, the Utard way.
I already have 2 muzzleloaders set up with Williams Western Precision peep/front sights (ballistic reticle). I would consider a 1X scope if designed with a similar reticle and higher quality than the "el cheapo" Crossfire.So curious what everyone going to do or what they recommend for sights on muzzleloaders in utah?
Although I agree with the new rules in many cases I wish they would have changed after my wife drew a muzzleloader tag lol!!!
What's everyone thinking???
How do those ballistic reticles work? Seems like the unmagnified subtensions would be so close together you wouldn’t be able to tell them apart? Especially in low light?I already have 2 muzzleloaders set up with Williams Western Precision peep/front sights (ballistic reticle). I would consider a 1X scope if designed with a similar reticle and higher quality than the "el cheapo" Crossfire.
C'mon optics manufacturers get cracking and come up with something of decent quality, affordable, and available by July so that we can try it on our muzzies before Fall season.
At conventional open sight muzzleloader hunting ranges (up to 150 yds. for me) the hashmarks can be easily seen/discerned and they are sufficiently spaced so as not to confuse the shooter. As with any low light conditions one needs to determine how far they can accurately shoot at an animal under those conditions. Williams does make a non-ballistic front fiberoptic insert sight (.10" and .19") to address those low light conditions but I find that it covers the target too much beyond 50 yds. for my liking. I would suggest you check out Muzzle-loaders.com and YouTube to get the fine details.How do those ballistic reticles work? Seems like the unmagnified subtensions would be so close together you wouldn’t be able to tell them apart? Especially in low light?
They are actually .029” and .019” (assuming you’re talking about the Western Precision front sights).Williams does make a non-ballistic front fiberoptic insert sight (.10" and .19") to address those low light conditions
I stand corrected. ThanksThey are actually .029” and .019” (assuming you’re talking about the Western Precision front sights).
Shucks, Crossfire? I'd rather take my chances with a World Class Tasco (sarcasm).I'm not sure how good the turret are on a Chinese Vortex Crossfire, but you can half cheek turn one into a target turret with this....
No need for sarcasm, I’d take the Tasco as well.Shucks, Crossfire? I'd rather take my chances with a World Class Tasco (sarcasm).
When the warden asks if that is a variable on your muzzyI have thought a lot about this. I have spent so much time and money sighting in my muzzleloader. Not wanting to change my set up. I think I will turn my 24 power scope to one power and just tape the dial so it stays at one power. I am sure if a game warden see this he will understand .
I have thought a lot about this. I have spent so much time and money sighting in my muzzleloader. Not wanting to change my set up. I think I will turn my 24 power scope to one power and just tape the dial so it stays at one power. I am sure if a game warden see this he will understand .
I haven’t seen a 24 power scope that turns down to one but it was a thought. But that ten thing might work!Don't BS Us BIGJOHN!
You Can't Turn That Scope Down That Low!
Maybe Scratch The Zero Off Of The 10!
Better yet I was thinking of dialing down my high power scope to 1X and then applying Loctite (Blue) to it.I have thought a lot about this. I have spent so much time and money sighting in my muzzleloader. Not wanting to change my set up. I think I will turn my 24 power scope to one power and just tape the dial so it stays at one power. I am sure if a game warden see this he will understand .
I prefer Loctite red.Better yet I was thinking of dialing down my high power scope to 1X and then applying Loctite (Blue) to it.
If I were a Utah warden, I'd keep my eyes peeled for those quick detach scope mounts under the open sites......
No....I'd be a Warden......So Homer?
You're Gonna Be An AZZHOLE If You Were A Warden?
Do You Know What We've Got Invested In Dialing One Of These SmokePoles In To Gnats Ass Accuracy?
No....I'd be a Warden......