Well Bess - this buck below was killed by the preeminent outfitter for Pronghorn (Eli & Tony Grimmett) and they guessed him to be 3 years old. The buck scored 90".
Pretty well known that Pronghorn are much different than deer and elk and reach maturity at age 2-4. I know you don't like facts and prefer to bash the DWR, so carry on
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Bess - you are entertaining and this place would not be the same without you, but I think I am going to take Eli and Tony Grimmett's word on antelope over yours. No offense intended
Bess - you are entertaining and this place would not be the same without you, but I think I am going to take Eli and Tony Grimmett's word on antelope over yours. No offense intended
I Said It May Very Well Be Different In Different Places,Did You Not Read That?
Of Course You Don't!
I posted this a couple months ago when this same topic was brought up. It explains a lot , and I would trust what Eli says.
Pronghorn Evolution and Management
By David Hewitt, Boone and Crockett Club Professional Member It is an axiom that management for tropwww.boone-crockett.org
did you read the article? They acknowledge differences from area to area:
Absolutely - especially if my boy draws his Bonanza pronghorn tag. If we could time the tour during the hunt, we could even shoot one and take bets on the age of the buck once the tooth lab does the aging. sound good?
I'll let you know if he pulls the tag!
These Grimmett threads make me chuckle. Tony did the taxi on my desert 35ish years ago (beautiful work btw). I think Eli was crawling around on a pile of salted hides last I saw him
These Grimmett threads make me chuckle. Tony did the taxi on my desert 35ish years ago (beautiful work btw). I think Eli was crawling around on a pile of salted hides last I saw him
He’s a taxidermist…..I’m sure some of those hides had been there for 2 or 3 years
The DWR are not managing for 2 year old bucks to be harvested. It looks like you suckered into elkass's Kool aid. The data shows in most areas that a 3 year old buck will reach at least 90 percent of his lifetime average score. So why not hunt them before they die of some other cause and never get to be hunted if they are not going to get much bigger?
You're actually the one that needs to pay attention. Of course not all reach close to their peak at three but the majority do. There's always a few exceptions.
There is a study out there someplace I’ve seen. Pronghorn were measured and aged. Can’t recall where it was done, but it’s been a while ago. The max avg. horn length was 2 ish years old, max score was 2-3 years old, iirc. Matched pretty well with the info from B&C.
Here's info on the real research , if anyone is interested. It's in the pronghorn management plan.
How do you know when they never live to be 4?
That's why they did some studies and followed bucks for several years. The results showed the bucks didn't get much bigger past year three.
So when you agree with someone, you are having ups with them and when you disagree, then down they go. That's awesome.
Some being the key word and "not much bigger," is still bigger.
People better start caring, pronghorn are in steep decline and aren't bouncing back.
I'd be thrilled to kill an 80" buck and I think most hunters would too. I think that's the whole point on giving more opportunity to the average joe hunter.
Lots of reasons.
Except for the fact most bucks never reach 80 and killing the few that do before they're 4 all but assures they won't do much breeding. I've watched low 70's bucks that were 4+ run off younger bucks that scored more (that 2 year old upper 70's buck mentioned earlier).
I haven't shot but 79 of them, probably seen a couple hundred more than that shot by friends.
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