Snowmobiles

LIK2HNT · Feb 10, 2023

Any members here knowledgeable in snowmobiles? Been many years since I have been on one. And even then it was one I rented and only once or twice a year.
Looking for information on a good utility type sled to use snow camping, pull a small sled, predator hunt, and use fishing. Not looking for fast or bad a$$. Looking for reliability and hopefully east to work on myself. Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks

Gator · Feb 10, 2023

Craiglist has bunch.
We had them growing up best fun you can have with your clothes on,
My nephews use them all winter for check cows and such.
They shine when hunting coyotes.

elkassassin · Feb 10, 2023

The Best Ones For That Type of Use are Rare Or Wore Out & Gone!

We Liked The Air Cooled Machines For Putting Around Looking For Tracks!

Most Modern Day Machines Won't Even Idle That Slow!

Most Machines Have Been Liquid Cooled For Many Years Now!

You Gotta Get Them Out In The Snow Quite Often To Keep The Engine Cool Depending On Temperatures!

I Don't Know What Would Be Available In Newer Machines That Would Fit Your Needs of Use?

I'd Check In To Machines That Are Made For Some Of Alaska's Needs & Uses Of Machines!

LIK2HNT · Feb 10, 2023

elkassassin said:
The Best Ones For That Type of Use are Rare Or Wore Out & Gone!

We Liked The Air Cooled Machines For Putting Around Looking For Tracks!

Most Modern Day Machines Won't Even Idle That Slow!

Most Machines Have Been Liquid Cooled For Many Years Now!

You Gotta Get Them Out In The Snow Quite Often To Keep The Engine Cool Depending On Temperatures!

I Don't Know What Would Be Available In Newer Machines That Would Fit Your Needs of Use?

I'd Check In To Machines That Are Made For Some Of Alaska's Needs & Uses Of Machines!

Thanks
Seems like now a days (even with ATV/utv’s) speed is the selling point. Hard to find a reliable workhorse anymore.

elkassassin · Feb 10, 2023

I think All The Manufactures are Still Building Utility Machines!

I'm Sure They're Like Cadillac's Compared to what We Use To Run!

I'd Study Google & YouTube!

elkassassin · Feb 10, 2023

Everybody Now Days Want 200+ HorsePower!

Then They Gotta Turbo Them!

Wondering When The E-Machine Will Show Up?

1989Cohunter · Feb 10, 2023

Ski doo tundras are pretty sweet utility sleds.

LIK2HNT · Feb 10, 2023

Any brands you prefer, or would avoid?
I remember years ago I would find 3 or 4 burned up remains of Polaris machines in the back country. Not sure if the issues were brand related, user error, or just more people used Polaris.

elkassassin · Feb 10, 2023

I Think Most Brands Are Perty Good!

The Bad Part Is They're Like Most Newer Vehicles,Lot's Of Electronics That Can & Will Cause Trouble Sooner Or Later!

That'd Be A Ford,Dodge,GM Argument But I'd Put My Personal Likes Yamaha,Polaris,Ski-Doo,Arctic Cat!

I'm Not Up On The Newer Machines Enough For Advice On Which Ones To Avoid!

LIK2HNT said:
Any brands you prefer, or would avoid?

mntnguide · Feb 10, 2023

my buddies who are big into ice fishing all run the Skidoo expeditions. very comfy, can pull heavy loads behind with ease. Skidoo engine is incredibly reliable especially on those sleds. I personally will stick to my Turbo in the mountains, but if youre looking for a utility type sled, take a look at those

1989Cohunter · Feb 10, 2023

The cool thing with ski do/can am is the linq systems.

MrShane · Feb 10, 2023

Yamaha has the best utility sleds.
Expensive though.

Blank · Feb 10, 2023

You might ask on the Alaska Forum, for people who do exactly what you are wanting to do. They use them for hours on end, and on a daily basis so they might have some better input

Iddogguy · Feb 10, 2023

I hate snowmobiles, with that said. I’ve hunted lions with my hounds for over 25 years. You have, to have a snowmobile. I’d either buy a new Skidoo Tundra or look for an old Polaris Trail Indy 500 fan cooled. If you by a new Tundra & baby It should last 20 years.

Firedad · Feb 10, 2023

My suggestion is avoid a trail sled in the Sierra cement unless you stick to groomed trails. You can go with a track in the 140s and be fine going off trail and won’t have trouble maneuvering in tighter places. Just let the snow settle before you go crazy. You probably don’t need tracks in the 150-160s but you might want a mt sled once you start riding. It’s awesome.

TheOneRidgeRunner · Feb 10, 2023

Got away from the snowmobile 15 years ago

PRCnut · Feb 10, 2023

Anywhere you wanna go! Lol ?

PRCnut · Feb 10, 2023

On a more serious note! Any of the suggestions above or look for an older Polaris 600. Easy to maneuver around and yet enough power if needed.

Themaddness · Feb 10, 2023

Polaris Indy Light.

Bigwiffy · Feb 10, 2023

LIK2HNT · Feb 10, 2023

TheOneRidgeRunner said:
Got away from the snowmobile 15 years ago

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What do you like better about the ATV with tracks? Wonder how much work it would be to swap from tires to tracks when out camping? Might be the way to go on my ‘08 Rhino.

elkassassin · Feb 10, 2023

The Awesome Suspension of Yester-Year There Wiff!

LIK2HNT · Feb 10, 2023

Ya, another crazy person. And I don’t need to go that fast.

elkassassin · Feb 10, 2023

Tracks Put alot Of Leverage On Spindles that were never made for it!

TheOneRidgeRunner · Feb 10, 2023

LIK2HNT said:
What do you like better about the ATV with tracks? Wonder how much work it would be to swap from tires to tracks when out camping? Might be the way to go on my ‘08 Rhino.

I was in the same boat as you, needed a work horse rather than speed. Sold the snowmobile and haven't looked back. I can install them in about an hour and take them off in 30 minutes.
I've ran 2 different sets for the last 15 years, and haven't had any breakdowns due to the tracks.
Can they go everywhere a sled can go? No, but they get me everywhere I want to go with ample amounts of gear.

Grouse Legs · Feb 10, 2023

Ski doo skandic sport 600. Lightweight, sounds like they are reliable and remarkably floaty and manueverable. From what i hear.

$10k brand new. No used sled horse trading needed.

1989Cohunter · Feb 10, 2023

How does electric power steering do with those tracks?

TheOneRidgeRunner · Feb 10, 2023

1989Cohunter said:
How does electric power steering do with those tracks?

Not sure, I dont have power steering

nfh · Feb 10, 2023

elkassassin said:
Everybody Now Days Want 200+ HorsePower!

Then They Gotta Turbo Them!

Wondering When The E-Machine Will Show Up?

When I was doing electrical work at Lake hotel in yellowstone we traveled by snowmobile. We had to use 4 strokes. Park service used 2 stroke machines plus they had turbos. Interesting how they held that standard.

MrShane · Feb 10, 2023

TheOneRidgeRunner said:
I was in the same boat as you, needed a work horse rather than speed. Sold the snowmobile and haven't looked back. I can install them in about an hour and take them off in 30 minutes.
I've ran 2 different sets for the last 15 years, and haven't had any breakdowns due to the tracks.
Can they go everywhere a sled can go? No, but they get me everywhere I want to go with ample amounts of gear.

I also run tracks, on a ‘07 Grizzly.
Use it for play, Elk hunts, and ice fishing.
Not a single problem in 6 yrs.

elkassassin · Feb 10, 2023

So MrShane?

Is Your GRIZZLY a 660?

And How Fast Will It Reasonably go Without Winding It Tight?

MrShane said:
I also run tracks, on a ‘07 Grizzly.
Use it for play, Elk hunts, and ice fishing.
Not a single problem in 6 yrs.

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Themaddness · Feb 10, 2023

MrShane said:
I also run tracks, on a ‘07 Grizzly.
Use it for play, Elk hunts, and ice fishing.
Not a single problem in 6 yrs.

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Best machines ever made

TheOneRidgeRunner · Feb 10, 2023

elkassassin said:
So MrShane?

Is Your GRIZZLY a 660?

And How Fast Will It Reasonably go Without Winding It Tight?

It isn't about the speed, want speed, buy a snowmobile. They're geared low, you end up going about 2/3 what your speedometer says you're going.

elkassassin · Feb 10, 2023

I Realize That!

Just Wondering about How Fast?

TheOneRidgeRunner said:
It isn't about the speed, want speed, buy a snowmobile. They're geared low, you end up going about 2/3 what your speedometer says you're going.

PRCnut · Feb 10, 2023

TheOneRidgeRunner said:
It isn't about the speed, want speed, buy a snowmobile. They're geared low, you end up going about 2/3 what your speedometer says you're going.

You may check the newer tracks to see since I know my brothers older tracks on his can am would only go around 30 mph! Since recently upgrading he can now go 50 or so with no problem! There is also a company that makes a speedometer correction that can be calibrated for your tracks or back to tires with a simple reprogram.

hawkbill · Feb 11, 2023

A Ski Doo Skandic wide track is the only utility machine I would buy, they make a fan cooled and a liquid cooled. I have towed my hounds many miles, then put thousands of miles tracking Wolves. The four wheelers with tracks are junk if it’s deep and steep

elkassassin · Feb 11, 2023

SWEET!

Where Were you hunting Bulls That Late In The Year hawk?

hawkbill said:
A Ski Doo Skandic wide track is the only utility machine I would buy, they make a fan cooled and a liquid cooled. I have towed my hounds many miles, then put thousands of miles tracking Wolves. The four wheelers with tracks are junk if it’s deep and steepView attachment 102749

hawkbill · Feb 11, 2023

elkassassin said:
SWEET!

Where Were you hunting Bulls That Late In The Year hawk?

That was the harsh winter of 2018. I was hunting Wolves and the snow was deep, the big mature Bulls were stuck in high mountain creek beds where starvation first starts to set in and then when the Wolves can start walking on top of the snow they make quick work of taking them down. I picked up nine nice racks that winter. One day hiking out at 1:00 in the afternoon I watched a pack of Wolves take down this Bull who had just lost his antlers, they were about 1700 yds from me when I took the photo.

elkassassin · Feb 11, 2023

DAMN!

We Were Hunting The Winter of 92-93 Here & The Coyotes Were Doing The Same Thing To Our Deer Herd!

You'd Of Had To Been There To See The Damage!

I Tried To Get A Few Different Game Officials To At Least Ride Back In Where We Were Hunting But Nobody Wanted Any Part of it!

SAD!

elkassassin · Feb 11, 2023

The Snow Was Way Deep That Winter With a Crust On Top!

Deer Would Fall Through & The Coyotes Run On Top!

They Didn't Even Have To Run!

They Could Walk Right up to Them & Start Gnawin on the Deer!

elkassassin · Feb 11, 2023

Hey LIK2HNT!

I'd Take hawkbills advice on the SKANDIC!

For The Machine Pulling The Dogs & Dog Box!

The Friend We Hunted With Had One (SKI-DOO WIDETRACK!)

They Were Called SKANDICS Back When We Were Hunting as Well!

I'll Bet They Are Way Better Now!

My Friend Liked His Because It Had Reverse!

The Thing I Do Remember Is You Don't Wanna Get That Big Heavy SOB Stuck,When That Machine Is Stuck You Best Have Some Buddies To Help You Get It UN-STUCK!

Then I'd Get one Or two Lighter Machines for Cuttin Tracks!

Doesn't Hurt To Have An Extra Sled around!

elkassassin · Feb 11, 2023

Here You Go LIK2HNT:

Just Don't Tell Ms LIK2HNT!

Grouse Legs · Feb 11, 2023

elkassassin said:
Here You Go LIK2HNT:

Just Don't Tell Ms LIK2HNT!

2025 Ski-Doo Skandic - Sport Utility snowmobile

The Ski-doo Skandic snowmobile is the standard for capable, reliable deep snow utility sled that can take on tough tasks in remote wintery locations

www.ski-doo.com

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elkassassin · Feb 11, 2023

Sorry Grouse Legs!

I Missed That You Already Posted It!

KD0 · Feb 11, 2023

Try Yamaha and thank me later .

Gator · Feb 11, 2023

Hard snow flat fields time to go coyote hunting for sure.
got have some speed to run them down.

LIK2HNT · Feb 11, 2023

Gator said:
Hard snow flat fields time to go coyote hunting for sure.
got have some speed to run them down.

Speed is for the young that heal fast. 40 plus years ago I had friends get hurt going to fast on sleds. Hard to see the terrain in front of you an a sunny day from the glare. Slow and steady now. Takes A LOT longer to heal now a days. ?

Gator · Feb 11, 2023

Yep still have a scar or 2 from those wild rides and jumps we did when we was bulletproof. My first machine was a John Deere X8 if I remember correctly early 70's

LIK2HNT · Feb 11, 2023

elkassassin said:
Here You Go LIK2HNT:

Just Don't Tell Ms LIK2HNT!

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As long as it’s a 2 seater so she can come along when she wants, I could survive the purchase when she finds out. With a one seater I would most likely be in the dog house for awhile. ??

Gator · Feb 11, 2023

Snowmobile OIL is what we called Peppermint Scnapps.

MrShane · Feb 11, 2023

elkassassin said:
So MrShane?

Is Your GRIZZLY a 660?

And How Fast Will It Reasonably go Without Winding It Tight?

It is the fuel injected 700.
About 20 mph is comfortable but I travel even slower than that usually or shanty gets beat around pretty good.
If I remember correctly 28 was top speed.
Rode a snowmobile for many years but I only have one hand and as I get older riding snowmobiles with one hand really wears me out fast.
This Grizzly lets me putt around and just enjoy being out.
I put a Speed Healer on it to keep my speedo and odometer correct.
Without a Speed Healer your miles clock up twice as fast.

smokepolejohnson · Feb 11, 2023

Yamahas longevity isn’t bad if you plan on keeping a snow machine for the long haul. Still wish I had my old John Deere liquid fire for those dry ground, partially melted off spring lion hunts

Iddogguy · Feb 11, 2023

Who knew, Meat Loaf rode a Yamaha!!!!!!

elkassassin · Feb 11, 2023

My Friend had a Sled like that one SPJ!

340 Enticer!

If You Didn't Have a Can of Ether you were NOT Gonna Start That SOB!

smokepolejohnson said:
Yamahas longevity isn’t bad if you plan on keeping a snow machine for the long haul. Still wish I had my old John Deere liquid fire for those dry ground, partially melted off spring lion hunts

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Gadjet · Feb 12, 2023

Tracks can be a little rough on equipment. Just grenaded the transmission in a Polaris ranger a couple weeks ago. Expensive problem to have. Power steering seems to work fine. I’ll be taking a hard look at Can Am in the future.

elkassassin · Feb 12, 2023

Make Sure you Get Yourself 3 Dozen Mouse Traps with The CAN-AM!

Gadjet said:
Tracks can be a little rough on equipment. Just grenaded the transmission in a Polaris ranger a couple weeks ago. Expensive problem to have. Power steering seems to work fine. I’ll be taking a hard look at Can Am in the future.