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2lumpy said:
Blue is that camp sight just a few hundred yards east of the lava slide that blocked the river eons ago?
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You’re referring to Lava Falls. We never camped that close to it. You do want to run Lava in the morning though, so you have the rest of the day to gather things up and put them back together in case a boat went over.

Lava Falls is sorta the crescendo of the rapids (although we always managed to flip a boat in the other ones), and you look forward to it for days. You can hear it coming a long ways away. :)
Here’s one of our rafts in Lava, and one of the way earlier pics in this thread is me in Lava.

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Looks like a great time blue. Never been down on the river there but I’ve watched groups run it from the top. Takes 10 minutes for your voice to get the river and back. It’s a deep hole, for sure.
 
2lumpy said:
Looks like a great time blue. Never been down on the river there but I’ve watched groups run it from the top. Takes 10 minutes for your voice to get the river and back. It’s a deep hole, for sure.
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You should go. You won’t regret it; you’ll probably consider it one of the greatest gifts you ever gave yourself ;)
 
Bluehair said:
You should go. You won’t regret it; you’ll probably consider it one of the greatest gifts you ever gave yourself ;)
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A few years ago a small group of us rented flat bottom jet boats at Marble Canyon/Lees Ferry and run up to the Glen Canyon Dam and back. While not the same experience as running the rapids on those inner tubes, it was a spectacular day and I’d really like to take more of my family down to see it.

Regarding rapids on the Colorado, back in the late spring of 1983, we were down trying to fish at Hite. The wind was howling all weekend so it was too rough to fish. We here playing crib in the camp trailer, hoping the wind would stop. About midday, 3 of those huge blue rafts floated out of the river and beached in front of the trailer. I’m guessing 6 or 8 people boiled out of each of the rafts, fell to there knees, some face down in the sand, weeping, wailing and caring on like they’d just been freed from a demonic prison. After some semblance took over, the commercial raft people told is they’d just been four days on the river, in the worst high water conditions any of them had ever experienced. They said coming through Cataract they near killed everybody. Apparent, the floods of 83 had peaked about the time they were in the worst section. They said the rapids were folding those big rafts in half, end to end, compressing them, then shooting out of the water, springing open and catapulting everyone and every thing in the raft 20 feet in the air and into the river. Apparently, it happened numerous times. At any rate the entire group, raft specialists and all were nearly in a state of shock. Never seen anything quite like it before or sense. Every time I think about floating a river, in a raft, that mental image comes back and I go lay down on the couch..,…. until the urge goes away.
 
2lumpy said:
A few years ago a small group of us rented flat bottom jet boats at Marble Canyon/Lees Ferry and run up to the Glen Canyon Dam and back. While not the same experience as running the rapids on those inner tubes, it was a spectacular day and I’d really like to take more of my family down to see it.

Regarding rapids on the Colorado, back in the late spring of 1983, we were down trying to fish at Hite. The wind was howling all weekend so it was too rough to fish. We here playing crib in the camp trailer, hoping the wind would stop. About midday, 3 of those huge blue rafts floated out of the river and beached in front of the trailer. I’m guessing 6 or 8 people boiled out of each of the rafts, fell to there knees, some face down in the sand, weeping, wailing and caring on like they’d just been freed from a demonic prison. After some semblance took over, the commercial raft people told is they’d just been four days on the river, in the worst high water conditions any of them had ever experienced. They said coming through Cataract they near killed everybody. Apparent, the floods of 83 had peaked about the time they were in the worst section. They said the rapids were folding those big rafts in half, end to end, compressing them, then shooting out of the water, springing open and catapulting everyone and every thing in the raft 20 feet in the air and into the river. Apparently, it happened numerous times. At any rate the entire group, raft specialists and all were nearly in a state of shock. Never seen anything quite like it before or sense. Every time I think about floating a river, in a raft, that mental image comes back and I go lay down on the couch..,…. until the urge goes away.
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I’ve never run Cataract, but it’s on my list. Especially since it’s only a couple of hours away. Of course in my pampered condition, it wouldn’t be a diy thing like the old days.

If memory serves, ‘83 was the year they had to dump like 90,000 cfs out of Glen Canyon. It blew out the spillways. My trips were ‘81 and ‘87, and it was perfect.:)

My uncle (he was the river rat) was on the river at the time. All of the rapids were different and most of the campsite’s were under water.

Found it on Wiki.
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Risks to the Glen Canyon Dam - Wikipedia

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Bluehair said:
I’ve never run Cataract, but it’s on my list. Especially since it’s only a couple of hours away. Of course in my pampered condition, it wouldn’t be a diy thing like the old days.

If memory serves, ‘83 was the year they had to dump like 90,000 cfs out of Glen Canyon. It blew out the spillways. My trips were ‘81 and ‘87, and it was perfect.:)

My uncle (he was the river rat) was on the river at the time. All of the rapids were different and most of the campsite’s were under water.

Found it on Wiki.
en.wikipedia.org

Risks to the Glen Canyon Dam - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
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Pretty crazy to go from maximum water depth to water too low to generate power…….. by July of this year.

I’d chalk this up to some crazy environment propaganda but I know different, it will be too low to generate power by any day this summer. They are praying for moisture but they already know it isn’t going to be enough, regardless of how much we get, even without the left using a water shortage crisis to shut it down.

No idea who these folks are but here’s a blurb.
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Lake Powell water level is so low that America's second-biggest dam may become unable to generate electricity in July 2022 - Strange Sounds

Lake Powell water level is so low that America's second-biggest dam may become unable to generate electricity as fast as July 2022.
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Looking up the Little Colorado. Interesting trivia: it was illegal to fish within 1/2 mile of the confluence to protect the Colo Pikeminnow (Squawfish still when I went down). I think I have that right.
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grizzly said:
I have old 35mm pics of a boa like that getting attacked and eaten by another snake in Mexico. I need to dig those pics out. The fight took like an hour, it was crazy.
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We were walking up a river in the Osa peninsula to rappel off a water fall. Saw the boa, a coral snake, and a fer-de-lance....Place was slithering!
 

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