He answers that question. Obviously SlightlyIncoherent isn’t watching/comprehending very well. Cody has a number of large ranches which are acting as the buffer zones and where the elk have congregated which make them essentially inaccessible.
And the guy in the video too...
Yes SlightlyIncoherent doesn’t pay attention well.
Should stick to building rifles....
Randy is certainly no road hunter. Kinda hard to road hunt anyways in that North Fork area as there aren’t many roads there. His two Bighorn Sheep rams are amazing. He also has a nice set of pack mules. Most of those areas are now limited quota for elk. Was your father’s hunt a limited quota area? His 55+ years of watching the elk and their downhill demise since wolf reintroduction 20+ years ago are a broad time spectrum of experience. I cant comment on the deer herd there but I do see G&F has cut back the November hunting when most of those bucks used to be killed and NR licenses have been slashed, not a good sign.
There are a few limited quota areas for deer in that Cody country, they have shortened the seasons, slashed NR licenses and the bottom riparian areas are mostly all private. Buffer zones are what is saving what they have.
slow hat reader huh?
What’s a CCS doing in the Wyoming forum ??
same reason an ACS is....
I’m not familiar with that acronym ?
That should be a great hunt. This video was more in general about the North Fork area. Randy actually discusses how well the elk are doing East of highway 120 which is in the Wolf Predator Zone and how the elk now remain on many of the big private ranches year round. The cow/calf ratios in area 54 East of 120 have recently been some of the highest ever documented in the state. The elk are booming there and creating a new and larger year round resident herd but the migratory herd coming from the Park is greatly diminished. Randy blames the wolves which is not the whole picture but he does have 50+ years of experience watching those elk. You will have a great hunt.
Call me about 54-1. I drew it in 2016 with max points. I've helped 2 other NR's with info, and both ended up tagging 330-340" bulls off my X marks. I don't think things change too much in 54-1 from year to year. A good south facing slope on a 0 degree evening, or a draw that always holds bulls, or a classic wind blown ridge is likely not changing from year to year in terms of topography. Get (10-15) X-marks on a map, judge the weather and conditions, and don't cause a stampede with uber aggressive tactics.
“Hunt the edges of the buffer zones. You’ll thank me later..”
Yea 52+ years of gunsmithing and hunting near Cody can cause that. Especially guys who harvest 2 B&C Bighorn Sheep and a 384 B&C bull Elk and 42,000 YT subscribers are certainly full of s###.
Keep watching many of those videos with 42,000 subscribers and maybe you will learn many new things.
Founder normally uses chest waders but many just prefer tiptoeing through the lilly dew meadows.
Now we know who is full of S###.
Who scored his elk and sheep...the ram he had pictures of in the video didn't look B&C size to me...but I've not held but maybe 40-50 B&C rams in my hands including 4 that gross score 200ish.Yea 52+ years of gunsmithing and hunting near Cody can cause that. Especially guys who harvest 2 B&C Bighorn Sheep and a 384 B&C bull Elk and 42,000 YT subscribers are certainly full of s###.
Next time you are near Cody stop in at his shop and have a look yourself. He was personal friends with Les Bowman one of the engineers behind the 7mm development. He is also a neighbour and gunsmith for Jim Zumbo formerly from Outdoor Life magazine. Les Bowman who famously guided for years in the Thorofare and South Fork area and Les introduced Randy to Col. Townsend Whelen and the late Abdorezha Pahlavi, brother of the Shah of Iran. http://randyscustomrifles.com/about-randy/
I won’t tell anyone you deep down really like it.
Apparently you missed the part about him being Zumbo's neighbor.
He advocates for more Aggressive wolf management which would get the wolf population back to where it was laid out and sold to us as Wyoming residents ie 10 breeding pair and 100 wolves. Even by the conservative Wyoming Game and Fish estimates there are now 327 wolves and a small quota in the North Fork of only 7 annual wolf licenses when there are known to be three breeding packs and over 40 wolves just in that area. Wolves are not the only thing inhibiting the Cody elk herd but the migratory elk population is way down in those Cody areas. Jim Zumbo also agrees with his gunsmith Randy and wants more aggressive wolf management.
SlightlyIncoherent, You wouldn’t understand that research anyway.
Right on Buzz, you’re such a badass.
Glad you find it comical. I find it truly Sad. It was great elk hunting I agree. This is why it is so sad it has been allowed to be so mismanaged and overrun with so many wolves. He advocates for more Aggressive wolf management which would get the wolf population back to where it was laid out and sold to us as Wyoming residents ie 10 breeding pair and 100 wolves. Even by the conservative Wyoming Game and Fish estimates there are now 327 wolves and the small quota currently in the North Fork of only 7 annual wolf harvest when there are known to be three breeding packs and over 40 wolves just in that area. Wolves are not the only thing inhibiting the Cody elk herd but the migratory elk population is way down in those Cody areas. Many of these areas are now Limited Quota due to such low elk numbers.
The main problem is there has been a redistribution of elk, which has resulted in some areas with hugely struggling and unsustainable elk herds, while other areas have healthy elk herds with above objective populations. This is why many of those areas have gone to limited quota. I don’t fully agree with all of Randy’s comments but he does have 52+ years of hunting those areas.
Just to clarify this is your opinion? I didn’t see you cite your source.
It’s not just my opinion, it is well documented how predators have redistributed the elk herds.
wyocoopunit.org
Many of those areas are now Limited quota thus putting even more pressure on the few remaining General areas. Randy is mostly complaining about the North Fork area which once held great General elk hunting but now the elk have redistributed to many of the larger private ranches farther East making them mostly inaccessible and the lower numbers of elk now are in Limited Quota areas. You wouldn’t understand it anyways SlightlyIncoherent.
Randy has exposed the Moose slaughter by the wolves. Note the introduction of wolves in 1995. Not all of this is due to wolves but certainly when most of the radio collared moose were found dead by wolf kills it certainly corroborated what was going on. When was the last time anyone posted Moose pictures from Yellowstone National Park, they are nearly extinct there.
The drop in 2011 was a change in the Game and Fish modelling and counting processes. What we know is Grizzly bears are also huge killers of moose and elk calves. In Minnesota there are no grizzly bears so administrators can’t blame the Wolf depredation on the Grizzly. The Bighorns and the Snowy Mt. ranges where wolves are not present or very rare have not shown the severe downward trends. Hmmmmm.........?????
Again..........Displaying your IGNORANCE SlightlyIncoherent. Last I checked All Wyoming moose permits are Limited Quota. LMFAO.
What does limited quota have to do with buffer zones?Again..........Displaying your IGNORANCE SlightlyIncoherent. Last I checked All Wyoming moose permits are Limited Quota. LMFAO.
They create them LMFAO. But you don’t even understand it SlightlyIncoherent. When an area goes from General License to Limited Quota it’s like creating a substantial Buffer Zone area for the game animals as it severely limits harvest and human presence compared to a General Licenses type hunting situation. I’m sure you still don’t get it so why even try and grasp an insurmountable task for yourself.
I agree 100% The last few yrs I have spent a lot of time south of Cody and it is by far the best elk hunting in the state.
You obviously know little of ranching and dealing with wolves. Most of these big ranches are far to the East and outside the controlled hunting areas and located in the Predator zone. The ranchers hire full time hunters and range riders to keep the wolves away from their cattle, haze them off or kill them. Many of the elk now no longer stay or winter in the North Fork of the Shoshone as far too many wolves. The elk hunting has dwindled downhill and is all Limited Quota now due to the high wolf numbers. Randy’s complaint is they don’t set the wolf quota anywhere near high enough. Yes the elk are doing well overall statewide but in many areas too many elk and elk herds way over objective are impacting mule deer herds. If you go to Randy’s gunsmith shop you can see the wolf hide he has hanging. He does his part and tries to advocate for higher quotas.
You can’t hunt there on a General license anymore when you could for the 55+ years he hunted there, that is all gone. You obviously are Ignorant of the local area and the issues affecting the elk herd. He wants the Wyoming Game and Fish to put more effort into decreasing wolves, so far they keep the wolf quotas far too low with wolf numbers far above the 10 packs and 100 wolves we were promised upon introduction. Your Ignorance is apparent, perhaps you should rewatch it again LMAO.
You can’t hunt there on a General license anymore when you could for the 55+ years he hunted there, that is all gone. You obviously are Ignorant of the local area and the issues affecting the elk herd. He wants the Wyoming Game and Fish to put more effort into decreasing wolves, so far they keep the wolf quotas far too low with wolf numbers far above the 10 packs and 100 wolves we were promised upon introduction. Your Ignorance is apparent, perhaps you should rewatch it again LMAO.
What is painful is responding to your Gormless posts. Actually the elk hunting is still very poor in the North Fork and very, very limited quota. I think area 55 gets something like 50 licenses and area 53 the same. Those areas in the 1980s were some of the most productive elk areas in Wyoming on General license and hundreds harvested in each area. Yes he does advocate for much more wolf hunting and most agree the area has far too many wolves with 4 packs alone using the North Fork area when we were promised only 10 packs statewide. He is upset with Fish and Game as he asked Brian Nesvik what he was doing to improve the elk hunting around Cody on the North Fork as elk hunting was so poor. Nesvik’s response was less than adequate and said, we still have hunting in Wyoming. The issue is they are far too conservative on wolf quotas in that part of Wyoming. Elk are doing great overall in Wyoming but other states like Idaho and Montana have finally realized just how destructive they are on elk herds are now finally are pushing back hard. The Governor of Idaho wants to reduce wolf numbers by 90%.
www.npr.org
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