npaden
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Well, I think this may have been the worst luck I've had in the last 10 years of applying for tags. Between my son and myself, we applied for 74 tags in 9 different states. The only tag either of us drew was the Utah Youth Any Bull Tag.
This tag is a very hard draw for Utah residents, but really not that tough of a draw for nonresidents. It runs around 20% drawing odds the last several years and with the 50% price increase next year the odds may even get better.
I wasn't even sure that we wanted to apply for the Youth Any Bull Tag. It has a reputation of being a fairly tough hunt and for sure is not a trophy hunt like the Limited Entry Tags are in Utah. While you are applying you don't get to build points like you would if you were applying for an LE tag. Last year I thought my son was too young to do one of these hunts, but even with the pretty good odds for a nonresident there is still luck involved to draw one in the short window you can apply for it, so I went ahead and applied him this year and of course he drew in his first year applying.
Looking at the harvest stats for the last several years, Ogden, East Canyon, Chalk Creek and Kamas have about the best average success rate but looking at the maps it sure looks like a lot of private land to have to deal with. I'm guessing that those high success rates are inflated with quite a bit of private success numbers. Right now the plan is to focus on the South Slope and see if I can find some decent sign and maybe even a few actual elk.
I just booked the plane tickets for our scouting trip next month. I've been spending time searching the interwebs and looking on google earth and am hoping for a great hunting experience for my son coming up in September.
Right now I just have 2 days of actual scouting planned. Flying in on the 12th, scouting the 13th and 14th then flying home on the 15th. That is before the archery hunt starts so I shouldn't be messing anyone up that is actually hunting. I think it will be more of a checking out the roads and potential camping spots than really looking for elk, although I hope to at least find some fresh sign.
We upgraded him to a Christensen Arms Mesa in 7mm-08 and have been spending some time practicing with it. We are also spending time with the 10/22 just trying to get better at quickly acquiring targets and shooting from different positions.
We are planning on pulling our camper trailer up in September and hopefully hear some bugles and at least see some elk. He really wants to shoot a bull but I told him he won't be able to be too choosy.
I wasn't really planning on doing an adventure thread with the one out of state tag that we have but I have been reading a lot about the Utah Youth Any Bull tag and thought I would go through the process of documenting our hunt. There is a very good chance that this will end up without an elk making the trip home with us, but there is no chance that it will be unsuccessful as it will be my son's first elk hunt. Looking forward to some quality time in the woods with him and if we can get some up close and personal bugles ripping through the trees that will be the icing on the cake.
This tag is a very hard draw for Utah residents, but really not that tough of a draw for nonresidents. It runs around 20% drawing odds the last several years and with the 50% price increase next year the odds may even get better.
I wasn't even sure that we wanted to apply for the Youth Any Bull Tag. It has a reputation of being a fairly tough hunt and for sure is not a trophy hunt like the Limited Entry Tags are in Utah. While you are applying you don't get to build points like you would if you were applying for an LE tag. Last year I thought my son was too young to do one of these hunts, but even with the pretty good odds for a nonresident there is still luck involved to draw one in the short window you can apply for it, so I went ahead and applied him this year and of course he drew in his first year applying.
Looking at the harvest stats for the last several years, Ogden, East Canyon, Chalk Creek and Kamas have about the best average success rate but looking at the maps it sure looks like a lot of private land to have to deal with. I'm guessing that those high success rates are inflated with quite a bit of private success numbers. Right now the plan is to focus on the South Slope and see if I can find some decent sign and maybe even a few actual elk.
I just booked the plane tickets for our scouting trip next month. I've been spending time searching the interwebs and looking on google earth and am hoping for a great hunting experience for my son coming up in September.
Right now I just have 2 days of actual scouting planned. Flying in on the 12th, scouting the 13th and 14th then flying home on the 15th. That is before the archery hunt starts so I shouldn't be messing anyone up that is actually hunting. I think it will be more of a checking out the roads and potential camping spots than really looking for elk, although I hope to at least find some fresh sign.
We upgraded him to a Christensen Arms Mesa in 7mm-08 and have been spending some time practicing with it. We are also spending time with the 10/22 just trying to get better at quickly acquiring targets and shooting from different positions.
We are planning on pulling our camper trailer up in September and hopefully hear some bugles and at least see some elk. He really wants to shoot a bull but I told him he won't be able to be too choosy.
I wasn't really planning on doing an adventure thread with the one out of state tag that we have but I have been reading a lot about the Utah Youth Any Bull tag and thought I would go through the process of documenting our hunt. There is a very good chance that this will end up without an elk making the trip home with us, but there is no chance that it will be unsuccessful as it will be my son's first elk hunt. Looking forward to some quality time in the woods with him and if we can get some up close and personal bugles ripping through the trees that will be the icing on the cake.