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I have only looked at a few units so far, but the point creep is insane. Some units went from 2 required in 2023 to 6 in 2024. I'm in disbelief how bad the NR point creep was. I planned for the worst and it surpassed that. I suspect many people jumped in this year because of the fear of future...

I have had great success with the Magpul bipod, although it is not the best bipod out there it has worked great for me. I shot the pronghorn in my profile pic last year with it, I rested the bipod legs on my pack to gain additional height and it was a very stable shooting platform.

I have 4 tags this year across 3 states...

They got winter killed really bad in the 22-23 winter. The genetics are there for big deer, but the population and age class took a massive hit. It will take several years to recover. I'd have low expectations.

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If there were 1 million Ferraris made each year, would they still cost $300k each?

This is no different than anything else in society....supply and demand. There is a reason a Ferrari is $300k+ and not $50k. Everything in life is a rich man's game if you really think about it. Though it is unfortunate that people are slowly being priced or cutout of hunting opportunities...

Yeah, I'm seeing the same thing for my dedicated as well. But no price increase for anything else. So I guess that means probably not drawn?

That is a great problem to have. I'm in the same situation this year, I drew a second archery NM elk tag. I put in for the late archery so I don't draw two conflicting hunts.

With it being the second year of the new Elk management plan, I'm curious to see what seasons people are putting in for LE Elk this year. I predict there will be many changes in odds for weapon/season types.

The Three most in important factors determining antler size are 1. Age 2. Genetics 3. Nutrition I have seen a 5 year old buck score 220"+ then a severe drought/ winter hits and the buck finishes in the 190" range as a 6 year old buck. Even bucks with excellent genetics can and will grow big...

I'm no expert on antler growth, but I glassed many winter range areas across the wasatch front and the animals appeared to be very healthy. Based on current snow pack levels statewide and a mild winter on winter ranges...this year should be phenomenal IMO.

They don’t come easy lol, the areas I hike get into at times have me questioning my sanity.

200" bucks are very rare on general units, but then again its a general hunting area managed for opportunity not trophy class bucks. A 170"+ buck is a great buck on a general unit, any one denying that is delusional.

They cut 1000 tags for 2024 when compared to 2023, if thats the case they are not doing a great job. Besides I find 5 170"+ bucks every year where I hunt.

Dedicated Deer Wasatch West 1pt LE ELK Beaver East Late Archery 3pt OIL Rocky Mountain Bighorn Sheep Wasatch West 1pt

Rifle or Archery?

Random is the only truly fair way. PP systems will not work over time if the demand far surpasses a sustainable supply.

As a resident of Utah I concur.

The NM results will 100% be out by or on the 24th, and as you have stated Utah is due on the 25th. You’ll know your NM results before the Utah application period closes, don’t worry.

There is nothing about this situation that is ethical, this guy clearly abused and handled the entire situation horribly. He simply should have just shot the wolf right away, instead he potentially just ruined his life and painted a terrible picture for actual hunters.

You can find mature bucks in both units.

This country is really falling apart, if this is true it will certainly ruin the entire town/area. Where are these rumors coming from?

Instead of antler point restrictions, there should be an antler width restriction, all deer with under a 14" outside antler spread cannot be killed. In my experience 99%+ of mature mule deer bucks are wider than 14" outside, I think this would be better at protecting 1-2 yo deer rather than...

A couple of bucks I was fortunate to take and a friends buck, all bucks were taken in northern Texas in the palo duro canyon.

That is his second expo tag in 3 years.

6A early archery took 11 points guaranteed draw as a nonresident in 2023. Odds for 8 points were 5.5%, the likelihood of you drawing is very small. IMO there are better units that you have a genuine chance if you do more research, also with bigger bulls.

It just depends on your approach to the hunt, the unit has good bucks spread through out the unit both high and low. If you are trying to kill one of the better deer in the unit you likely have to hike your butt off.

I'd highly consider looking at the Oak Creek. It has consistently been producing the best deer out of the LE units in Utah the past several years. You have the points to draw the rifle hunt. A decent mixture of road access and hiking areas. Pretty much the entire unit is under 9000ft...

Sadly Region G will likely never rebound to how it was in it prime! Region G will have still have its ups and downs in terms of deer numbers and quality depending on winters and moisture. But the fact that there are unlimited resident deer tags is the #1 issue, more residents like others have...

What does a hunting license have to do with a shed? This is all NONSENSE!

At least since you are already building points you are working for a hunting opportunity vs just 1 random lottery.

Expo tag is $5 per ticket

$100 for 0.2% chance...yikes

Unfortunately it’s just supply and demand, the demand for high quality elk hunts is higher than ever because of increased hunting interest, social media, and youtube. This brings more people into playing a broken system in terms of points. Even if they removed any point system and made it a...

One of the issues here is the "I need to draw this LE tag to kill a 300+ bull", yes its easier to kill big bulls in areas with higher age class and lower hunting pressure. But there are 300"+ bulls on almost every unit that holds elk in the west. There are people that kill big bulls nearly every...

Did you end up going on your hunt? I heard that the pronghorn there took a beating last winter, and some left the unit.

This study was done done using rats, but I believe many of the finding and outcomes apply to human living in congested areas. The kind of reckless and delusional thinking that people have living in cities is mind boggling, only the people imo that spend enough time in nature by themselves...